OddJob001 Posted May 4, 2012 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) http://www.reddit.co...mation_for_the/ Hi, I'm a BF3 Player. One who 'hacks'. Some background : When I'm legitimate (not hacking) I'm a ~400 SPM player, an active member of the reddit forums, and everything I'm about to write is absolutely true. We've all met hackers in game. However, an IRL friend I know plays online games only to hack them. He introduced me to a relatively cheap, fairly well known and undetectable BF3 hack. I noted it's existence, but didn't use it, or think much about it - until one day a few months ago. I was on caspian, and a opposing sniper was clearly hacking. On a short ticket server he was 100-4 or so and was able to kill me across the map with impossible shots. I was infuriated, and in a bad mood. I cracked. I went to the hack website my friend had shown me, bought the hack, and over the course of a few days learned to use it. Here's the information I think the community at large ought to know. The hack works by injecting some code into the game as it launches. As such, no files on your computer are altered in any way. I don't have a mass of technical knowledge, but I know this keeps PB and DICE/EA from being able to detect it. The executable for the hack doesn't even exist on your computer: You use a java applet to log in, and it loads it directly into memory and you launch the game afterwards. The hack's capabilities are immense, and highly configurable. There are so many options. The most notable ones are: I can see the entire enemy team on the map, spotted, with ranges - all the time. I can see who is aiming at me at any time, and the QUALITY of that aiming. (Remember this, I'll get to it's importance later) I can set the hack to aim-bot on the push of a button, or all the time - or none. I can also set it to fire for me - but only when my crosshair is over a space that will result in a kill. I can set the hack key-binds, to toggle any option In the hack. I can choose head, body, foot, or variable shots, as well as no spread. I can set the hack so that ANY amount of damage kills a player (no matter where the bullet hits), a.k.a. 'Uberdamage' I can set the hack to spot all members of the enemy team every so often, for the benefit of my entire team (spothacking). Finally, I can kill the entire other team with a touch of a button. They update the hack constantly. It only takes hours between a patch and a new injectible updated version. The aim-bot specifically is extremely customizable: It can be set to only force aim at slow or fast or any speed in between on button press: It can snap to the closest enemy, or the one I have closest to my crosshair. There are many more options, including being able to FULLY customize the weapons (including vehicles) and others. Also - you can customize it so that all this information is invisible. None of this shows up on the PB screenshots. So after I got my hack all set up, I found the hacker, and went into his server, and began killing the shit out of him. At first, I just murdered everyone on my way to him, but once I became more skilled with the hack, I just used the 3-d and 2-d radars, along with the feature that showed me who was looking in my direction, to avoid the enemy team, and just kill the hacker. He rage-quit pretty quick. This lead to my next finding, as I turned on the hack when I suspected someone of hacking. There are many, many more people using some feature or form of this hack(or a similar one) on almost every server than I thought possible. What I mean by that Is I found that on nearly every 64 man server, during the course of a two round span, it's almost a certainty that someone is hacking - and most times more. Here's how I was able to know (not surmise) that people were hacking. The hack can be set so that when you aim near someone (whether you have line of sight or not), it will show you how close they are aiming to you - in a percentage. 100% means that they are aiming at you, perfectly. Running around, watching people, I could instantly see some issues. As you would imagine, holding a 100% aim on a moving target is nearly impossible. But I found people, time and again, who, once they 'took notice' of me - Could hold that 100% as long as they wanted. In other words, they were seeing me (in many cases across the map from spawn, through buildings and the like) as soon as I spawned - and they had me dialed in, even as I ran, and changed directions. They were using their own hack to hold an aim on my head, as they got into range/line of sight. But furthermore, I started to notice something with lots of the vehicles and aircraft: plenty of those would be flying around, but as soon as they got anywhere near me, the aim percentage would go from 0% straight to 100% - and not release until they had fired all their rockets/guns/etc. This also revealed very excellent players in some cases being accused of hacking, weren't hacking. You could detect in the aim if it was 'human' or not. These cases, while fairly rare, did exist. Another clear way to tell is if someone was using the hack, is if I could sneak up on someone. Amazing players can be surprised, if you have the advantage of knowing where their entire team is, and what direction they are running and looking, at least some of the time. Hackers using the radar functions cannot be surprised. It was a dead giveaway I did this for a month, before I removed my subscription to the hack, worrying that I would be stat-wiped, or banned. But during the month, I did a lot of