24 MAN TRUE HARCORE SERVER

[NITRO]

 

Since we have so many bitchers, complainers and whiners... Lets set some things straight.

 

The US Server gets the most traffic.

The EU Server gets the 2nd most traffic.

The US Hardcore gets the third.

Now that thats out of the way, why the fuck would we want to get rid of the higher populated servers? Guess what? BOTH servers had even HIGHER populations before the US Hardcore server was started.

So whatever your basis is for thinking this is BULLSHIT, is, well, BULLSHIT in itself.

 

 

Making fun of Admins for trying to help populate the servers that you love to play on? Wow. What a commendable thing for a member to do..

I dont sit and try to populate the server for my own good. I do it for members and for the future well being of the clan. I do it to try and get good people in the server that we can then eventually invite into our family.

Perhaps if others had this same attitude we wouldnt be having this discussion.

 

 

With a shitty-ass douchebag attitude like that I hope when we remove it, that not only your money goes, but that you go too. Its the likes of you we dont need plaguing us.

 

Here you are, happily enjoying the service your Admins and Leader spend great deals of time and money on. All while not providing any real value to the clan, and then acting like children when something doesn't go your way.

Instead of criticizing or pissing and moaning, why don't you find a way to help or contribute.

 

Insane.. Who knew there were so many whiners, bitchers and moaners that surround us.

First of all @@OddJob001, the first couple of paragraphs from the OP is:

 

"We are considering removing the 24 man true hardcore server.

This server is having a detrimental effect on our other two servers.

 

we have found players we have recruited from the eu custom and us softcore servers are playing on the hardcore server but this severely affects the other 2 servers."

 

THAT is what I based my comment on. What else was I supposed to take from that? I didn't write it because I am a bitcher, complainer or whiner, so how about you take the time to read the OP properly and you may have understood why I wrote what I did.

 

Also you say not providing any real value to the clan? I donate every fucking month and spent countless hours looking after my area for the clan so you can stick that comment up your ass.

 

Also just so you know, next time you want to include me in one of your shit slinging posts, how about you make sure I deserve to be in there, because next time I won't be so civilised.

Edited September 11, 2014 by NITRO

[OddJob001]

ok.

[IJHicks]

I've got a big head... All the girls love it... so does Jay...

 

I think everyone needs to take a step back and a few deep breaths.

 

Let's have a look at it..

 

US are keeping their soft porn server

EU are taking minimap off to go hardcore porn

 

your still going to get your fix of proper hardcore and soft core from both servers and not splitting the hard core players over 1 large server and 1 small server.

 

Thus is it not better to play in the larger hc server (before anyone shouts about small maps I have always seen bf games as large maps with combined arms)

 

Also as to hackers it's easier to catch a hacker when minimap is off as there's less of a not sure if he saw him on minimap when he pre fired while walking round the corner.

[Pud Muscle]

I know I am new, but it doesn't make sense. Shut down a hardcore server to make us play soft core? I play both Euro and US servers (hc) prefering the US because my ping is better. This is one of the reasons I petitioned to join XI. If this is gone, I guess I'll have to play some place else. This is not a threat but a consequence of shutting down a server that is played most every day by a group of friendly peeps. I would really like it if you kept it. Thanks for allowing me to voice my opinion.

[Oneill]

I know I am new, but it doesn't make sense. Shut down a hardcore server to make us play soft core? I play both Euro and US servers (hc) prefering the US because my ping is better. This is one of the reasons I petitioned to join XI. If this is gone, I guess I'll have to play some place else. This is not a threat but a consequence of shutting down a server that is played most every day by a group of friendly peeps. I would really like it if you kept it. Thanks for allowing me to voice my opinion.

 

I don't think you understand, they are not shutting down a Hardcore server in favor of a soft core server, instead they are merging both of our hardcore servers into one hardcore server. you still get to play the same game type with the same people and the only thing that's really changing are the maps and maybe your ping.

[Pud Muscle]

It is if your ping changes 80pts

Edited September 12, 2014 by Pud Muscle

[Pud Muscle]

I still don't understand how this move benefits the soft server?

