"That asshole Trudeau..."

[PimpedOutPete]

47 minutes ago, TedsofBeverlyHills said:

It is so so simple that this is laughable, Tim Pool is no one special, neither is anyone else he is just one man like others with an opinion who talks about subject matter that the corrupt and extremely bias media will not cover. Anyone who has witness the incredible failure of MSNBC and CNN ability to omit stories of importance and or lies and make up shit to further their political narrative realizes why citizens are seeking other forms to get their news. Incredibly, even to an idiot, this makes sense. This is why we have the 100's of successful Alt. media platforms. CNN, and the likes of MSNBC etc., can no longer control the narrative as they have been able in the past.  And this is why they are attempting to censor, cancel and or control what the general public can learn.

This also, is very obvious, even a simpleton could grasp that in attacking the individual who has an opinion or point is about as weak as it gets. We are not talking about actions, we are talking about  quite simply one's thoughts, positions and opinion's just like we all have.  If you disagree or dislike or like someone's opinion, tell us what and why.

It also appears that, the left now believes that the 2nd amendment is not absolute anymore. And what they call hate speech is now what they disagree with. Joe Biden has stated several times on national news recently that the 1st and 2nd amendments are not really absolute anymore. These statements are something we have never heard before from a president. It is almost impossible to believe a president could ever make that statement,

Without free speech and equal accountability, the America we love and know will cease to exist.

I have stated numerous times how I felt about Tim Pools statement on gun rights in respect to this nation and where he is very much out of touch with the thoughts and passions on this nation.  He is in the huge minority in this nation and by all accounts in the minority in his own. It’s difficult to argue what the people want.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

As for the rest and Biden statement, best to take up in the political forum where it belongs. You are admin Ted, you know that.

[PimpedOutPete]

Oh, I got my grandson to paste this. He needs to practice is cutting and pasting skills, plus the fact he likes Buzz (lol).

 

[TedsofBeverlyHills]

13 hours ago, PimpedOutPete said:

I have stated numerous times how I felt about Tim Pools statement on gun rights in respect to this nation and where he is very much out of touch with the thoughts and passions on this nation.  He is in the huge minority in this nation and by all accounts in the minority in his own. It’s difficult to argue what the people want.

 

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Your above statement is fine, but it seems what you don't want to hear and continue to not address Is it the right to demise/ attack the person if one disagrees.  And you are head admin, and you know better, and this post is largely a political post in the first place. But thanks for the personal attack, I know you mean well, my friend.

Edited June 12, 2022 by TedsofBeverlyHills

[TedsofBeverlyHills]

2 minutes ago, PimpedOutPete said:

Oh, I got my grandson to paste this. He needs to practice is cutting and pasting skills, plus the fact he likes Buzz (lol).

 

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You're right, we really need to stop people from seeing these kind things that we disagree with, we must control thoughts and opinions of our citizens.

Here's another crazy thought, tell us how you think and what you disagree with a Meme.

Here is why I think your posted Meme is wrong because it has labeled all Memes stupid. Of course, there are some that are stupid and some that are eye-opening for those without a close mind.

See Peter, that wasn't so hard, was it?

[PimpedOutPete]

2 hours ago, TedsofBeverlyHills said:

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Your above statement is fine, but it seems what you don't want to hear and continue to not address Is it the right to demise/ attack the person if one disagrees.  And you are headman, and you know better, and this post is largely a political post in the first place. But thanks for the personal attack, I know you mean well, my friend.

No personal attack was suggested or intended. Everyone is free to their opinion regardless where they stand, no questions asked.

As for the content? We created a political forum for everyone to speak their mind and not pollute the forums. It would be best we respect those simples rules. If you have a concern, please take it up with Rugger or the seniors… thank you   

[jointz]

He takes out handguns away but they sell toy hand guns that kids use to play. How fair is that. If my kids play with guns I should be able to play with a real one... Injustice...

[PimpedOutPete]

2 hours ago, TedsofBeverlyHills said:

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You're right, we really need to stop people from seeing these kind things that we disagree with, we must control thoughts and opinions of our citizens.

Here's another crazy thought, tell us how you think and what you disagree with a Meme.

Here is why I think your posted Meme is wrong because it has labeled all Memes stupid. Of course, there are some that are stupid and some that are eye-opening for those without a close mind.

See Peter, that wasn't so hard, was it?

Ted, are you ok? Post what you want! DO WHATEVER YOU WANT! I am not going to stop you or prevent you, it’s a free word. If You don’t want me to question anything and peg it as a “personal attack” on some random media personality then I won’t bother.

