BigPapaDean Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1210 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6553 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4430 Achievement Points: 63653 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18 Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2014 I am now installing the Bfd 4 as I broke down to get it All my specs with the exception of the memory on my graphics card are higher than what is required. I need to know should I buy 8 64bit? Awards
OddJob001 Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted August 14, 2014 I personally will never go back after going to 8.1 Just make sure to install classicshell, less Metro get the best of you. DuckyofDeath123 1
MikeB Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 59 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2174 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 2415 Achievement Points: 15578 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2014 If you have 7 don't install 8 !!! Wait for 9 which will bring back the "Start" menu that 8 dropped. Yes 8 may load a little faster, but the GUI, (Graphic User Interface) is touch screen based. 8 is a cell phone OS in my opinion. Stick with 7 if you have it. Awards
JohnnyDos Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Posted August 14, 2014 I am now installing the Bfd 4 as I broke down to get it All my specs with the exception of the memory on my graphics card are higher than what is required. I need to know should I buy 8 64bit? Hope you got the premium package so you can play on our servers Dean.I run W7 with the game.If you like to knife you're going to like this one,but not only that,you can counter knife and that is something else to see.Good luck and try not to rage quit like I've done,cause you will get your ass kicked and balls cut off at the same time for a little while.LOL
OddJob001 Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted August 14, 2014 If you have 7 don't install 8 !!! Wait for 9 which will bring back the "Start" menu that 8 dropped. Yes 8 may load a little faster, but the GUI, (Graphic User Interface) is touch screen based. 8 is a cell phone OS in my opinion. Stick with 7 if you have it. Or like I said, use classic shell and then you dont have to deal with something as simple as a start menu preventing you from enjoying all the performance and error handling that 8.1 has. Goodbye 7. DuckyofDeath123 1
BoomSlang Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 94 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 565 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 375 Achievement Points: 3842 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 12/03/1955 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2014 Wait for 9 Awards
djMot Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 98 Topic Count: 357 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 5257 Content Per Day: 1.09 Reputation: 11146 Achievement Points: 48948 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 114 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:05 PM Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Dean, if you have Win7 Pro 64 bit, there is no need to upgrade to 8.1 at this time. That might be worth holding off until you have a new pc. HOWEVER - if you're okay spending the money, remember this one thing, then consider my advice... Remember: Win8.1 Pro 64 Bit OEM can only be installed on one machine period. It's a little cheaper. Win8.1 Pro 64 Bit RETAIL can be un-installed and re-installed on a different machine. It's more expensive.. Advice (if you're going to go with Win8.1 at this time): Buy a 2TB WesterDigital Black Drive. Install the drive in your system (it will be secondary to your original C: which is still booting win7, but that won't matter for long...) Install Win8.1 Pro 64 Bit from your CD drive. Follow this guide to set up a dual boot (you could actually ignore this guide, boot from the CD and install onto the new, blank drive, and it will just take care of it. If you read the guide, it will jump you from beginning to almost the end where you'll come to the same conclusion - that being that MS did a brilliant job of making this drop-dead simple!) http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2344-dual-boot-installation-windows-8-windows-7-vista.html Aside from the flattened interface (which I don't mind so much any more), there is no fear moving to Win8.1. I absolutely LOVE it. Don't fall into the negative hype trap - it's all crap. Everything works on 8.1 and it's delightful to use. The differences are subtle, but wonderful. Yes, you will probably want to get "Classic Shell" so you can have a Win7-style start menu on the desktop. Hibernate mode is better way of powering off, and you'd almost think you have an SSD with how fast it boots AND returns you to where you left off when you power back up. Win8.1 is worth that one feature alone! Edited August 14, 2014 by djMot OddJob001 1 Awards