[NITRO]

People who play the EU servers are leaving them to play US HC server, this is killing the numbers in the EU servers which according to BF Admins are the bread and butter servers that most of the recruiting gets done in. That's what I'm taking from the previous posts @@Pud Muscle

Edited September 12, 2014 by NITRO

[Sonovabich]

Tosser Definition:

 

Literally, one who masturbates.

 

Cool.  So its something we all should strive to try an be.

You really have no idea what it means, thought you knew everything too, oh well even the mighty fail sometimes.Oh yeah and on the subject of recruiting, i have recruited more people into this clan then you have had hot dinners pal and most of them stayed....something else you didn't know, you really are having a bad day.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Sonovabich

[Sonovabich]

I have zero respect for someone who can't abide by our code of conduct, I don't care if you have been a clan member for a week or 6+ years, if you can't treat others with respect then you don't deserve to have an opinion or tags.

Who asked for your respect, it's amazing what one percieves as a personal attack, your tosser m8 can attack us over our posts calling us whiners but when we stand up for ourselves it's suddenly a personal attack  you must really have lead a sheltered life pal, it's obvious you have no idea what a personal attack is, here is another thing we say here too " Xi is an adult clan Please leave your sensitive feelings at the door" 

Edited September 12, 2014 by Sonovabich

[Sonovabich]

First of all @@OddJob001, the first couple of paragraphs from the OP is:

 

"We are considering removing the 24 man true hardcore server.

This server is having a detrimental effect on our other two servers.

 

we have found players we have recruited from the eu custom and us softcore servers are playing on the hardcore server but this severely affects the other 2 servers."

 

THAT is what I based my comment on. What else was I supposed to take from that? I didn't write it because I am a bitcher, complainer or whiner, so how about you take the time to read the OP properly and you may have understood why I wrote what I did.

 

Also you say not providing any real value to the clan? I donate every fucking month and spent countless hours looking after my area for the clan so you can stick that comment up your ass.

 

Also just so you know, next time you want to include me in one of your shit slinging posts, how about you make sure I deserve to be in there, because next time I won't be so civilised.

Haha i love you Nitro, respect man.

[Sonovabich]

All i can say and i have already spoken with Edd is, i think this all could have been handled better by the Admins,  this could have been sorted without a post going up and  speaking to the regular players in this server and not catching people unaware, as we keep getting told there is only a few of us who play there so speaking to them would have been much better and probably no drama , i really am amazed at certain individuals who never play this server who are actually campaigning to remove it and not because of the said reasons, apparently some wanted it gone from day one, yet they never play it and never ever tried to make this a success, i have been around here a long time and i have never seen a game group actively campaign to get rid of one of their own servers before. I keep hearing the word "Community" a real community would have got together and tried to make this server work but as we see many were hostile from the very beginning so we were always up against it, you may as well pull the plug on it now can't see why we should wait another month.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Sonovabich

[DEEJAYKEG]

Having navigated through this minefield, I thought I'd ask a few pertinent questions

(and, before anyone reaches for their mouse to award me another medal, I already

have the one for "pain in the ass"! ).

 

Indeed, the questions I am about to ask really go beyond this single game and could be

applied to any supported by the clan for which it provides servers...

 

We have already established that the clan is in good financial health and the reason(s)

behind the suggestion that we lose a BF4 server are not connected with the expense of

maintaining it.

 

It has been made abundantly clear in the preceding messages from Admins that a significant

driving force behind the idea is recruitment.  There is a turnover of members with some

departing but, as the recent influx amply demonstrates, there is hardly a problem with recruiting

new blood.  The clan has grown at least 25% in size in four years AFAICR and we have a lot

of great players with tags, many of whom have a good sense of humour.

 

So, my first question is: why are the BF4 Admins seemingly obsessed by recruitment?

 

The clan isn't a business so why is there this perceived insatiable appetite to add to its numbers?

(I'm hoping that the answer won't reveal a liking for 'pissing competitions'...)

 

Second question - this one relates, perhaps, more to the specific topic of this thread...

Are the clan servers operated primarily for the benefit of its members or for visitors?

