HellTiger Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 23572 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 6 Topic Count: 336 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 1328 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1646 Achievement Points: 12762 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 28, 2018 Birthday: 07/03/1990 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I can download up to 100 MB/s. With my 7200 RPM Hard Drive I can only achieve speeds up to 50 MB/s. With my SSD I can get 100 MB/s. Download speeds can only be as fast as your hard drive's writing speed. I just thought this was interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Barron Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 190 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1794 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1775 Achievement Points: 14304 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Share Posted July 8, 2016 Thats not as such true. The main thing is what speeds your NIC card can support. Most default NIC cards are limited at 100mb/s and there is modern ones that can support 1000mbs (gigabit NIC cards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
HellTiger Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 23572 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 6 Topic Count: 336 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 1328 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1646 Achievement Points: 12762 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 28, 2018 Birthday: 07/03/1990 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 It is true. Also the fastest internet connection you can get for your home today is 1 GBPS which allows download speeds of 100 MB/s so you don't need a new NIC card to achieve your max speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JohnnyNashville Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 25938 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 343 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 1493 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 284 Achievement Points: 13299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/17/17 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 25, 2022 Birthday: 08/08/1961 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Meow!! Cat Fight!! I guess I will have to buy another 1T HDD and run it in raid 0 along with a new NIC card just to be the first to die.... johnny Slackernet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Toes Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 57 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27249 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Share Posted July 8, 2016 L!ckALotAPus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3349 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4088 Achievement Points: 45230 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 09:40 PM Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 8, 2016 I can download up to 100 MB/s. With my 7200 RPM Hard Drive I can only achieve speeds up to 50 MB/s. With my SSD I can get 100 MB/s. Download speeds can only be as fast as your hard drive's writing speed. I just thought this was interesting. I doubt you can download at 100 MB/s 1Mbps is .125 MBps https://www.checkyourmath.com/convert/data_rates/per_second/megabits_megabytes_per_second.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
HellTiger Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 23572 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 6 Topic Count: 336 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 1328 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1646 Achievement Points: 12762 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 28, 2018 Birthday: 07/03/1990 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) This is my internet speed. I can usually get 90 MB/s to 95 MB/s Edited July 8, 2016 by HellTigris YACCster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3349 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4088 Achievement Points: 45230 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 09:40 PM Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 8, 2016 This is my internet speed. I can usually get 90 MB/s to 95 MB/s I stand corrected! What you are really saying is that you have a slow ass drive. Here's the benchmark on my old 2012 laptop's internal: You'd need over 4 gigabit per second to max that one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
L!ckALotAPus Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 21216 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 20 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1695 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 1732 Achievement Points: 15803 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Birthday: 02/09/1966 Share Posted July 8, 2016 the only thing holding you back is your service provider! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightHammer02 Posted July 8, 2016 Member ID: 22608 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 410 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 263 Achievement Points: 6027 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 16, 2018 Birthday: 10/23/1983 Share Posted July 8, 2016 This is my internet speed. I can usually get 90 MB/s to 95 MB/s OMG I'm jealous!!! I get 30 down and 5 up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iboomboom Posted July 9, 2016 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 Gbps means 125 MBps notice the small b and big B. That's the theoretical maximum speed of the Ethernet physical layer. In reality when you factor in the OS lag and hardware imperfections you will endn up somewhere around 95 - 110 MBps. A 100 Mbps connection means 12.5 MBps of transfer speed. Your latest PCI E SSDs are capable of doing 2500 MBps in read speed, again that's bytes not bits. Just look at the specs here http://m.newegg.com/Product/Details?itemnumber=N82E16820147467 2500 MBps read is 20 Gbps. So essentially your network connection is not fast enough. YACCster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
