Soon more technology like this will be known

[LtLaszlo]

I'm soon going to make one of these!

https://wayback.tube/video/2710/water-power-a-4-stroke-gasoline-petrol-engine?channelName=Admin

 

[TBB]

This still works

[Labob]

I own a bike have to peddale the basturd but goes down hill very nicely. Its free too my neighbour bought it .  

[LtLaszlo]

4 hours ago, TBB said:

This still works

Ya, trying moving an automobile with that!

[RobMc]

6 hours ago, TBB said:

This still works

Unlike most of your 'equipment' ? 

[TBB]

14 hours ago, RobMc said:

Unlike most of your 'equipment' ? 

Never had any complaints - especially from .......................

[chasing]

This is snake oil, in case it wasn't already obvious. You would actually be wasting more energy because now you're using it to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen, and putting the two back together (combustion) is never going to give you as much energy as it took to separate them (entropy and all that).

 

Edited June 19, 2022 by chasing
Forgot "much" between "as" and "energy"

[KaptCrunch]

1 hour ago, chasing said:

This is snake oil, in case it wasn't already obvious. You would actually be wasting more energy because now you're using it to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen, and putting the two back together (combustion) is never going to give you as energy as it took to separate them (entropy and all that).

 

i want you smart one

to light a cigarett near my charging lead / acid batteries

note charger is solar powered, 

inventor Nikola Tesla  had ran a car on static electricity an where is it now  

you nay sayers are brain washed 

Stanley was murdered for that reason .......a national threat to the greddy bastards  

https://youtu.be/ELkH3rXRQ1w

[J3st3r]

Yea that's fake as fuck.

No flow regulation or pressure regulation in regards to throttle position. And the output of that small of a Hydrogen reactor would barely produce enough fuel to burn let alone run an engine.

 

Electrolysis is pretty cool for removing rust off of metal parts. The Sacrificial Diode material gets quickly eaten as the rust gets pulled from the part to the Diode. BTW that was Epsom Salt that he put in it to increase the Conductivity of the water. I used to have a 50 gallon plastic drum Electrolysis tank which I used to remove rust from old Tractor parts years ago. 

   

And I know for a fact that those cheap ass Chinese carburetors on those Honda Clone Generator engines are Not adjustable. Even if it were adjustable, adjusting the Metering screws would do absolutely fucking Nothing unless you are running gasoline. The Metering screws adjust the fuel flow from the Float Bowl of the Carburetor to the Jets which partly atomize the fuel to allow it to burn efficiently. To Lean and the engine will overheat and blow up. To Rich and it will foul the spark plug after only a few minutes.

I know some shit when it comes to engines. Been working on them since I was old enough to walk. Dad used to bring me old QuadraJet and Thermoquad and old Zenith carbs from work to tear down, clean and rebuild when I was a little fella barely tall enough to fit a 20" bicycle.  

 

 

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.  Same Bullshit thing as a Permanent Magnet motor producing enough Power to not only keep running but to produce usable power. It takes power to Make power. No motor is, or ever will be able to produce more power than it uses.               

[KaptCrunch]

9 minutes ago, J3st3r said:

Yea that's fake as fuck.

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.  Same Bullshit thing as a Permanent Magnet motor producing enough Power to not only keep running but to produce usable power. It takes power to Make power. No motor is, or ever will be able to produce more power than it uses.               

correct on power 

like need magnetic field and wire + alternator  and gas from engine keeps the car going an charge battery for next start 

1 thing for sure is solar power 

[chasing]

21 hours ago, KaptCrunch said:

i want you smart one

to light a cigarett near my charging lead / acid batteries

note charger is solar powered, 

inventor Nikola Tesla  had ran a car on static electricity an where is it now  

you nay sayers are brain washed 

Stanley was murdered for that reason .......a national threat to the greddy bastards  

https://youtu.be/ELkH3rXRQ1w

I'm not sure what exactly it is you're saying, but it is simply a fact of life: energy can neither be created nor destroyed. All that can be done is convert energy from one form to another and that is never going to be 100% efficient. Even if perfect efficiency was possible, you still wouldn't be gaining energy, just not losing it.

Regarding Tesla's supposed static electricity car, that too is BS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla_electric_car_hoax

Edited June 20, 2022 by chasing
Changed "transfer" to "convert" in second sentence

[KaptCrunch]

Hmmm when i hear hoax, is someone is pulling the wool over you  making money of the kill 

[KaptCrunch]

21 minutes ago, chasing said:

I'm not sure what exactly it is you're saying, but it is simply a fact of life: energy can neither be created nor destroyed. All that can be done is transfer energy from one form to another and that is never going to be 100% efficient. Even if perfect efficiency was possible, you still wouldn't be gaining energy, just not losing it.

Regarding Tesla's supposed static electricity car, that too is BS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla_electric_car_hoax

then what is Niagara Fall about .......is anybody paying the water to fall on the turbines of genarators.....   solar  power ? 

Edited June 19, 2022 by KaptCrunch
i see the water is still falling and the lights are still on since 1922

[KaptCrunch]

@chasing  100 yrs and the pwoer still there 

can you explain how it still working ? 

Edited June 19, 2022 by KaptCrunch

[chasing]

16 minutes ago, KaptCrunch said:

correct on power 

like need magnetic field and wire + alternator  and gas from engine keeps the car going an charge battery for next start 

1 thing for sure is solar power 

I have nothing against solar power, but nuclear power is what we should be investing more time and money into.