 

Third question:  To what extent does an interest in server rankings drive the Admins to consider

making changes to the servers the clan operates?

(They seem to have meant something in the past though I have never understood why.)

[EDD THE DUCK]

I did only say considering ..

I am sad the eu has lost the support off the breakfast club. It has changed the dynamics of the servers . But changes need to made .

 

As you are are very passionate about the 24 man server . And money was never an issue. We will be keeping it . It is populated by XI members so that is a good thing .

The eu server will also be going true hardcore . It's something I have tried numerous times but have not been successful . Basically it was like this thread but in game .

 

So we Are keeping the 24 true hardcore server.

And god bless ye who all play in it

Edited September 12, 2014 by EDD THE DUCK

[JohnnyDos]

That's great news Ed especially on Martini Friday.And since you said that you will make the Euro server HC I will stop by more often and I'm sure others will.

[Benrith]

Can someone explain how this is beneficial having 2 servers running the same game? 4 people in 2 different servers... that means neither server has the required number to get it going. where as 4 on one server would have started it? Just throwing it out there...

 

 

[Sonovabich]

Can someone explain how this is beneficial having 2 servers running the same game? 4 people in 2 different servers... that means neither server has the required number to get it going. where as 4 on one server would have started it? Just throwing it out there...

 

 

Well even i can't argue with that one, only to say the Euro server has just changed to how some that go into the true hardcore wanted it to be, only other thing is that we do get people in the true hardcore that might not go into the Euro server because of their pings but yes even i think it is a bit strange. Thing is if there was no mini map in the Euro server in the first place there would have been no need for another server.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Sonovabich

[Benrith]

About an hour later... So we now have 2 servers with shit numbers instead of 1 server with ok numbers... still just throwing it out there.

[EDD THE DUCK]

Basically if you go into the 24 man server it will be like visiting your grandad in the old peoples home !!

But seriously . With a bit off support the eu server day traffic will pick up again .

Edited September 12, 2014 by EDD THE DUCK

[Barron]

I thought the since you's where considering of shutting down the US hardcore, you would change the EU server to hardcore like the US hardcore to keep the regular players on the US hardcore an alternative server to go to.

 

If the decision to keep the 24 man hardcore server is sorted now , then is the EU server gonna remain hardcore as it is at the moment without the minimap?

 

 

[mouselad]

well last night 64 conquest was packed for hours. when i was playing there was 5 in queue this was around 8:00 CST. not sure how long it lasted, but fun times. hope its packed some more this weekend.

[OddJob001]

well last night 64 conquest was packed for hours. when i was playing there was 5 in queue this was around 8:00 CST. not sure how long it lasted, but fun times. hope its packed some more this weekend.

 

Winter is Coming...  

 

It will be

[Oneill]

Well even i can't argue with that one, only to say the Euro server has just changed to how some that go into the true hardcore wanted it to be, only other thing is that we do get people in the true hardcore that might not go into the Euro server because of their pings but yes even i think it is a bit strange. Thing is if there was no mini map in the Euro server in the first place there would have been no need for another server.

 

I don’t get it, you just admitted that now that the eu server removed the minimap, which is what you guys originally wanted, that there is no need for another server. You also just acknowledged that you see and cannot argue with the fact that there is a problem with the distribution of players in the two HC servers. So I guess my question is, given what we just learned are you still against merging the two servers to fix this, and if so why? Is ping the only reason at this point?

Edited September 12, 2014 by Oneill

[JohnnyDos]

For me when you have 40-50 players,I have a hard time getting out of the spawn area,but with 24 players you have room to breathe,plus we can run the smaller domination maps and if you have to wait in queue you have another option,something like the OVERFLOW server in COD 5.NICE stuff

[mouselad]

For me when you have 40-50 players,I have a hard time getting out of the spawn area,but with 24 players you have room to breathe,plus we can run the smaller domination maps and if you have to wait in queue you have another option,something like the OVERFLOW server in COD 5.NICE stuff

 

yea i like small maps, especially on hardcore. 64 player HC servers can become a clusterfuck. sometimes when the 64 player even on softcore is full up it is a bit too much for me and i want a smaller player base so i will switch to the HC server.