fireurza Posted July 9, 2016 Member ID: 677 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1457 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 791 Achievement Points: 9890 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16 Birthday: 02/20/1986 Device: Windows Share Posted July 9, 2016 The fastest available internet speed right now is actually 2 Gbps. I know a couple of folks that have it... cost $300 a month. Comcast though showed off a 3 Gbps internet speed earlier this year. Also its not the NIC card or the hard drive that actually limit the download speed. Ram use to be part of the issue but with the data transfer rate of ddr4 it is no longer. Even a 7200 rpm hdd can handle around 150 MB/s. NIC can handle around 1000 MB/s nowadays. The hold up now is actually the motherboard itself but event that is going away. The reason you dont see downloads over 50 MB/s is because it is limited on the server side. Companies may have larger bandwidth but there is not a single company in the world that can process 10s of 1000s of downloads at 50 MB/s. Fiber optic technology is going to have to develop alot further than what we have today which is mostly just optic "relay" stations that clean and repeat the signal to extend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted July 9, 2016 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted July 9, 2016 I dont agree on that RAM argument that makes no sense. A DDR2 PC 8500 can do close too 8 Gbps realistically. RAM speeds matter more when your program data sits in memory and is being sent back and forth between the processor caches. A Game like bf4 keeps a lot of data in RAM which goes back and forth between the GPU and your CPU. Therefore that game performs vastly better on a faster PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted July 10, 2016 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3349 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4088 Achievement Points: 45230 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 09:40 PM Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 10, 2016 ... not the NIC card or the ... NIC is Network Interface Card, so is that a Network Interface Card Card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted July 10, 2016 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3349 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4088 Achievement Points: 45230 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 09:40 PM Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 10, 2016 1 Gbps means 125 MBps notice the small b and big B. That's the theoretical maximum speed of the Ethernet physical layer. In reality when you factor in the OS lag and hardware imperfections you will endn up somewhere around 95 - 110 MBps. A 100 Mbps connection means 12.5 MBps of transfer speed. Your latest PCI E SSDs are capable of doing 2500 MBps in read speed, again that's bytes not bits. Just look at the specs here http://m.newegg.com/Product/Details?itemnumber=N82E16820147467 2500 MBps read is 20 Gbps. So essentially your network connection is not fast enough. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
fireurza Posted July 10, 2016 Member ID: 677 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1457 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 791 Achievement Points: 9890 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16 Birthday: 02/20/1986 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2016 NIC is Network Interface Card, so is that a Network Interface Card Card? NIC stands for network interface controller... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
fireurza Posted July 10, 2016 Member ID: 677 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1457 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 791 Achievement Points: 9890 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16 Birthday: 02/20/1986 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2016 I dont agree on that RAM argument that makes no sense. A DDR2 PC 8500 can do close too 8 Gbps realistically. RAM speeds matter more when your program data sits in memory and is being sent back and forth between the processor caches. A Game like bf4 keeps a lot of data in RAM which goes back and forth between the GPU and your CPU. Therefore that game performs vastly better on a faster PC. The ram doesnt just move the data. It stores it and has several address permanently reserved.... Learned this part in my Assembler class... The file itself may only be 1 GB but the actually data that is transferred is a bit larger as it also includes locations of bits and addresses. Windows will automatically adjust the calculation when you see a download bar to show only the data pertaining to the actually file and not the injected data that is used in processing where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
fireurza Posted July 10, 2016 Member ID: 677 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1457 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 791 Achievement Points: 9890 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16 Birthday: 02/20/1986 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2016 http://techin.oureverydaylife.com/computer-memory-affect-internet-browsing-speed-21589.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
fireurza Posted July 10, 2016 Member ID: 677 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1457 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 791 Achievement Points: 9890 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16 Birthday: 02/20/1986 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2016 But as I said early the largest part of the slowdown is going to be the motherboard itself and the server which you are downloading from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted July 10, 2016 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2016 We are not discussing computer architecture here or instruction addressing schemes in CPU. I know what are the uses of RAM. I was simplifying the primary function in relation to this thread. Try this switch your HDD to programmable IO in Windows from DMA. Data from lower network layers goes to the upper layers in the ram and then passed to the hard drive via DMA. As I stated earlier even the older DDR2 is still way faster than any hard disk today so the possibility of RAM keeping you from hitting the max speeds is Unlikely. Why are you bringing the mother board in this? The OP suggested he can't get faster writes because his HDD is slow. Your download speeds depend on the server serving the content and your internet pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
NITRO Posted July 11, 2016 Member ID: 1095 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3639 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2460 Achievement Points: 24702 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 24 Birthday: 03/23/1979 Device: Android Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hang on fellas im just making some popcorn... iboomboom and Being 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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