I have no concerns either way. The “ Trudeau is an asshole” is all yours.

Note: Harry, Trudeau is still an asshole… lol shout to you my friend lol  

[TedsofBeverlyHills]

21 minutes ago, PimpedOutPete said:

No personal attack was suggested or intended. Everyone is free to their opinion regardless where they stand, no questions asked.

As for the content? We created a political forum for everyone to speak their mind and not pollute the forums. It would be best we respect those simples rules. If you have a concern, please take it up with Rugger or the seniors… thank you   

And that includes you too... If you have a concern, please take it up with Rugger or the seniors… Thank you my friend

Edited June 11, 2022 by TedsofBeverlyHills

[TedsofBeverlyHills]

9 hours ago, PimpedOutPete said:

Ted, are you ok? Post what you want! DO WHATEVER YOU WANT! I am not going to stop you or prevent you, it’s a free word. If You don’t want me to question anything and peg it as a “personal attack” on some random media personality then I won’t bother.

I have no concerns either way. The “ Trudeau is an asshole” is all yours.

Note: Harry, Trudeau is still an asshole… lol shout to you my friend lol  

Peter, I only have one issue with you PERIOD, and you can say and do what you want. But I will, at every opportunity and time now and in the future, Challenge you when you quite simply attack the messenger rather than the message. Like I have in the past four years if not longer, and you can go back and review for yourself that I have.

Of course, you can continue this tactic or whatever, I can't stop you and I respect and disagree some, with all your opinions and posts, but really enjoy a lively debate with you my friend, but I really despise when a post attacks the messenger's character just because one has different opinions. I am sorry, I'm unwilling to compromise on this very fine point, no matter how much it angers you or anyone else. So if you continue, that's your right and expect a lively challenge, but no matter, on my part our friendship will not be compromised you are somebody that I care for and who I can disagree with.

Edited June 12, 2022 by TedsofBeverlyHills

[jointz]

Looks like it's getting Chris Rock/will Smith heated in here..

[TedsofBeverlyHills]

7 hours ago, jointz said:

Looks like it's getting Chris Rock/will Smith heated in here..

Looks that way, but Pete and I have been going at it for a long time and are friends when it comes to politics, both of us pull no punches and can be quite tough on each other. We are both passionate about our views and agree with more than one would think if reading our posts. We are just trying to increase our clicks and viewership, lol, not sure if it is working. Furthermore, we should not be afraid to speak up, how can we learn if there is no discussion and  or dialog. Argue, but with respect, in the end.

[lTplkey336]

17 hours ago, jointz said:

He takes out handguns away but they sell toy hand guns that kids use to play. How fair is that. If my kids play with guns I should be able to play with a real one... Injustice...

You get to play COD!

[jointz]

Very true key!!

[KaptCrunch]

no worries  Fella's  &  Gal's

 

in the news yesterday

Police locate 2 people, vehicles of interest after Parliament Hill evacuation

(ottawa)

for Pete and Ted were having a gun talk an got heated, bystanders got worried and called RCMP

an they closed parliment hill to protect PM 

nothing to see  move on  making fun of this gun issue for you can't fix greedy stupid people (law makers)

Edited June 12, 2022 by KaptCrunch
we got God on our side .........LoL for Pete's sake and Ted can do it with the pen now Hahahaha

[Labob]

On 6/11/2022 at 4:54 PM, jointz said:

He takes out handguns away but they sell toy hand guns that kids use to play. How fair is that. If my kids play with guns I should be able to play with a real one... Injustice...

You do not play with real handguns. 

[major-mark63]

HAHA do you believe Trudeau had catch covid again !!!!!... some of a payback..

[KaptCrunch]

? press for checking credability MM

[jointz]

1 hour ago, major-mark63 said:

HAHA do you believe Trudeau had catch covid again !!!!!... some of a payback..

That's his karma.. might leave everlasting effects this time

[YACCster]

On 6/13/2022 at 8:48 AM, Labob said:

You do not play with real handguns. 

Do not 'play' with any real guns. Also do not 'play' with real vehicles or real drugs or etc.

Having said that I can show you awesome folks having fun with all of the above.

