Scoarch Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 1733 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 9 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 614 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 555 Achievement Points: 5925 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 16, 2022 Birthday: 10/14/1967 Share Posted June 25, 2014 i agree rascal. sort of sucks that that type of game play is getting the heat. i thought we as Idiots were not supposed to discriminate on a persons playing style. now seems to me that my play style is being discriminated on with the bounty. my computer sucks so my frame rates suck. so sitting in a strategic place and defrosting my team mates is what i do. now i get a bounty on me for doing that? Rascal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RANDALL Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2582 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 778 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 6919 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2021 Birthday: 07/22/1991 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Twice I have received two Mininukes on one map in consecutive Care Packages, both utilizing Hardline and by pure luck. I think it would be better if higher killstreaks were kept to Attack Packages. Getting an AC130 or Mininuke after three kills with Hardline is bull shit in my opinion. Granted, some people rarely get more than three or four consecutive kills, so I do not wish to penalize those who may not normally get higher killstreaks. On a separate note, I don't really like the bounty thing. Just to clarify, I had asked if snipers would receive bounites earlier today, and Bogleg told me they do not. Is that true? I certainly hope so, since not many snipers are mobile, unless you have a background in promod, like myself, but I enjoy being a stealthy sniper on the other side of the map, and I'd hate to receive a bounty because it would ruin the sniping experience. Otherwise, I run and gun with my shotgun, so I am not worried. I just want my damn B-2 Spirit! xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iboomboom Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 09:05 AM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Macintosh Share Posted June 25, 2014 I do not understand the complaints of wall spamming. If i was in a real situation were i had to defend or die i would not hesitate to shoot some one through a wall. and the complaints that are said about no way he should have shot me. there was a wall there do not add up. a bullet will pass through the siding , 2 layers of ply and the insulation of a exterior wall easily. the inside is usually just two layers of drywall. a good pellet gun will pass through that. @Scoarch: This isn't real life, you wouldn't be spamming a wall with an RPD/SAW in real life to get a +50 show up on your iron when you kill someone and that's a different discussion all together. I was pointing out that it promotes a culture of LMG spamming. I wall spam too, it doesn't bother me, I merely state that I don't think it's good game play. @Sammy: This bounty thing is annoying, very very annoying. Who decided that camping is punishable by humiliation? Critique - Anyone staying in one place more than 30 seconds gets tagged. I think the timer should be somewhere around 3 minutes. I was in one of those maps with the castle tower. I may move around, but until I jumped off the tower it did not shut up. Also, should it not take the bounty off of you when you have moved? @Randall: I have noticed that people with better KDR get better re-rolls or CPs in general. When I get 1 kill per every 3 deaths I get a shit UAV or Counter UAV too, well when I used CPs. So Kudos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RANDALL Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2582 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 778 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 6919 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2021 Birthday: 07/22/1991 Share Posted June 25, 2014 One other thing I am curious about is saving Care Packages to use at the start of a round. I've noticed that if you use a Care Package at the start of a round that typically you receive an undesirable killstreak, etc, like Resupply. Does the timing of calling in a Care Package affect the outcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 Annoying to whom? People that dont camp? Or campers? Anyways targeting is based on points not time. It currently requires a bounty of 50, which is deliberately low right now. Otherwise its just points to the other guy when he gets you. Next map the move time will be raised from 30 seconds (also set low for testing) to 60. All you have to do is move 150 units during that 30 seconds. Surely you can do that. Like I said, part of testing is to find out what works and what is missing. For one, because there seems to be some confusion, I am going to change the moneybag icon on the 2D hud so it only shows if you are actually targeted. Otherwise printline nofitications will tell you that the price has gone up. So if you dont see the bag you know they cant see you. Going to be uploading some additions late this evening, once I am sure they work, that will account for defrosting and being in an RC. Besides, if you want to snipe from a tower get a sniper rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 No those things do not affect what cp awards you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
moonpie Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2184 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 238 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 298 Achievement Points: 1743 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/31/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 08:41 PM Birthday: 09/04/1975 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 I do not understand the complaints of wall spamming. If i was in a real situation were i had to defend or die i would not hesitate to shoot some one through a wall. and the complaints that are said about no way he should have shot me. there was a wall there do not add up. a bullet will pass through the siding , 2 layers of ply and the insulation of a exterior wall easily. the inside is usually just two layers of drywall. a good pellet gun will pass through that. I don't have a problem with someone shooting me through a wall, if they see me. What bothers me is the random wallspray looking for hit-markers. Since the comparison is what could happen in reality, you don't get hit-markers in real life. That is the only time that I get annoyed at wall-spray. Moneybags: I don't mind the moneybags but think the time is a little low. I do like the concept, however. Some people tend to abuse map terrain to get themselves hidden for a full map, and never move. The only way to find them is to spec them. My play style is to get behind the enemy and shoot folks in the back....I'm sure folks would like a moneybag over my head if I was camping "hidden" in their spawn with an MP5. If folks with sniper rifles are going to get a moneybag then the time should probably be set at 3-5x the amount of time someone with an MG would get. (e.g. - 90 sec for MG and 480 sec sniping) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
FlyingDutch Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 6623 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 9 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 213 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 155 Achievement Points: 2466 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Birthday: 06/11/1978 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 Camping is part of the game ! Scoarch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Rascal Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 1450 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1210 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 469 Achievement Points: 7995 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 18 hours ago Birthday: 06/02/1997 Device: Linux Share Posted June 25, 2014 Again, I do not agree. Camping is a part of the mod and that's what we have always told people who complained about it. At this point, I won't play anymore as long as the bounty crap is used. KingStinger! and Scoarch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
