baldie Posted November 4, 2012 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Posted November 4, 2012 Hi guys I Have an NVidia GTX470 that is overheating big time. I need a better way of cooling it now I have more than enough Fans in my comp and the rest of my PC is cool very cool. Its just the gpu thats causing the problem As you will see fans front back side and large exhuast Fan in the top Awards
baldie Posted November 4, 2012 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Author Posted November 4, 2012 Oh just to let you know since that pic I removed the middle bay to Increase the Air flow even more from the front intake fan and it made no difference to the gpu Awards
FiShMaN Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 1096 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 136 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 25 Achievement Points: 789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2016 Birthday: 02/21/1955 Posted November 5, 2012 How old is the card ? ports plugged up maybe
baldie Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Author Posted November 5, 2012 Card is about a year old and it used to overheat when playing crysis thats why I changed my case to add more cooling and that seemed to work until I started playing MOH now its overheating again. And I know the ports are clear because every 2 months I strip it down and clean it and the last time I cleaned it was 3 days ago. Awards
7Toes Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted November 5, 2012 look like your power supply is discharging its heat right into your vid card.also make sure the fan is working when you notice it over heating Awards
baldie Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Author Posted November 5, 2012 look like your power supply is discharging its heat right into your vid card.also make sure the fan is working when you notice it over heating Damn I never even noticed that The good thing is there are exhaust vents underneath the power supply so turning it over will not be a problem. I cant believe I never noticed that what a bloody Idiot I am lol. Well thats the first thing to try thank you . Sometimes you look for problems and forget to check the obvious Mule 1 Awards
tsw 8.5 Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 906 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 144 Topic Count: 537 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 17540 Content Per Day: 3.13 Reputation: 42644 Achievement Points: 151913 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 691 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Birthday: 11/30/1960 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 after you do that ,do you use msi afterburner to turn up the fan speed of the card ..and the 470 runs hotter then most from what i have seen ..i have the EVGA 560 ti 448 .with my fans on the card at 70%.playing BF3 for 3 hours ..my card gets up to 63 cel...and most nvdia cards dont burn up till 105 cel.. simplemod 1 Awards
LaRSin Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 45 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 981 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 9422 Content Per Day: 1.65 Reputation: 3730 Achievement Points: 68083 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 02/25/1951 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 look like your power supply is discharging its heat right into your vid card.also make sure the fan is working when you notice it over heating I think PS fans actualy sucks into it to cool the PS , and it exhaust it out the back , to help cool the pc and power supply Blackbart 1 Awards
LaRSin Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 45 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 981 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 9422 Content Per Day: 1.65 Reputation: 3730 Achievement Points: 68083 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 02/25/1951 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 but turning it over would help cool the PS . Blackbart 1 Awards
LaRSin Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 45 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 981 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 9422 Content Per Day: 1.65 Reputation: 3730 Achievement Points: 68083 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 02/25/1951 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 On a another note , I allso would have the cpu fans turned the other way , were they blow out the back to creat a air flow.Don't think that will help your Video Card unless it blowing on to it. simplemod and Blackbart 2 Awards
LaRSin Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 45 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 981 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 9422 Content Per Day: 1.65 Reputation: 3730 Achievement Points: 68083 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 02/25/1951 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 Ok from what I can see, you may be causing some of your own problems , The cpu fans are sucking air from the Video Card and the power supply is doing the same thing, you need to creat a good air flow, through your case, And across the card and cpu., Air in and air out. Like a tunnel. sorry for all the posts , but the more I looked the more I could see. Damage_inc- 1 Awards
KaptCrunch Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4872 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4053 Achievement Points: 39427 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 51 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 you need to open the video card and re-paste with nt-h1 thermal compound an re pad the memory chips with silicon sheet while apart take off rear bracket an dril some holes or use evga high flow braket Awards
WiZiD Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 804 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 446 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3600 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 1053 Achievement Points: 24386 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/28/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 26 Birthday: 04/25/1960 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 I also noticed that the covers you have on the empty slots on the back are vented. That would limit air flow thru the video card. The fasted air goes in through the front and out the back creates the air flow thru your case. Think of it like the wind chill factor up north. Even tho it is 32 degrees out side it feels like it way below 0 if it is windy. Thats the wind chill factor. So by blocking those holes with solid covers would make a faster flow of air thru your video card as air will take the least of the resistance way out. 5 vented covers. Also the top fan should be blowing in as well. All fans blowing in except the rear ones...Re paisting the GPU as KaptCrunch stated as well is a good idea...Fan speeds all the way up all the time... also a marvelous idea... I would not attempt drilling holes in my video cards but the do sell after market coolers that fit your card. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Nvidia-GTX470-465-VGA/dp/B0046U89XK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top And thats just one example. EVGA precision a great program to control fan speeds... http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVGA_Precision_d6209.html Good luck.. tsw 8.5 1 Awards
KaptCrunch Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4872 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4053 Achievement Points: 39427 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 51 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 WiZiD i drilled my 480 rear bracket and it dropped temps 20c off gpu for the caged fan puts out alot of air volume with stock exit bracet impedeing air flow Awards
