Remmy Posted January 15, 2022 Member ID: 24169 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 73 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 652 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/01/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 5 Birthday: 04/06/1997 Device: Windows Posted January 15, 2022 For the last 2 months anytime i would start to play games (Any game in general). My PC monitors would literally go black and not come back. I would have to shut it off by the case i literally tried every new part from CPU to PSU. And still the same outcome. and then i redone drivers and also reinstalled windows thinking it would help but it didnt. Until i came across the MOBO come to find out some has gotten hot and melted it. The board is Semi Warped with a dark black burnt look. Anyone know what would cause this im trying to not have it happen again "if it does". Temps never passed 65c on anything. SPECS B450 Tomahawk MOBO Ryzen 5 5600x Cooler master ML360R Corsair vengence 32g 3600Mhz EVGA Supernova 850w 80+ Gold RTX 3070 BlackRose 1
PainKiller Posted January 15, 2022 Member ID: 20107 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 19 Topic Count: 122 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2021 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 2495 Achievement Points: 16746 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/21/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 08/01/1994 Device: Windows Posted January 15, 2022 If you can spare the money, buy a replacement mobo. Best to get the same model you already have, so your PC won't freak out over hardware errors. If your board is semi warped, I'd say you're pretty screwed BlackRose 1 Awards
loaderXI Posted January 15, 2022 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 72 Topic Count: 396 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6439 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 6582 Achievement Points: 54661 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 32 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Posted January 15, 2022 Just a side note....Cod series games will act like this if you use a usb mic/headset rather then a 3.5mm jack TBB 1 Awards
J3st3r Posted January 15, 2022 Member ID: 2162 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 153 Topic Count: 152 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5223 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 5172 Achievement Points: 45913 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 24 Joined: 01/25/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 08:12 AM Birthday: 02/26/1972 Device: Windows Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Could be from improper cooler installation. Cooler master ML360R uses the Stock AM4 mounts. It will warp the board a bit if you over tighten the thumb screws. That little bit of warping will partly lift the heatsink on the VRM cooler and cause it to burn out. Symptoms of a damaged VRM include thermal shutdown, rebooting and a very unstable PC especially when loading any CPU intensive program. B450 Tomahawk doesn't have the best VRM config to begin with. Any overclocking will overheat the VRMs and running a Higher end Ryzen 9 5800x, 5900X or 5950X will cause the motherboard to quickly fail because of there higher voltage requirements. I read a bunch of reviews on the B450 boards and they run really hot especially if you run a 100-125W+ TDP chip in them. B450 comes with 4+2 phase setup where as the B550 comes with a 10+2+1 phase setup and the X570 comes with a 12+2 or a BEEFY 14+4 phase setup. However the X570 boards all have those small Garbage chipset fans on them that tend to fail after a couple years. I bought my X470 before the B550 boards came out because 3rd and 4th gen Ryzen wasn't officially supported with the B450 and I did Not want another board with one of those Garbage Chipset fans on it. I got my MSI X470 Gaming Plus MAX for $120 and it's very good for a Budget Mid-range motherboard that supports 3rd and 4th gen ryzen. 4th gen support came in a Bios update. I'm running a 3rd gen Ryzen 7 3700X 8 core 16 thread cpu. I really need to get a better cooler though. The stock AMD Wrath Prizm cooler works very well but it is loud as heck. I would recommend getting an MSI B550 motherboard if you can find one at a decent price. Motherboard are starting to go back up in price again. Edited January 15, 2022 by J3st3r BUDMAN and Dessy 2 Awards
Remmy Posted January 15, 2022 Member ID: 24169 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 73 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 652 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/01/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 5 Birthday: 04/06/1997 Device: Windows Author Posted January 15, 2022 Jester yeah christmas kinda broke me so i yanked out my old z590 board out of my old pc and using it for the time being till i can grab the one i want. and honestly wasnt a fan of the b450 boards anyway. I have to flash it to a beta bios to support the 5000 series chips which was a pain to begin with. and loader i havent ran into that problem yet thank goodness
KaptCrunch Posted January 15, 2022 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4902 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 4088 Achievement Points: 39630 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 minutes ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted January 15, 2022 have tried running MB out of case ? for seen a warped case bent MB. modular PSU cables for PCI-e and MB, power wires mixed up need to check with a meter and pin out of them other MB made cheap buss traces or short in the layer of board Awards
Ranger Posted January 16, 2022 Member ID: 27712 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 76 Achievement Points: 732 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/19/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 28 Birthday: 07/14/1996 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2022 thats a good catch. i would of never looked for that. Is the warranty still available?