[HarryWeezer]

This has been a great conversation. Time for some further thoughts.
The core problem with gun violence in the U.S. has little to do with access to weapons. It has little to do with crazy people. We've always had guns and crazy people. What's changed is the nature of society and more than anything else, what's changed the nature of society is hate.
When I grew up in the peaceful, safe 1950s, I hated the kid who always bullied me on the way to school. I didn't hate anyone else; had no reason to. My father also hated somebody, the president. When Kennedy was assinated, my father said, "There, that son-of-a-bitch got what he deserved." It was the first time I ever heard my father swear. But he hated Kennedy for getting us involved in Vietnam. I don't think he hated anyone else.
Today, we hate each other with a passion and you're seeing the result. Between 1982 and 2011, a mass shooting occurred roughly once every 200 days in the U.S. However, between 2011 and 2015, that rate accelerated greatly with at least one mass shooting occurring every 64 days. You may not believe it but to date in 2022, there have been 246 mass shootings in the United States.
Why? What happened? I'm no expert in sociology but as a journalist for 52 years who continues to write editorials and columns for several newspapers, I've been watching societal evolution up close for a long time and in my view, two factors are responsible for turning us into a nation of hate: the Internet, and the dishonest and corrupt media.
Before the Internet, people, generally, found their place in society and generally, stayed there. Their sphere of influence was very limited. They associated with each other over the lunch table at work, at the club, the baseball game, the tavern, etc., and argued about pretty much everything and went back to work the next day and life went on. Then came the Internet. Suddenly, an argument over a bar table became an argument for the masses. Suddenly, people who had little knowledge of anything and didn't much care about anything except perhaps their family, had a worldside audience and, long ignored, found they could use their voice and get a reaction. Suddenly, they could bring attention to themselves and we all crave attention.
The world had always been broken down into tribes. That's why we have many different nations, many different religions, and people associated by custom, etc. But with the Internet, we started to separate into more and more tribes, tribes based, for example, on but one particular view of but one subject because there were so many of us in the room that we could always find new people to agree with us and join our tribe. 
And when we're all in the same room, you've (your tribe) got to yell to be heard. With more yelling at each other came more animosity and we began to learn to hate those in the other tribe. But how could society become so damaged, so quickly? Blame the corrupt media. Time was when the purpose of media was to expose truth. It used its free speech protections to help keep politicians honest. But the Internet changed things. Primarily, it took advertising dollars away from print and broadcast media and moved them to the Internet. To survive, media found that it had to appeal to as many tribes as it could. It moved away from writing about what it thought people should know, to what the people wanted to know. It started selling opinion, rather than news. 
The two largest tribes in the U.S. are Republicans and Democrats. Media chose sides. It wrote one side or the other to keep audience. Today, instead of supporting America, media - all of it - is a threat to the health and welfare of the nation.
Those on the left are lied to every day by leftist media, those on the right get much the same. All national media lies to keep audience. Worse, much worse, it hides truth. Their audience does not watch or listen to any other media because they don't want to hear other opinion. And so, they have not a clue what's really going on in the world. A recent example: Fox reported on the attempted assassination of Supeme Court Justice Kavanaugh. CNN, CBS, MSNBC, the New York Times - every leftist media, you name it - have said not a word about it. Because to do so undermines their political platform. Their audience is brainwashed, which is why we have such absolute bullshit going on as allowing men into women's restrooms, as telling children they can be any sex they want, and, well, let's keep to the point. Which is: Americans hate each other intensely over political issues because they don't know the truth of them and that hate has fueled increasing violence and will continue to.
One last point. Because of this hate-filled societal evolution, over just the past several years, in my opinion, all of the tremendous progress that we made on race relations in this country has been largely destroyed. Because hate breeds hate. And I have to blame the left for this. The race riots manufactured by racists and the corrupt media, and the destruction of our history which resulted, have done incredible damage. (NOTE: As an XI member, you are well aware of our prohibition on any demonstration of racism so please be careful if you touch on this topic in further discussion.)
Thanks for listening... Your thoughts are welcome!

[Labob]

Do not get me going on the media. Holy crap . The bigest one lately for me is the redidential schools. Kamloops BC . Kamloops BC The remains of 250 dead shildren found at residential school. This exploded and was just pure crap. Even to thios day all the unmarked graves found people still believe they are murdered children. Thank you media. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/tk-emlúps-te-secwépemc-215-children-former-kamloops-indian-residential-school-1.6043778

 

So everybody knows any child lost is horrible. But to say the possiblility of of discovered graves are those of dead children to sell adds on media sites is a crime in my mind. 

[MikeB]

Lets not forget the "Bad Parenting or Lack Of", that has been going on for the past few decades.  Thats a huge factor in the bad shape civilization is in.  

