Sun Tzu Posted October 17, 2009 Member ID: 542 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 311 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1628 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 29 Achievement Points: 11299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 3, 2014 Birthday: 03/01/1975 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Infinity Ward launching IW.NET and no more dedicated servers Posted by: John at 10/17/2009 3:26 PM More On: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Companies: Activision Blizzard Boy, first Blizzard now Infinity Ward. In this podcast, Robert Bowling confirms that PC folks won't be able to run dedicated servers anymore with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. Talk of this is about 1 hour and 42 minutes into the podcast. Great. The PC community loves to run MODs and love dedicated servers because of how fair it is and offer up better performance than listen servers. So, what's going to happen when everything moved to IW.NET? I'm getting a little agitated with how things are changing and it doesn't seem like it's for the better. I maybe wrong but removing the ability to do dedicated servers really puts a damper on things. All of Valve's games use dedicated servers with great success for example as well as many other PC games. I don't like the sound of what IW's doing but I guess we'll see after a few months how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Posted October 17, 2009 Member ID: 19 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 101 Topic Count: 318 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4444 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 2763 Achievement Points: 29399 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 02/29/1968 Device: iPhone Share Posted October 17, 2009 I will tell you how it goes...straight into the shitter for all I care. I will not pay to play.. I ain't no console gamer. Keep 2, 4, and 5 alive.. to HELL with 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sun Tzu Posted October 17, 2009 Member ID: 542 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 311 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1628 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 29 Achievement Points: 11299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 3, 2014 Birthday: 03/01/1975 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 New Modern Warfare Matchmaking Service Will "Definitely" Reshape PC Community In a webcast this morning, Robert Bowling revealed the existence of IWNet, a matchmaking service Infinity Ward will operate beginning with Modern Warfare 2. But it ends dedicated servers, and fundamentally changes the culture of the game's PC community. Bowling,the Infinity Ward community manager, said IWNet makes multiplayer moreaccessible to the PC community on Modern Warfare 2, replacing the needfor dedicated servers that are hosted and managed by players. But thehardcore PC crowd to whom he was talking, on BASHandSlash.com'swebcast, did not take the news in a completely positive light. "The silence you hear is because we've got a community right nowstructured such a way that relied on having dedicated servers," one ofBASHandSlash's moderators told Bowling. "You're definitely reshaping the way the community has been set up," another said later. "Definitely," Bowling acknowledged. Here's the score: by building up its own matchmaking service ridingshotgun with Steam, "you can get in and play with players your samerank," Bowling said. However, "You're completely reliant on IWNet andthere is no dedicated server or server list. You rely on IW Net formatchmaking and your games, but you still have your private matches." The level of control over those matches allows players to set a widearray of parameters and rules for the game. But community features suchas clans, and the high level of customization available in hosting amodded game or custom map on one's own dedicated server, face anuncertain future, if not their end outright. "Custom content, after the fact, keeps the game alive for us a lot longer," one of Bowling's questioners said. "This is the first time we've ever done something like this,obviously," Bowling said, "and I know the team has huge plans for whatIWNet develops into, and this is just the beginning. It's hard for meto speak personally towward IWNet, because that is a code heavyproject." Bowling reminded that this method of multiplayer delivery alsoallows Infinity Ward "a lot more control and structure for the PCversion. From a development standpoint, it's very good on how we canaccess and update the PC community." But before this is taken as the definitive end of modding and custommaps, Bowling clearly said "I don't have those answers yet," when askedfurther about how IWNet would affect that aspect of PC Modern Warfareplay. The entire conversation is archived here,and Bowling comes in at the 1:39:00 mark (that's one hour, 39 minutes).If this matters to you I definitely encourage listening to all of whathe has to say before reacting. But the news is not being taken well. The BASHandSlash guys referredto the vehemence in the chatlog running concurrent with the program,and terms such as "Black Saturday" and "a day of infamy" are beingthrown around. "They've made Jesus cry," is another reaction,particularly from the competitive PC community whose future also isaffected. "The server community is what's made us. It's what definedus," says Josh Pickler of planetmedalofhonor.com "IW.NET is getting the PC community to turn into consoles. You're trying to re-write our history." Bowling was steadfast in telling BASHandSlash that, for the whole of the community, IWNet will be a benefit. "It's definitely going to be a change. It's going to be a verydifferent setup than what we're previously used to in the Call of Dutyfranchise for the PC," In the long term it's going to help thecommunity. It changes the way and how we're able to update and supportthe PC version." It definitely bears watching, and keep in mind the story could change as Infinity Ward releases more information on IWNet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissxi Posted October 17, 2009 Member ID: 320 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 107 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 13 Achievement Points: 858 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/08/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 14, 2015 Birthday: 06/25/1984 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Well if the name blizzard is in it.. you know subscription is going to be in the future... i mean shit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissxi Posted October 17, 2009 Member ID: 320 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 107 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 13 Achievement Points: 858 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/08/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 14, 2015 Birthday: 06/25/1984 Share Posted October 17, 2009 179 mill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu Posted October 17, 2009 Member ID: 542 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 311 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1628 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 29 Achievement Points: 11299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 3, 2014 Birthday: 03/01/1975 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 Well I am rethinking my purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaFU73 Posted October 17, 2009 Member ID: 85 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 14 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 514 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 139 Achievement Points: 3113 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 3 Birthday: 01/30/1973 Device: Macintosh Share Posted October 17, 2009 This is very disconcerting?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sun Tzu Posted October 17, 2009 Member ID: 542 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 311 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1628 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 29 Achievement Points: 11299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 3, 2014 Birthday: 03/01/1975 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 It wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaFU73 Posted October 18, 2009 Member ID: 85 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 14 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 514 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 139 Achievement Points: 3113 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 3 Birthday: 01/30/1973 Device: Macintosh Share Posted October 18, 2009 I just posted a negative review for MW2 at the BestBuy.