 

[chasing]

36 minutes ago, KaptCrunch said:

then what is Niagara Fall about .......is anybody paying the water to fall on the turbines of genarators.....   solar  power ? 

Right. Solar power heats the water in the oceans causing it to evaporate and fall on other parts of the Earth, often in locations with a height difference. The water then flows downhill which we put a turbine in between and get electricity. It all started from solar radiation though.

Edited June 19, 2022 by chasing
Fixed typo

[TheLastColdBeer]

I like the premise, but I have to agree on its' viability. He's not showing how many amps it takes to split the water, how much hydrogen is produced, and in what time frame. Blocked off half the air intake of the carburetor, so you can count on a massive reduction in HP output. Also doesn't go into detail what HH+ is, or its' availability. Having run engines on alcohol, you can bet you'll fill your oil sump with water running hydrogen. Oil survival is going to be sketchy at best.

I'm still a fan of wood gasification. Simple vessels, not much for carburation other than a mixing chamber & butterfly valve. You'll get about 60% total output compared to gasoline, but running a stationary engine is no problem. Cleaning & cooling the gas is a pain, but doing without electricity is much worse.

300w per mile, 70miles an hour x one hour. That equation will kill any ideas you have about electric powered vehicles.

[Labob]

Sail boat can  go 4 times faster than the wind pushing them . That's efficient 

[TheLastColdBeer]

22 hours ago, Labob said:

Sail boat can  go 4 times faster than the wind pushing them . That's efficient 

Not close hauled with a square rig, you aren't. The wind has a will of its' own, you're just making the best use of it. Kind estimate for power consumption of an electric car is 300w per mile, air/heater radio on. Average commuter drives 35 miles/day. 10.5kw used, 47.7amps @220v to recharge for an hour. Much longer if you don't have a dedicated 50a circuit. 

[Labob]

23 minutes ago, TheLastColdBeer said:

Not close hauled with a square rig, you aren't. The wind has a will of its' own

Agree these boats are foils not sails . But it shows what thinking can do. Through design and innovation using what is already available they can get a boat to go 3 to 4 times faster the the power pushing them . So it might be possible to get wind powered generators to make more if not the same amount of energy as what is being used to create the energy. 

[RobMc]

You all know how caring to the planet is Green Rob don't you ?, so I had a think about this and a Nobel Prize looms on the horizon :-

Renewable energy

I read somewhere that animal poop produces methane which is hurting the ozone layer.

We need to have a potty training session for all animals to harness this untapped gold, I'll start on the dogs and cats and Wildthing on the lions and tigers.

Once we've got them all shitting in harmony into special sewage farms we can tap off this methane, and use it for personkinds (used to be mankinds pre woke) benefit. This methane could power ships and lorries to carry the crops produced by heating green houses full of grain. This grain could then be fed to the animals and the cycle restarted, pure brilliance.

So please join Rob Greens save the world campaign by buying one of his 'Who Gives a Shit' T shirts, available soon at a store near you.

Also coming soon :-

Plastic dung car hood/bonnet ornaments

Posters - 'Save the world - stamp on a dung beetle', and 'You talk shit now buy some'

Dolls that defecate so little girls can tell Mummy they are saving the world with a sweet smile

Dung sauce for that truly Green BBQ party, most appetising

and many more items on special offer

and the new campaign motto 'A fart a day keeps starvation at bay'

I'm on a winner here, especially in these forums

 

[TBB]

3 hours ago, RobMc said:

You all know how caring to the planet is Green Rob don't you ?, so I had a think about this and a Nobel Prize looms on the horizon :-

Renewable energy

I read somewhere that animal poop produces methane which is hurting the ozone layer.

We need to have a potty training session for all animals to harness this untapped gold, I'll start on the dogs and cats and Wildthing on the lions and tigers.

Once we've got them all shitting in harmony into special sewage farms we can tap off this methane, and use it for personkinds (used to be mankinds pre woke) benefit. This methane could power ships and lorries to carry the crops produced by heating green houses full of grain. This grain could then be fed to the animals and the cycle restarted, pure brilliance.

So please join Rob Greens save the world campaign by buying one of his 'Who Gives a Shit' T shirts, available soon at a store near you.

Also coming soon :-

Plastic dung car hood/bonnet ornaments

Posters - 'Save the world - stamp on a dung beetle', and 'You talk shit now buy some'

Dolls that defecate so little girls can tell Mummy they are saving the world with a sweet smile

Dung sauce for that truly Green BBQ party, most appetising

and many more items on special offer

and the new campaign motto 'A fart a day keeps starvation at bay'

I'm on a winner here, especially in these forums

 

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet - he got old of the bad stuff again    

[Sammy]

On 6/20/2022 at 6:19 AM, Labob said:

Sail boat can  go 4 times faster than the wind pushing them . That's efficient 

Of course 99.9999% of the people cant use sail boats to go buy their groceries. Or their jobs.

[KaptCrunch]

3 hours ago, Sammy said:

Of course 99.9999% of the people cant use sail boats to go buy their groceries. Or their jobs.

but great for illeagal aliens to enter the shores of America

[TheLastColdBeer]

Monty Python Rob, what's brown & sounds like a bell? 

 

Dung........

I'm all for new ideas, but practical application is the boogeyman that's held things back for centuries. Nature came up with the perfect storage device, hydrocarbons & carbohydrates. Energy production isn't a problem, but storage of energy is. Come up with a new wheel, and you're the winner.