LiquidStool Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 508 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 4 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 472 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Achievement Points: 5787 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2016 Birthday: 01/20/1969 Posted March 12, 2010 Morning all Just read the PM about ads on the site and i'd like to "ad" my two pence worth. Firstly, i think it's great that members and even non members step up and donate every month, and i notice every month that donations go over the required amount. By donating i think it gives you a sense of ownership. Ads are all very well as long as they don't become too intrusive and we don't end up getting spammed to death! Personally, i think that XI are likely to earm more dosh from Google Adsense, i personally click on several ads throughout the day but it's very rare i'll buy anything, if i'm thinking of making a purchase, i'll go to sites i know and trust. What's the chances of me wanting to buy something from an ordinary ad, particularly if the XI site is only going to have a few select ads. I myself would rather set up a regular payment to XI to donate a set amount every month than have to look at lots of ads. We currently have over 400 members by my math $10 x 412 = $4120 or even $5 a month would swell the XI coffers by $2060 a month, far, far more than is currently donated, what could XI do with that?! I appreciate that not every member is well off, i'm certainly not, but when i take into consideration the amount of time i spend on the servers, it works out at a few pennies per hour. I ain't gonna be able to spend 100hrs at my local cinema, bowling, or football (soccer) ground for $10 dollars a month! So, surely members could step up and pay $5 a month? remember, it's YOUR XI you facking idiot!
JohnnyDos Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Posted March 12, 2010 Sounds good to me Stool.At $5/month = $60 and like you said some people get no income.But I'm for it rather than the adds crap.I'd rather throw in my $100/year That I know totally goes to >XI< rather than buy something and that gives >XI< just a little portion of that money from whatever one of us buys.And on top of this how many items and how much money are we going to spend on items?How much dough will that generate?I don't know Rugger I'd rather do it the way I have been by sending you my 2 payments a year.
LiquidStool Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 508 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 4 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 472 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Achievement Points: 5787 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2016 Birthday: 01/20/1969 Author Posted March 12, 2010 word up JohnnyDos. I am not in a finacial postition to pull out $60 dollars at once, but i would be more than willing to set up a regular paypal/bank credit to XI for $5 a month. What about those peeps that aren't XI and seem to spend more time here than XI members, surely they could pay a little something? After all, why should i help somebody game endlessly for free, particularly when they kick my ass frequently. Maybe it would help cut down on the people that abuse/hack the servers if they had to pay to come and play.
Ph4nt0m Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 1 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 39 Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1909 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 121 Achievement Points: 11489 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 4, 2020 Birthday: 06/28/1975 Posted March 12, 2010 We do actually keep a record of all donations made through the website, even after the module resets on the 1st of the months, the previous months records are stored, I just checked back through the records since the donation module was implimented and I'd have to say that probably 25% of all donations made since 10th Sep 2009 have been from non-members,
ShadowLady Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 25 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 27 Topic Count: 111 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2251 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 136 Achievement Points: 12883 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 10:31 PM Birthday: 10/30/1969 Device: Windows Posted March 12, 2010 I realize that they are looking towards the future of XI and the stability of funding. As we stand right now, we do seem to meet the expectations and then some each month. I try to give a little every second or third month and will continue to do so (my husband is unemployed so I can't give too much). We do have at present 412 clan members so hopefully some of them could come up with a little every few months and we should keep "in the black" in the books! Maybe that should be one of the suggestions for "XI Medals" once that system is up and running. I'm really not too hot on clicking on adds and worrying about getting cookies/spam/whatever. I'd rather give my money straight to the person I'm supporting than buying a product to have only a small percentage given to whom I'm supporting. -Shadow Awards
JohnnyDos Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Posted March 12, 2010 Stool you don't have to pull out $50 - 60 at once.I just paypal the website every 6months Since I've been comming here.That was about just under 10 bucks/mon.I just don't want to make so many Pay Pal transactions.But I know what you mean.there are a lot of people on here that don't donate one cent but want all the benefits.I know it says you don't have to donate but things cost money and Rugger cant do this all by himself.Lets just see what happens.You do have a great idea though.
AmboyDuke Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 161 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 709 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 1 Achievement Points: 3768 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2012 Birthday: 06/19/1962 Posted March 12, 2010 I think that advertising porn on the website would generate millions in revenue, like ">XI< Gone Wild". That way Bud and Chili can stop sending me porn links through X-fire.
