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Just installed Windows 11 on my laptops with the Windows 11 Installation Assistant. Not liking the new start menu, seems to take longer to get where you want to go. Was a pretty painless install though, kept everything I had installed- apps and drivers.

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Was really surprised how easy it was. In Windows 10 my drivers would all be changed to Microsoft outdated ones and there would also be about 25gig of used space for "Windows Old" which is not present after the Windows install with the Installation Assistant. Just have to get used to the UI changes. My Pc's that do not meet W11 requirements show a warning in Windows Update saying "what" is not supported. Do not see any way to revert back to W10, not sure if this is the case when updating through Windows Update.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11?ranMID=24542&ranEAID=nOD/rLJHOac&ranSiteID=nOD_rLJHOac-OYyBaKcrpFcaXS2mkpBY3w&epi=nOD_rLJHOac-OYyBaKcrpFcaXS2mkpBY3w&irgwc=1&irclickid=_3wexct0ae0kf6zdjaotq3lnicm2xrcjqi129pcec00

After looking around a bit it appears if you go to Settings/System/Recovery/Go Back, you can revert back to Windows 10

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I will STRESS had W11  quite liked it till it crashed on me and ended up re installing W10 plus everything else,Now cannot reinstall W11 according to there stupid health check i do not have secure boot enabled.....uhmmm yes it is! nothing changed in bios since last install.Checked yep enabled, of to wonderfull MS  wallers to be told delete health check and redo  a new install ! ok ,Nope same no you cannot run  as secure boot not enabled.So after 2 weeks i give trying

PS even tried  rolling  back bios nope that dint work so either bios  or bored is naffed or W11  ......going for W11 being the problem

its an amd X470 Aurous ultra gaming MB

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Are all drives GPT partition? Secure boot will not work with MBR partitions. Bios must be UEFI also.

 

 

 

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Been using the beta build (21H2) of Windows 11 for about a week now.  No crashes or issues.  Got it mostly for the Auto HDR function.  If you have a good HDR monitor and beefy card, it's worth it for gaming, IMO.

I know that the final build is supposed to come out today but not getting anything new when going to Windows Update.  I guess I have to get the Installation Assistant.

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This is strange... just downloaded the Windows 11 Installation Assistant from Microsoft's website and when I click on it, it starts up then vanishes within a second.  There probably is a difference when updating from Win 10 to Win 11 and Win 11 beta (from Windows Insider program) to Win 11.   : (

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1 hour ago, Dunepire said:

This is strange... just downloaded the Windows 11 Installation Assistant from Microsoft's website and when I click on it, it starts up then vanishes within a second.  There probably is a difference when updating from Win 10 to Win 11 and Win 11 beta (from Windows Insider program) to Win 11.   : (

You can use the other option for the media creation tool to make installation media and install fresh, will have to reinstall apps though.

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10 minutes ago, Tw33tle_Dee said:

You can use the other option for the media creation tool to make installation media and install fresh, will have to reinstall apps though.

LOL, actually I found out what the issue was.  Did a "winver" check and I was already on the latest release version which as of this writing is 21H2 (OS Build 22000.194).

You'd think there'd be a simple pop-up saying "You're already running the latest version" but no.

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14 hours ago, Tw33tle_Dee said:

Are all drives GPT partition? Secure boot will not work with MBR partitions. Bios must be UEFI also.

wow big storage with UEFI 

 

UEFI stands for Unified Extensible Firmware Interface. ... UEFI supports drive sizes upto 9 zettabytes, whereas BIOS only supports 2.2 terabytes. UEFI provides faster boot time. UEFI has discrete driver support, while BIOS has drive support stored in its ROM, so updating BIOS firmware is a bit difficult.

One zettabyte is equal to one sextillion bytes or 1021 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) bytes, or, one zettabyte is equal to a trillion gigabytes.

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Found the old w10 install under "Settings/System/Storage/Temporary Files/Previous Windows Installations",  This was not seen in Disk Cleanup as in W10

If these files are left alone, they will automatically deleted in 10 days.

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10 hours ago, Tw33tle_Dee said:

Found the old w10 install under "Settings/System/Storage/Temporary Files/Previous Windows Installations",  This was not seen in Disk Cleanup as in W10

If these files are left alone, they will automatically deleted in 10 days.

Oh, that's good to know!  Thanks!

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Shoved in Win 11 (Pro version) on my AMD 2700x on a MSI x470 Gaming Carbon Pro rig and will see how it goes.  When I did the beta a bit back COD4 played like crap, laggy and skipping frames.  Had to uninstall the MSI Dragon program to get it to install.  Still don't like the new taskbar nor the look of the Start button when opened.  Also the Start button has quit working 6 or 8 times and have to restart Windows Explorer to get it to work again.  Tried to use the Reg hack to return to the Win 10 Start look when opening up Start, but that was a no go.  Worked in the beta but MS has killed that in the release version.  Haven't done any benchmarks stuff yet but will soon as I also read about the performance drop with AMD CPU's. Using a local logon so widgets don't work unless I go with MS logon. Will test out COD4 on out FT1 server and see how that goes, but unless you really like rounded corners on things, there isn't much reason to upgrade.  I don't use MS Teams, there is a cut down version of a online MS Office with it.  Extremely limited control of my RTX 2070 in the display settings.  My home network is still screwed as there is a master browser problem and my other systems can't see this one.  So a bit more testing before I decide to roll back to win 10 or not.  But all my programs seem to work.

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So went and played a bit on FT1... not good.  Frame rate was jumping from 35 to 500+.  Tried some adjustments but nothing worked.... Good thing is that it only took 5 minutes to roll back to Win 10.  So seems that Win 11 is just a lipstick upgrade for Win 10... and not a good shade right now if you ask me.

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On 10/7/2021 at 12:37 PM, Tw33tle_Dee said:

Those of you with AMD cpu’s may want to hold off on installing W11 till later;

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/windows-11-is-up-to-15-percent-slower-with-amd-cpusfixes-coming-in-october.html

I received the invitation to upgrade today having changed the BIOS settings to enable this but the size of the download is offputting as I calculate it'd take about 18 hours to come down the continuous 3.2km of damp string between here and the telephone exchange.  Living out in the sticks has some advantages but the down side is that one is further from technology.  If I can link the PC to my 4G modem-router, I may be better equipped.  I am in no rush.

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Win 11 is still buggy with both Intel and AMD CPUs. Extremely laggy internet and random application crashes across both platforms. I'm usually excited about a new OS but not this time. I usually get the new MS OS rite away with the Windows Insider program but I opted out this time.

They finally got win 10 working half as good as they kept saying it was at release lol. Think I'll wait atleast 6 months to a year before installing Win 11.  Maybe by that time they will have all of the buggs worked out?  

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