OddJob001 Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted August 14, 2014 As an IT professional I have no idea what these people are talking about. Update to Windows 8.1 Better performance Better kernel handling Better kernel startup and shutdown - SSD - Windows 7 ~ 24 seconds boot time / Windows 8.1 ~ 7 second boot time. Better error handling Better error reporting Better driver handling More? Better 3d handling - directx improvements Better Task Manager reporting Native USB 3.0 Support Better data transfer handling Native support for ISO, VHD mounting Native compatibility support for nearly any past Windows OS djMot 1
Sonovabich Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2014 Well opinions are like arseholes.....everyone has one JohnnyDos 1
djMot Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 98 Topic Count: 357 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 5257 Content Per Day: 1.09 Reputation: 11146 Achievement Points: 48948 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 114 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:05 PM Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2014 As an IT professional I have no idea what these people are talking about. Update to Windows 8.1 Better performance Better kernel handling Better kernel startup and shutdown - SSD - Windows 7 ~ 24 seconds boot time / Windows 8.1 ~ 7 second boot time. Better error handling Better error reporting Better driver handling More? Better 3d handling - directx improvements Better Task Manager reporting Native USB 3.0 Support Better data transfer handling Native support for ISO, VHD mounting Native compatibility support for nearly any past Windows OS I know right? It's the fear of the unknown, pure and simple. And once you know, the fear seems absurd in retrospect. All that's left is the kicking yourself for not doing it sooner! Dean, my suggestion gives you the best of both worlds, and once you've totally migrated over to Win8.1, you can wipe the original drive you currently have Win7 on and start using it for Win8.1's "File History" and an image backup. OddJob001 1 Awards
BigPapaDean Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1210 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6553 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4430 Achievement Points: 63653 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18 Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Author Posted August 14, 2014 Well opinions are like arseholes.....everyone has one Have you had yours checked lately? lol L!ckALotAPus and OddJob001 2 Awards
Oneill Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Posted August 14, 2014 I also had the same fear when switching from windows 7 to 8 with BF4, but you will be happy to know that yes its worth it. there is a very noticeable FPS increase in bf4 on windows 8 compared to windows 7. Windows 8 is just optimized better even if I personally like the old style better. USMale and OddJob001 2
ArticBlue87 Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 21259 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 71 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 20 Achievement Points: 457 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/08/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 19, 2015 Birthday: 03/13/1987 Posted August 14, 2014 I also had the same fear when switching from windows 7 to 8 with BF4, but you will be happy to know that yes its worth it. there is a very noticeable FPS increase in bf4 on windows 8 compared to windows 7. Windows 8 is just optimized better even if I personally like the old style better. Lots of people are due to the metro start menu. But it do run better. My GF have windows 7 and allways has some problems with her laptop. And she mostly only play on face book.
7Toes Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted August 14, 2014 lmfao i used window 8 8.1 i think both version were for tablets not for pc performance.the way microsoft works they make a good os then a bad os then a good os then a bad os 8.1 is the bad one they just left off with thats why it tanked only reason they sold any was they forced it down your throat in all the new pc,s on the shelf JohnnyDos 1 Awards
7Toes Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted August 14, 2014 @@ArticBlue87 is the lap top a dell that was her problem not the os Awards
7Toes Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted August 14, 2014 @@BigPapaDean stay with 7 until we see if 9 is ok which the way they make os it is probably going to be a good one xp=good vista=crap win7=good win8 8.1=peace of shit win9=hopefully good one USMale 1 Awards
ArticBlue87 Posted August 14, 2014 Member ID: 21259 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 71 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 20 Achievement Points: 457 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/08/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 19, 2015 Birthday: 03/13/1987 Posted August 14, 2014 @@ArticBlue87 is the lap top a dell that was her problem not the os HP and they are good laptops. I have a HP that has windows 8 and no problems. She has allready getting bluescreens.. But I think it's the fan in here laptop as she has it on almost 24/7 and now we have a house rule to turn off our PCs when we dont use them. (I'm bad at shuting down my gaming pc haha).