Brotrinde Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 363 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 296 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1674 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 22, 2024 Birthday: 12/13/1977 Device: Android Posted March 12, 2010 I think a porn WITH Bud and Chili would help us out for the next ten years! I have only little Online-Gaming experience besides >XI< but I know that other games request membership and you have to pay a monthly fee. So for me it is clear that I give my bucks away every month - cause I am happy that I can easily afford it! I dont care about ads because I would block them - which is not the intended use...but support a solution with like basic ads for a regular income and the rest will be given by us players.
Ruggerxi Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 188 Topic Count: 2830 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 12253 Content Per Day: 2.14 Reputation: 13528 Achievement Points: 107523 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 135 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 31 minutes ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: Windows Posted March 12, 2010 The point of the pm was that I dont want the members have to be responsible to pay $500, $600 shit even in a couple years who know $1000 a month. I want to get something besides the donations to help pay for the servers. I want to keep expanding the clan and that will cost money. This has never and will never be a pay to play clan, XI is a place to come and play and not worry about the everyday problems, that includes money. If people are financially able to donate then please do, if not then dont its ok. The pm was not about that we need money, its about the future and the expansion of the clan into other games and servers. Why not get another source of income and reduce the financial burden on our members. But again I want to make the members feel comfortable on there own website, so far on pms I have heard good things, but on this post there is a couple negative things. Lets give this a month and see how you all feel about it at the end of the month. I will post how much commission XI made over the month and see what you guys want to do going forward. Awards
RickJames Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 58 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 7 Topic Count: 370 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 2552 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 16507 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 26, 2012 Birthday: 08/27/1975 Posted March 12, 2010 I agree with rugger we should have this sence of extra income into the clan. Its not so much that members have to buy something to create income to XI to help support the servers. This will prob catch alot of visitors to our website and they may and could follow these links if they feel that company has what they need. I cannot say exactly how many visitors we get everyday to our website, but its right around a whole shit load of people accessing the site daily. Also we all know that not every member can contribute to this great clan but I will still have a blast BS-ing and gamming with them. Plus we are a growing family and with a bigger family you need more homes (servers) so that everyone can enjoy what we have here at XI and like anything it takes more and more money to do this so if these ads make us $50 or $400 a month it does not matter everylittle bit helps and betters XI and keeps the our best damn game servers in the world going strong along with the generosity of some of members and visitors. Lets keep striving forward, and lets see how these ads will help support the servers of XI. My 2 Cents
Labob Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted March 12, 2010 There are alot of add blockers for both IE and firefox out there free and easy to use might I suggest trying one of them if adds drive you nuts. So does this mean you guys are setting up affiliate accounts with tigerdiercect, amazon and so on. If so please remember your northern border defence crew up here in the great white north. An american account does nada for me. Awards
LiquidStool Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 508 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 4 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 472 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Achievement Points: 5787 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2016 Birthday: 01/20/1969 Author Posted March 12, 2010 ShadowLady I'm really not too hot on clicking on adds and worrying about getting cookies/spam/whatever. I'd rather give my money straight to the person I'm supporting than buying a product to have only a small percentage given to whom I'm supporting. I'd go along with that view point Shadow
LiquidStool Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 508 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 4 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 472 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Achievement Points: 5787 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2016 Birthday: 01/20/1969 Author Posted March 12, 2010 hey, i didn't mean to stir a hornet's nest here. my point simply was that i personally wouldn't use an ad, in fact i'd use an ad blocker. I've clicked on ads from some pretty reputable companies over the years and my email account immeadiately feels like my ball sac - full. Ok, so i have the choice to click thru, equally i have the choice not to. for me, i'd rather so it at source, my bank or paypal. after a month or two, i wouldn't even notice it was going out. I always MEAN to click the donate button, but i more often than not will forget. Whatever happens, XI will continue to be my homepage! i would unfortunately click on a porno ad/link, sorry - i can't help it!
BudSr Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 5 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 359 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 2475 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 242 Achievement Points: 16234 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 25, 2020 Birthday: 02/02/1966 Posted March 12, 2010 well the ads on the site are computer stores i buy stuff from all the time. i don't think rugger would put anything on our site that would screw use over. the point is these are also tools for members and non-members to find computer parts cheaper and XI will get a kick back. no brainer to me. oh and if you need porn you have my x-fire.