Krackennutz Posted January 16, 2022 Member ID: 22889 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 65 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 350 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 413 Achievement Points: 2835 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/14/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 09:19 AM Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 5:05 AM, J3st3r said: Could be from improper cooler installation. Cooler master ML360R uses the Stock AM4 mounts. It will warp the board a bit if you over tighten the thumb screws. That little bit of warping will partly lift the heatsink on the VRM cooler and cause it to burn out. Symptoms of a damaged VRM include thermal shutdown, rebooting and a very unstable PC especially when loading any CPU intensive program. B450 Tomahawk doesn't have the best VRM config to begin with. Any overclocking will overheat the VRMs and running a Higher end Ryzen 9 5800x, 5900X or 5950X will cause the motherboard to quickly fail because of there higher voltage requirements. I read a bunch of reviews on the B450 boards and they run really hot especially if you run a 100-125W+ TDP chip in them. B450 comes with 4+2 phase setup where as the B550 comes with a 10+2+1 phase setup and the X570 comes with a 12+2 or a BEEFY 14+4 phase setup. However the X570 boards all have those small Garbage chipset fans on them that tend to fail after a couple years. I bought my X470 before the B550 boards came out because 3rd and 4th gen Ryzen wasn't officially supported with the B450 and I did Not want another board with one of those Garbage Chipset fans on it. I got my MSI X470 Gaming Plus MAX for $120 and it's very good for a Budget Mid-range motherboard that supports 3rd and 4th gen ryzen. 4th gen support came in a Bios update. I'm running a 3rd gen Ryzen 7 3700X 8 core 16 thread cpu. I really need to get a better cooler though. The stock AMD Wrath Prizm cooler works very well but it is loud as heck. I would recommend getting an MSI B550 motherboard if you can find one at a decent price. Motherboard are starting to go back up in price again. HAVE THE X470 ULTRA GAMING AND LITTLE 2600X.... will say best way water cooling! made own loop system[ didnt use ridge pipe used medical grade rubber tubiing] cost in your money around $150 in line temp guage never goes above 30c thats mostly in winter with heatiing on summer 23/25c playing Warzone etc
Dessy Posted January 16, 2022 Member ID: 22372 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 64 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 638 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 724 Achievement Points: 6208 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/25/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 25 Birthday: 06/12/1976 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 6:05 AM, J3st3r said: Could be from improper cooler installation. Cooler master ML360R uses the Stock AM4 mounts. It will warp the board a bit if you over tighten the thumb screws. That little bit of warping will partly lift the heatsink on the VRM cooler and cause it to burn out. i was thinking the same thing here +1 Awards
KaptCrunch Posted January 16, 2022 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4902 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 4088 Achievement Points: 39630 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 minutes ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2022 krackendrnutz medical grade ? nope not soft rubber type , mine lasted 2 yrs and crumbled apart leaking everywhere . Awards
Remmy Posted January 16, 2022 Member ID: 24169 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 73 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 652 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/01/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 5 Birthday: 04/06/1997 Device: Windows Author Posted January 16, 2022 Ranger nah the board is like 3 years old and its served its purpose for sure!!! not really mad about it on to bigger and better things lmao. Ranger 1
Remmy Posted January 16, 2022 Member ID: 24169 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 73 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 652 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/01/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 5 Birthday: 04/06/1997 Device: Windows Author Posted January 16, 2022 Kaptcrunch i havent tried running it out of case i was just fed up with it and swapped the board out lol i was done with the headache
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