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sun Tzu Posted October 18, 2009 Member ID: 542 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 311 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1628 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 29 Achievement Points: 11299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 3, 2014 Birthday: 03/01/1975 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickJames Posted October 18, 2009 Member ID: 58 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 7 Topic Count: 370 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2552 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 16507 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 26, 2012 Birthday: 08/27/1975 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Here is a post that Caper made earlier on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu Posted October 18, 2009 Member ID: 542 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 311 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1628 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 29 Achievement Points: 11299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 3, 2014 Birthday: 03/01/1975 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 And that post is what in regards to dedicated servers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaFU73 Posted October 18, 2009 Member ID: 85 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 14 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 514 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 139 Achievement Points: 3113 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 3 Birthday: 01/30/1973 Device: Macintosh Share Posted October 18, 2009 The post by Caper is in reference to Bata testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Caper Posted October 18, 2009 Member ID: 102 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 10 Topic Count: 201 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1776 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 82 Achievement Points: 10986 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2014 Birthday: 05/06/1969 Share Posted October 18, 2009 14.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorglub. Posted October 18, 2009 Member ID: 339 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 1 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 01/05/1965 Share Posted October 18, 2009 http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html Petition : Dedicated Servers for CoD:MW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frags Posted October 18, 2009 Member ID: 158 Group: ++ COD5 Admin Followers: 27 Topic Count: 122 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 755 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 418 Achievement Points: 5755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 27 Birthday: 09/11/1958 Device: Windows Share Posted October 18, 2009 " a major focus for the team at Infinity Ward and we would never ship a product we didn?t feel lived up to the high standards we hold ourselves to." LOL, how many patches on Cod waw already? One of the buggiest games I have ever seen. I don't really care for Cod4, not gonna buy the 2nd version of it. I think I will just keep on playing waw. If they won't allow others to run servers then the game will die. I will vote with my wallet. NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sitting-Duc Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 07:07 AM Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Android Share Posted October 19, 2009 Personally i think that this is one of the most stupid ideas ever HOWEVER it may work - look at L4D, true you can have dedi servers but the majority of people play private games with random people so-to-speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bama Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 19 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 101 Topic Count: 318 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4444 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 2763 Achievement Points: 29399 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 02/29/1968 Device: iPhone Share Posted October 19, 2009 Fraggedyann LOL, how many patches on Cod waw already? One of the buggiest games I have ever seen. I don't really care for Cod4, not gonna buy the 2nd version of it. I think I will just keep on playing waw. If they won't allow others to run servers then the game will die. I will vote with my wallet. NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RickJames Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 58 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 7 Topic Count: 370 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2552 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 16507 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 26, 2012 Birthday: 08/27/1975 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Re: PC, 360 or PS3 Version (No Dedi Servers Suck) Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:07 am Gavino7 wrote: 1 : Should i Cancel my PC order? 2 : should I get it on my PS3 or my 360 rather then the PC? 3 : Or just NOT buy any version until more info on the PC is known? 4 : Do Clans Work on the 360/PS3 Version, (like on the PC)? 5 : Is there alot of Lag and Drop-outs on the 360/PS3 Versons? Responce From The Moderator: 1. No 2. PC 3. PC information will be released more closer to release 4. Not the same, PC has clan servers, PS3 and 360 use a clan tag system 5. Depends on the host, in COD4 on both the ps3 and 360 if a host has a crap connection then lag would be a major problem Forum Community ModeratorFollow me on Twitter Original Infinityward Forum Member: thebigb59 Senior Forum Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptNut Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 106 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 177 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 956 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7, 2020 Birthday: 10/28/1975 Share Posted October 19, 2009 this is gonna suck balls. And CaptNut doesnt take that laying down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryWeezer Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 20166 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 7652 Content Per Day: 1.98 Reputation: 7228 Achievement Points: 53663 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 16 Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Share Posted October 19, 2009 This is horrible news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
MajorDamage Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 273 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 6 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 70 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 08/28/1970 Share Posted October 19, 2009 this is more for the ranking system I think. Non-dedicated servers will be able to play the game but as a MOD serever with no ranking systom. BF2 did the samething at the start. Server list will show dedicated & non-dedicated server. Dedicated server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruggerxi Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11865 Content Per Day: 2.21 Reputation: 12938 Achievement Points: 106425 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: Windows Share Posted October 19, 2009 I hope you are right Damage if no dedicated servers then this game will tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Frags Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 158 Group: ++ COD5 Admin Followers: 27 Topic Count: 122 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 755 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 418 Achievement Points: 5755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 27 Birthday: 09/11/1958 Device: Windows Share Posted October 19, 2009 PT-Bama Fraggedyann LOL, how many patches on Cod waw already? One of the buggiest games I have ever seen. I don't really care for Cod4, not gonna buy the 2nd version of it. I think I will just keep on playing waw. If they won't allow others to run servers then the game will die. I will vote with my wallet. NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
T4LBlue Posted October 19, 2009 Member ID: 505 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 25 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 165 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 06/30/1987 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Want to see a way to kill a game before its released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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