Ph4nt0m Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 1 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 39 Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1909 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 121 Achievement Points: 11489 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 4, 2020 Birthday: 06/28/1975 Posted March 12, 2010 So do you think that maybe it's worth setting up a Paypal Subscribe button along with the donation box ? A method that you can set up a set amount to be donated via paypal evey month ?
baldie Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Posted March 12, 2010 I agree 100% with Rugger and think it is a great idea.. But also Ph4nt0m has a point too some of us would like to subscribe now I am working and have just started to get a regular income 5$ a month would be no problem so having the option to be lazy and just set up a subscription would be great. I love the idea of choice and those who can afford it why not, and those who cant well I wish them all the luck in the world and hope their fortunes change for the better. But I will never have a problem playing along side those who cant afford it because untill Jan I was unemployed and could not afford it myself. Thats why we are a family we care about our friends here on XI and never judge anyone Awards
Brotrinde Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 363 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 296 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1674 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 22, 2024 Birthday: 12/13/1977 Device: Android Posted March 12, 2010 ph4nt0m So do you think that maybe it's worth setting up a Paypal Subscribe button along with the donation box ? A method that you can set up a set amount to be donated via paypal evey month ? Yup!!! I would promote that!
billyblade Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 34 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 47 Topic Count: 182 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2097 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1003 Achievement Points: 14880 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12, 2018 Birthday: 04/29/1966 Posted March 12, 2010 i have been a deadbeat since i joined. I can justify this in my own mind and financial situation, but it really doesnt hold water. the only reason i havent cancelled my internet is that it is the "ONLY" way to search for any employment in these hard times. I have employment, enough to get me and the missus by, and i think of donating all the time, especially when i see non members donating to my cause. What does this mean? It means that i, unfortunately, am one of those that is taking advantage of others contributions for my own amusement and benefit, of which i am sorry(and you say how sorry if you cant donate?....i know). Just know this. I truly, from a business standpoint (as my attempted business failed), understand some of the responsibility by which Rugger is carrying personaly and am truly grateful, and thankful for those who have been so generous as to help maintain the site. Is this my disclaimer for being a non contributor?...no. For that there can be none. Just a word to say that i know where my obligation ultimately lies, and given the current situation, will recompense in due order,not because i have to, but because i truly want to. That said, whatever our idiot in charge deems appropriate for this site gets all thumbs up from me as it should from all members and non members alike. I realize this is a very friendly site, but this is no democracy. Carry on Rugger and keep kicking its ass for all our benefit. Thx for even giving any of us the opportunity to offer an opinion on what you see fit to to do for the clan, or the site. Awards
LiquidStool Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 508 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 4 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 472 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Achievement Points: 5787 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2016 Birthday: 01/20/1969 Author Posted March 12, 2010 a well thought out post mate, thumbs aloft!
greywolf2 Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 35 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 44 Topic Count: 345 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4812 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 420 Achievement Points: 28063 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Posted March 12, 2010 I back this 110%.... Rugger has made XI what it is today (WHICH IS THE BEST DAMN CLAN AROUND) and doing this all not by forcing members or non members to pay to play........ Here at XI our servers are open to all who want to hang out / have fun and just plain------Be a IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!! I have been here with this clan for many years now and the reason i joined is Ruggers laid back ways of how to run a clan..... As long as you have fun/remember it is just a game----- then let loose and have a fucking good time..... He made it clear from the get go he didnt want a server where the rules list was longer than the dictionary...... From the get go it has been 2 rules---- And last i checked those 2 rules are still in effect..... Another thing is he never insisted or will he ever make it a rule that if your a member or non member you must pay to play------ again as of today this is still true. Not only do server cost go up, but with XI sponsoring poker tournies/prize giveaways for xi only cod tournies, so the added expense starts to go up. To have a few ads here and there is no problem---- and like our servers if you dont like the ads and do not want to click them then dont....... Cookies/spam/history is so easy to get rid of--- evan those nasty little .dat files microslut so cleverly put into IE (wont use it) SO bring it on Rugger you are the Head Idiot and must be doing something right---- THIS F*&(ing CLAN IS HUGE!!!!!!!!!!
Ph4nt0m Posted March 12, 2010 Member ID: 1 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 39 Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1909 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 121 Achievement Points: 11489 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 4, 2020 Birthday: 06/28/1975 Posted March 12, 2010 Just to add to this, Any boxes that you don't want to see can be closed too, simply hover your mouse over the title of the box and two small Icons will appear on the right side, click the minus icon to minimize the box and the X icon to close it totally, Any closed boxes will be listed at the top of column 1 in a module called "Cookie Jar"
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