COD4 MW2 New FT mod

[LilAcorn]

Not sure if this has been posted or mentioned...

 

Love it all except for ONE THING the warning you get when you are close to a frozen player. I am hearing lots of complaints about it so far... PLEASE remove that little thing

[Sammy]

That stays. Or part of it does.

 

The reason for it and the radiation is because people were glitching and firing from inside the bubble. I was unaware of this problem and this was the best way to take care of it. Just think of it as radioactive ice. But if the message itself is an issue I can do something to disable it but the radiation will remain. Note that the radiation doesnt damage. It just stuns you until you move away a little bit. The circle is pretty small. Then again... another solution is to simply not try to hide so close to enemy bubbles.

[Gatorgirl]

I don't mind it except it does it to you when you are like 10 feet away from the person, should only be 2 feet or so I would think

[LilAcorn]

Ive been in a bubble before and got killed with no problem... its how i tease wildthing and a few others too lol with my evesdrop. Guess I wont be playing much till it is dropped completely and it does damage you

[Sammy]

For clarification: As a comparison the circle uses the same proximity circle as a friendly defroster would. But if you get hit with the radiation you are still affected for a bit after you leave. Like tabun/nova gas but less severe. To be sure this wasnt just a fluke I tried glitching myself and it can happen sometimes if you place yourself in the right spot. Just so you know, before this went live an earlier version wasnt radiation. If you stood there too long it would suicide you. 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... boom! So if anything, say thank you very much that I didnt do that.

 

The suicide option I tested was very unfair so this was a fair compromise.

[Gatorgirl]

Like I said, I don't mind it but if you are running past the person that is frozen you get hit and it slows you down, that seems unfair if you are just running past them, like stepping in quicksand......

 

http://www.xfire.com/video/6265cc

Edited May 29, 2014 by Gatorgirl

[pitbullpete]

Plus it says "move away Solider"   shouldnt it be move away Soldier lol  And I dont think its necessary players have been playing behind the bubble since the freeze mod was developed.

[Scoarch]

yea i noticed that also GG.   would be nice if it was a contact thing.   then those that glitch inside it would be effected and those running by would not.  plus if someone gets shot in a doorway or on stairs and you are trying to find a way past it messes with you .

Edited May 29, 2014 by Scoarch

[Sammy]

Spelling error fixed and will show up on the next restart. There is a two second delay between being too close and the radiation starting. Usually enough time to run past. But I did not think about things like stairs so I can bump that up to five seconds if that would take care of it.

[Gatorgirl]

But what if they are frozen next to a corner (3 feet)  and you want to sit at that corner and shoot around it?  I do that a lot.  This would keep me from using the corner even though I am not using the bubble as a shield.  I like Scoarch's suggestion that it's only when you are touching.  It really alters the way you play a map..........ya know, it could be a strategy, get team mates frozen in prime locations so the other team can't use them and then don't defrost them....no thanks

Edited May 30, 2014 by Gatorgirl

[Sammy]

I will see if I can make the circle a little smaller so that it will still serve its purpose but be more flexible.

[Gatorgirl]

Awesome!!!! Thanks Sammy!!!

[Sammy]

Ok how is this....

 

To be affected you must almost be, but not quite, touching the enemy player collision cylinder. You should see yourself visibly standing inside the largest bubble size. The smallest ones you wont since they already are pretty much the size of the enemy player. The delay is five seconds before the effects begin. If five is not enough to get around enemies in unusual locations I can raise that to 10.

[Giggles]

Sammy just a fyi if you are stuck between 2 players and one is on the other team this will kill you I only know this because it happened to me

[CobraBites]

Sammy just a fyi if you are stuck between 2 players and one is on the other team this will kill you I only know this because it happened to me

me too dont think its fair either cause im spawn rusher ....i was in enemy spawn i froze too ppl side by side really close to me...and it killed me...i dont like this feature i like it the other way better...i never shot out of my bubble...sorry sammy not trying to seem difficult about it but i d say 90 percent of the server is not liking this also..from all complaints i hear in game anyways

Edited May 30, 2014 by CobraBites

[Rascal]

Personally, I do not enjoy it either. I didn't like the fact that you could not shoot through the bubbles anymore. I know a lot of other people didn't either.

 

Now you're trying to add another feature most people dislike to 'fix' something most people already didn't like. 

 

I don't want to sound rude or unappreciated because of how much work you've put into this Sammy, but it all seems unnecessary.

 

That's my input.  

[Sammy]

Perhaps you can be more specific on what happened? When you say stuck that means you cannot move away at all? It cannot kill you. It can disorient but that is all. When the tweaks go live this shouldnt happen as much unless you are really close and for a longer period of time.

 

As a side note: Any further issues about not being able to kill enemies hiding in bubbles?

 

edit: If all the admins prefer the non-solid version... with the caviat that you must aim the beam at the player only to defrost... I will change it. It wont be ready for a few days because I must recompile parts of the mod. Take a vote and let me know what the score is.

Edited May 31, 2014 by Sammy

[LilAcorn]

Think what they are saying is if they were to be in a cornered spot and they killed to players right there with them or so, they are pined in that corner tight and they cant get out to save themselves. quite a few of us are known to get ourselves stuck in that situation... LOL

[Sammy]

Well if players let themselves get cornered like that a lot then maybe its deserved. I keeed. 

[CobraBites]

Well if players let themselves get cornered like that a lot then maybe its deserved. I keeed. 

well not really...but in maps that have random spawns it is big issue its hard to stay next to teammate to defrost when enemy is rt next to them and ur not in spot to move at distance to defrost...like we just had with the map cave...couldnt move fast enough to defend our selves to defrost and 3 of us died in the spot and got trapped there ..

[CobraBites]

Perhaps you can be more specific on what happened? When you say stuck that means you cannot move away at all? It cannot kill you. It can disorient but that is all. When the tweaks go live this shouldnt happen as much unless you are really close and for a longer period of time.

 

As a side note: Any further issues about not being able to kill enemies hiding in bubbles?

 

edit: If all the admins prefer the non-solid version... with the caviat that you must aim the beam at the player only to defrost... I will change it. It wont be ready for a few days because I must recompile parts of the mod. Take a vote and let me know what the score is.

i ll start a vote but im guessing the old bubble way might win on this one...just fair warning lol

[CobraBites]

ok just set up to vote sammy will let you know what the final verdict is

[Sammy]

For the defrost I can add an exception that if you are defrosting... by either the beam or proximity... you are unaffected. If the vote 'wins' for non-solid then no biggie. So long as everyone knows it will require downloading a new mod.ff file because the model itself has to be recompiled.

[Giggles]

@@Sammy I mean if I am spawning and have 2 bad ppl by my and I get trapped between them it KILLS me I have already died 3 times because of this so YES it can happen. I agree that it's bull crap you can't shot someone behind a bubble but they can sure as hell shot you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LilAcorn]

LOL we're idiots, cant help it getting stuck in a sandwhich or threesome or whatever ya call it these days now