djMot Posted August 15, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 98 Topic Count: 357 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 5257 Content Per Day: 1.09 Reputation: 11146 Achievement Points: 48948 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 114 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:05 PM Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Posted August 15, 2014 @@BigPapaDean stay with 7 until we see if 9 is ok which the way they make os it is probably going to be a good one xp=good vista=crap win7=good win8 8.1=peace of shit win9=hopefully good one I don't subscribe to this theory. The only truly horrendous Windows version was WinMe, which was the bridge between WinNT on the corporate workstation, and mainstream home computing. Problem is that it amounted to little more than a user interface update on Win95 and a half-baked move to poorly implemented features of the NT core that were not fully realized until XP. But that's ancient history (in computer years) Vista was just fine. Everyone freaked over UAC, and although it was designed to keep the typical user from getting a headshot from drive-by malware, everyone wanted to shoot microsoft for making them click OK before anything could be installed. WTF? And did you see UAC go away in 7? Nope. I ran an Internet radio station on Vista for 6 YEARS. I had absolutely NO problems with Vista at all, and liked it a hellofa lot better than XP. Each new version of Windows gets a bad rap. There is a tick-tock cycle with Windows, and yes, Win8, Win8.1 is a tic, 9 will be a tock, but with each tick and each tock, things improve. People just don't want to believe the tick is worth a damn because it's where the next wave of wonderful begins, and that means change, and everyone resists change. Well, resistance is futile. Win8.1=Fantastic. Win9 will probably be even more fantastic, but that doesn't make the current fantastic any less fantastic right at this moment. Awards
MikeB Posted August 15, 2014 Member ID: 59 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2174 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 2415 Achievement Points: 15578 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Device: Windows Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) As a licensed Microsoft OEM I have several PC's in office, and around the house running everything from Windows 98 to 8.1 . Hell I have a few Linux based pc's too. I was beta testing 8 long before its release to the public. And on the oem beta test release we had a start menu !!! But Microsoft wanting to push their Windows Phone OS,.. dropped the start menu to focus on touch screen capabilities. Yes you can install "Classic Shell" and solved the stupid ass ugly touch screen squares, but Microsoft, under extreme complaints from power users and oem's are bringing the start menu back. I will soon be able to get 9 under the beta test program and I am curious as to how in depth the menu will be, but I'm not holding my breath. But if you are itching to beat hell to get and try 8 then you better install "Classic Shell" like mentioned. Hell pretty soon your OS will be on ROM and all updates and programs will be "Cloud Based" with few being directly on your pc. Microsoft will charge users a monthly or yearly "maintenance fee" to use their programs. Sort of like Steam does for games (but they don't charge a monthly fee, well.. yet). That's why 8 is the way it is Edited August 15, 2014 by MikeB Awards
OddJob001 Posted August 15, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted August 15, 2014 lmfao i used window 8 8.1 i think both version were for tablets not for pc performance.the way microsoft works they make a good os then a bad os then a good os then a bad os 8.1 is the bad one they just left off with thats why it tanked only reason they sold any was they forced it down your throat in all the new pc,s on the shelf I dont think you understand much about PC performance after this statement. lol. DuckyofDeath123 1
OddJob001 Posted August 15, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted August 15, 2014 As a licensed Microsoft OEM I have several PC's in office, and around the house running everything from Windows 98 to 8.1 . Hell I have a few Linux based pc's too. I was beta testing 8 long before its release to the public. And on the oem beta test release we had a start menu !!! But Microsoft wanting to push their Windows Phone OS,.. dropped the start menu to focus on touch screen capabilities. Yes you can install "Classic Shell" and solved the stupid ass ugly touch screen squares, but Microsoft, under extreme complaints from power users and oem's are bringing the start menu back. I will soon be able to get 9 under the beta test program and I am curious as to how in depth the menu will be, but I'm not holding my breath. But if you are itching to beat hell to get and try 8 then you better install "Classic Shell" like mentioned. Hell pretty soon your OS will be on ROM and all updates and programs will be "Cloud Based" with few being directly on your pc. Microsoft will charge users a monthly or yearly "maintenance fee" to use their programs. Sort of like Steam does for games (but they don't charge a monthly fee, well.. yet). That's why 8 is the way it is HAHA. thats funny to consider. The day that happens is the day I move everything to *nix. I too have been waiting for that RTM of 9 to show up.
DuckyofDeath123 Posted August 15, 2014 Member ID: 19683 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 578 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 598 Achievement Points: 4968 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 25 Device: iPhone Posted August 15, 2014 I was going to reply to this again but frankly, I can't be arsed since it would simply end up getting shot down with things like "the way microsoft works they make a good os then a bad os then a good os then a bad os 8.1 is the bad one" The professionals are saying "buy 8.1" and the amateurs are saying "8.1 is shit". All you have to do is choose who you take your advice from. djMot and OddJob001 2 Awards
Sonovabich Posted August 15, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted August 15, 2014 Have you had yours checked lately? lol Yes had mine fixed last September everything is working as it should
DuckyofDeath123 Posted August 15, 2014 Member ID: 19683 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 578 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 598 Achievement Points: 4968 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 25 Device: iPhone Posted August 15, 2014 Seriously SOB? Nobody's made a joke about "have you been using it wrong?" yet? Awards
MikeB Posted August 15, 2014 Member ID: 59 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2174 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 2415 Achievement Points: 15578 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Device: Windows Posted August 15, 2014 8.1 is not a rework of the kernel or foundation of the OS, like some have mentioned. It simply is 8 with a few added features aimed to appease us critics (which is the majority). Sales of 8 are dismal and for good reason. One needs to look at what drivers they need for peripheral devices and or if the software they use will run on that OS before choosing 7 or a version of 8. Basically the same shit we went through moving from XP or Vista to 7,.. drivers were the issue, and are more a problem with 8. Awards
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