KingStinger! Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14559 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 Again, I do not agree. Camping is a part of the mod and that's what we have always told people who complained about it. At this point, I won't play anymore as long as the bounty crap is used.Much agreed, I won't be in that mod either until it's gone. In my opinion that's is the worst addition to the server as of yet. Now as I understand it is in test mode so fingers crossed it will go away..for not its back to the old freeze tag server or ace mod I guess. Scoarch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 Do you camp continuously? No? Then this is a non issue for you. Funny you mention the ACE mod and the threads I have read recently complaining about spawn campers and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Exe Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2567 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2904 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 983 Achievement Points: 17118 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 06/08/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 09:39 AM Birthday: 12/11/1986 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 i dont know about most...but to me all these mini nukes kinda getn boring and is ruining the game for me.....just ppl getn way too many....i ve seen players like tagger boobies exe and few others...that have gotten 4 in one map....i think mostly its due to the re roll option of the care packages wish this could change....2 maps so far today i played in row....i saw ateast 6 mini nukes 4 on just one map...really feel this needs to change to bring back the fun in the game..atleast for me anyways.. + with u m8. Yesterday again, 3 nukes in less than 2 rounds, and not a very larger map... Was not really funny... Ironic maybe, but not really funny. I'm not at all agree with cobra. I think that as tagger or player exe have nuke after a large number of kill. And I think having the opportunity to have nuke when your team loses, makes it possible to reverse the situation and I find it very funny ... I m here for fun, not to finish first. J would like to say that we are not the war on cod 4, but we play .... IDIOT: COBRA ...... LOL I gonna put a (real) mininuke in ur ass next time Frenchi :-). Mininuke should be not allowed on some minimaps, It ruins the game even if it's funny for the guy who's launching it ahah. 1 in 100 chance could be better Sammy. (and cars should be at 4 kills and not 3, sometimes there are more cars ingame than players... but it's another problem). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 The problem with the cars is not the kills required. But because its settings are above the defaults to make it more powerful that it should be for a hard core game. It was fine before imho but then the complaints were that it wasnt powerful enough and not fast enough. So now the damage is higher and the speed is lightening fast. Made them more attractive to set in the loadout. Same with the mininuke. Its current settings are higher than the defaults due to complaints. Like I said the RC most of the time only gets one kill. Not very good really since it requires you to waste one of the three loadout options. And with all the counter measures players can choose from its not a guaranteed kill either. Most defaults are generally set with a soft core game in mind but options to customize values. Meaning for example the RC would be against a player with 100 health. Keep in mind this is a server where some people get upset when they cannot kill an enemy with a single shot to the foot. YACCster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Exe Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2567 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2904 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 983 Achievement Points: 17118 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 06/08/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 09:39 AM Birthday: 12/11/1986 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 The problem with the cars is not the kills required. But because its settings are above the defaults to make it more powerful that it should be for a hard core game. It was fine before imho but then the complaints were that it wasnt powerful enough and not fast enough. So now the damage is higher and the speed is lightening fast. Made them more attractive to set in the loadout. Same with the mininuke. Its current settings are higher than the defaults due to complaints. Like I said the RC most of the time only gets one kill. Not very good really since it requires you to waste one of the three loadout options. And with all the counter measures players can choose from its not a guaranteed kill either. Most defaults are generally set with a soft core game in mind but options to customize values. Meaning for example the RC would be against a player with 100 health. Keep in mind this is a server where some people get upset when they cannot kill an enemy with a single shot to the foot. I don't see the car as a kill-machine but more as a defrozing-machine, I only kill if I can't defroze no more teammates. And with a car, we can defroze 5-6 teammates (if we're smart enough), so for me it's very powerful. Scoarch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
KingStinger! Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14559 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 Do you camp continuously? No? Then this is a non issue for you. Funny you mention the ACE mod and the threads I have read recently complaining about spawn campers and such.Show me one thread where I complained about spawn camper to validate your rebuttal. As a matter of fact show me one thread where I have ever complained about anything. I typically NEVER complain about anything, I thoroughly enjoy ALL the XI servers I play on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 I don't see the car as a kill-machine but more as a defrozing-machine, I only kill if I can't defroze no more teammates. And with a car, we can defroze 5-6 teammates (if we're smart enough), so for me it's very powerful. Yes, this is likely why it was made so fast. Not to chase people around but to defrost more players. I remember when I added that ability. It was controversial. It often turned the tide of a battle almost won and some didnt like it when that happened. And now? Nobody has any problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
FlyingDutch Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 6623 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 9 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 213 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 155 Achievement Points: 2466 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Birthday: 06/11/1978 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 Well i think that if you look at server numbers - its been quiet. I have a suspicion that the camper bounty is a huge cause ! Rascal and Scoarch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Damage_inc- Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.37 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 fkn senty dies too easy .they should have to take an explosion to be disarmed,limit nukes yes and rc cars too/howbout take out nuke from random packages ,that should be earned and turn down damage on rc cars too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Damage_inc- Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.37 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 can we add a llamma cage like in dod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted June 25, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2014 Sentries are also quite powerful. Especially now since you keep unplaced sentries through death. Knifing sentries is also part of the game. Cars can be annoying but compared to grenade spam it is nothing. Especially blind grenade spam. Funny how I hear so much about the cars but nobody suggests I should cut grenade damage and range in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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