[RobMc]

2 hours ago, HarryWeezer said:

This has been a great conversation. Time for some further thoughts.
The core problem with gun violence in the U.S. has little to do with access to weapons. It has little to do with crazy people. We've always had guns and crazy people. What's changed is the nature of society and more than anything else, what's changed the nature of society is hate.
When I grew up in the peaceful, safe 1950s, I hated the kid who always bullied me on the way to school. I didn't hate anyone else; had no reason to. My father also hated somebody, the president. When Kennedy was assinated, my father said, "There, that son-of-a-bitch got what he deserved." It was the first time I ever heard my father swear. But he hated Kennedy for getting us involved in Vietnam. I don't think he hated anyone else.
Today, we hate each other with a passion and you're seeing the result. Between 1982 and 2011, a mass shooting occurred roughly once every 200 days in the U.S. However, between 2011 and 2015, that rate accelerated greatly with at least one mass shooting occurring every 64 days. You may not believe it but to date in 2022, there have been 246 mass shootings in the United States.
Why? What happened? I'm no expert in sociology but as a journalist for 52 years who continues to write editorials and columns for several newspapers, I've been watching societal evolution up close for a long time and in my view, two factors are responsible for turning us into a nation of hate: the Internet, and the dishonest and corrupt media.
Before the Internet, people, generally, found their place in society and generally, stayed there. Their sphere of influence was very limited. They associated with each other over the lunch table at work, at the club, the baseball game, the tavern, etc., and argued about pretty much everything and went back to work the next day and life went on. Then came the Internet. Suddenly, an argument over a bar table became an argument for the masses. Suddenly, people who had little knowledge of anything and didn't much care about anything except perhaps their family, had a worldside audience and, long ignored, found they could use their voice and get a reaction. Suddenly, they could bring attention to themselves and we all crave attention.
The world had always been broken down into tribes. That's why we have many different nations, many different religions, and people associated by custom, etc. But with the Internet, we started to separate into more and more tribes, tribes based, for example, on but one particular view of but one subject because there were so many of us in the room that we could always find new people to agree with us and join our tribe. 
And when we're all in the same room, you've (your tribe) got to yell to be heard. With more yelling at each other came more animosity and we began to learn to hate those in the other tribe. But how could society become so damaged, so quickly? Blame the corrupt media. Time was when the purpose of media was to expose truth. It used its free speech protections to help keep politicians honest. But the Internet changed things. Primarily, it took advertising dollars away from print and broadcast media and moved them to the Internet. To survive, media found that it had to appeal to as many tribes as it could. It moved away from writing about what it thought people should know, to what the people wanted to know. It started selling opinion, rather than news. 
The two largest tribes in the U.S. are Republicans and Democrats. Media chose sides. It wrote one side or the other to keep audience. Today, instead of supporting America, media - all of it - is a threat to the health and welfare of the nation.
Those on the left are lied to every day by leftist media, those on the right get much the same. All national media lies to keep audience. Worse, much worse, it hides truth. Their audience does not watch or listen to any other media because they don't want to hear other opinion. And so, they have not a clue what's really going on in the world. A recent example: Fox reported on the attempted assassination of Supeme Court Justice Kavanaugh. CNN, CBS, MSNBC, the New York Times - every leftist media, you name it - have said not a word about it. Because to do so undermines their political platform. Their audience is brainwashed, which is why we have such absolute bullshit going on as allowing men into women's restrooms, as telling children they can be any sex they want, and, well, let's keep to the point. Which is: Americans hate each other intensely over political issues because they don't know the truth of them and that hate has fueled increasing violence and will continue to.
One last point. Because of this hate-filled societal evolution, over just the past several years, in my opinion, all of the tremendous progress that we made on race relations in this country has been largely destroyed. Because hate breeds hate. And I have to blame the left for this. The race riots manufactured by racists and the corrupt media, and the destruction of our history which resulted, have done incredible damage. (NOTE: As an XI member, you are well aware of our prohibition on any demonstration of racism so please be careful if you touch on this topic in further discussion.)
Thanks for listening... Your thoughts are welcome!

Thank you Harry, I have returned especially to congratulate you on your common sense and wisdom, all the best Rob. See you up there my friend

[RobMc]

PS Pete

Remember in the political column when I pointed out I was worried by manoeuvres by the Russians on the Ukraine border and you said 'It was nothing to worry about?'

Stick to the day job mate 

[MikeB]

50 minutes ago, RobMc said:

PS Pete

Remember in the political column when I pointed out I was worried by manoeuvres by the Russians on the Ukraine border and you said 'It was nothing to worry about?'

Stick to the day job mate 

Most on the left are oblivious to "how life and society really work".  They never get it right !!!