Damage_inc- Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) larsin is correct the power supply is sucking air down and your gpu is doing the same in the opposite direction and sucking air up.leaving a vaccum and a fight for fresh air and your biggerfan on the powersupply wins..now your in a pickle...i would flip power supply upside down to draw air from under .cut access hole in bottom and install a safety screen and maybe elevate rig up higher -3/4 of an inch longer pegs to increase airflow under the case ....and put another fan infront and low in case..... Edited November 5, 2012 by Damage_inc- WiZiD 1 Awards
Damage_inc- Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Posted November 5, 2012 hey kinda looks like you have a bit of clearence under you power supply and a vent there too by the pics,so just flip it over already.the end Awards
baldie Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Author Posted November 5, 2012 Guy's you are amazing thank you for all your help I will take your advice and create better airflow through the comp. I did not even think that I could be causing the problems my self, but like most novices I thought having the fan at the top exhausting the air out the case would draw air away from my gpu and the fans on my cpu are also drawing air away as well so no wonder my GPU is overheating. Lesson learned lol Awards
simplemod Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 623 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 21 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1072 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 417 Achievement Points: 7809 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/24/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 27, 2018 Birthday: 10/26/1982 Posted November 5, 2012 I have to go against the top fan as intake. Heat naturally rises, and keeping it as an exhaust fan make more sense. But I do agree with turning the CPU fan so it pulls from front, and pushes out the back. And also using MSI Afterburner. My GTX560ti runs moderately warm, but I had noticed that the drivers were not turning the fan speeds up as temp increased. I have mine set to start raising fast, I can play all day long and temps stay under 135F, usually around 120F, but when in ICE bubble in freeze tag, the glow makes it heat up a little more. Just having afterburner control the fans, lowered my temps nearly 50F ingame. My temps had gone up after I had installed a second monitor. With just a single monitor there were no issues. And I have a very similar coolermaster case.
KaptCrunch Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4872 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4053 Achievement Points: 39427 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 51 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 Guy's you are amazing thank you for all your help I will take your advice and create better airflow through the comp. I did not even think that I could be causing the problems my self, but like most novices I thought having the fan at the top exhausting the air out the case would draw air away from my gpu and the fans on my cpu are also drawing air away as well so no wonder my GPU is overheating. Lesson learned lol i'd leave fans as are and plug all the rear slots with duct tape note the psu blows out the back not into case and change the video card bracket to high flow and make a divider out of constuction paper (yellow line) and leave an air gap so video card can breathe note CPU heatsink cover the ends so that air flows straight up to top exhaust fan i granntee that is set-up you can have the side cover on and enjoy gaming again Awards
ROCKAPE Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 4 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 172 Topic Count: 1107 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 5185 Content Per Day: 0.91 Reputation: 3127 Achievement Points: 43909 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 15 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 14 hours ago Birthday: 08/16/1967 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 You can increase graphics fan speed with rivatuner software its free you will probaly find the fan runs at stock 25% and can increase it up t0 100% although 50% would probably be fine. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/rivatuner_20_fan_speed_overclock_guide,1.html Awards
baldie Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Author Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) hi guys well its good news and bad I flipped over the power supply reversed the top fan to bring air into the case, Fitted a manual switch so I can really crank up the intake fan at the front. Now the bad I stripped down the graphics card to re-paste the heatsink so no problem untill I DESTROYED the cover by stepping on it so now I have had to improvise and to get round this I fitted another small exhaust fan on the back of the case which in theory should draw the Air across the graphics card and keep it cool... I also rewired all cables after these pics to give the best airflow through the case.. so I NOW HAVE A FRONT INTAKE FAN WITH ADJUSTABLE SPEED CONTROL A SIDE INTAKE FAN STRAIGHT ON TO GPU THE TOP FAN INTAKES NOW AND 2 REAR EXHAUST FANS TEMP NOW SITTING AT 20 DEG C / 68 DEG F ON IDLE Edited November 5, 2012 by baldie Awards
BattlewolF Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 2028 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1740 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 545 Achievement Points: 10637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 11, 2024 Birthday: 03/10/1963 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) look like your power supply is discharging its heat right into your vid card.also make sure the fan is working when you notice it over heating Yes your psu is not right turn it I have same case oke now i see you did next page i saw Now i read turn the top fan must blow out/ not in Only fan ho blows in is the front and side panel fan rest always out Edited November 5, 2012 by SkunK|NL Awards
fireurza Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 677 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1457 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 791 Achievement Points: 9890 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16, 2024 Birthday: 02/20/1986 Posted November 5, 2012 you could do what i do.... avoid nvidia like the plague baldie 1 Awards
LaRSin Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 45 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 981 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 9422 Content Per Day: 1.65 Reputation: 3730 Achievement Points: 68083 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 02/25/1951 Device: Windows Posted November 5, 2012 Ok Baldie I wish would hit me up on xfire and we can voice chat or TS 1) the top fan should always exhaust out.(heat rises) 2) The power supply is fine as long as it's getting air flow (fan down) 3) I would put 100 mm fan on the heat sink of the gpu blowing on it ( since the cover is broken) ,(use zip ties) (fan controlled if possible) try these and check you temps .. Awards
hackeklaus Posted November 5, 2012 Member ID: 1012 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 935 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 269 Achievement Points: 5547 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 8, 2020 Birthday: 11/23/1987 Posted November 5, 2012 i have the same card and newer ever had any issues with that one. not sure whats wrong with it. would be great to know wich fan blows in and wich out. may there is something wrong. Awards
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