looking into the profiles and statistics of the people I found to be hacking beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I reported a boatload of profiles (to nearly no avail) . Here's what I've found- (and mind you , this is a month of playing, I found maybe 100 people that were clearly and undeniably hacking for the above stated reasons). Take this with a grain of salt, sample sizes and unscientific record keeping means these numbers could be 10-20% (maybe even more?) off. If you are over 700 SPM, you are probably (50-60% of the time) hacking. If you are over 900 SPM, the number is even higher- perhaps as high as 70%. The vast majority of hackers aren't using most features of their respective hacks, the most popular hack I saw was the 'radar' or spothack. Aimbots are the second most popular - especially among snipers and engineers. Moreover, almost all hackers are 'closet' hackers. They aren't obvious. Also, I would call these people out, and almost universally they would turn it off instantly. (example, I find a hacker, call him one over chat, and he would call me a noob, or insult me. But after that, the hack in most cases would be disengaged - and often the person would leave the next round.) Most people using hacks, once they turn them off, are no good. In fact, a reasonably good person (250~ spm or above) , given this hack, is absolutely unstoppable. I could easily go into a 64 man server, and have a KDR of 20-1 or more in that round, against even insanely good players. Metro is a massive hotbed for hackers, as well as 64 man instant vehicle servers. I'm doing this because I want to convey to all of you the scope of the issue we face. Ask me anything about the hack/hackers in question. I'm not going to release the website , unless it's to a EA / DICE related person over PM - I don't want the hacks to spread any more than they do. Edited May 4, 2012 by OddJob001 Sweatnbullets, pancakes and Evil-Monkey 3
Cavey Posted May 4, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted May 4, 2012 but why I ask? I just can't understand why people want to. It spoils the game for themselevs aswell. They must get bored of winning all the time, and not having that great feeling of a challenge! I just don't understand this mentality. Merlin007 1
Damit1 Posted May 4, 2012 Member ID: 1188 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 258 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1692 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 1355 Achievement Points: 15036 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 21, 2024 Device: Android Posted May 4, 2012 interesting read. Awards
xCaliber Posted May 4, 2012 Member ID: 142 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 30 Topic Count: 277 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1986 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 13866 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 25, 2014 Birthday: 05/01/1985 Posted May 4, 2012 interesting stuff Oddjob.. anyway lol good game yesterday in the tank.. you rolled the tank and killed 6 ppl with it hahahahahahah OddJob001 1
OddJob001 Posted May 4, 2012 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Author Posted May 4, 2012 So now im like 6 posts away from joining you guys 5 after this one. haha
Cavey Posted May 4, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted May 4, 2012 So now im like 6 posts away from joining you guys 5 after this one. haha Um you just admitted to installing and using a hack. I don't think XI clan would allow it. google and BeerGoat 2
xCaliber Posted May 5, 2012 Member ID: 142 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 30 Topic Count: 277 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1986 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 13866 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 25, 2014 Birthday: 05/01/1985 Posted May 5, 2012 So now im like 6 posts away from joining you guys 5 after this one. haha Um you just admitted to installing and using a hack. I don't think XI clan would allow it. lol I dont think that was his post .. he is just showing us ..thats what I understood .. BeerGoat and tsw 8.5 2
Cavey Posted May 5, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted May 5, 2012 So now im like 6 posts away from joining you guys 5 after this one. haha Um you just admitted to installing and using a hack. I don't think XI clan would allow it. lol I dont think that was his post .. he is just showing us ..thats what I understood .. lol I know, I was just teasing I've played against OddJob and is a nice person. xCaliber 1
xCaliber Posted May 5, 2012 Member ID: 142 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 30 Topic Count: 277 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1986 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 13866 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 25, 2014 Birthday: 05/01/1985 Posted May 5, 2012 lol you scared me Cavey
OddJob001 Posted May 5, 2012 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Author Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) So now im like 6 posts away from joining you guys 5 after this one. haha Um you just admitted to installing and using a hack. I don't think XI clan would allow it. I am hacker. I hack world. Hackerz. H.O.P.E. yaaaa. lol - if I did, i pray to god my stats would be better than they are. lalz. really though, this was a repost from a post on reddit. It was pretty interesting to read and thought I would share it with you all. in addition someone posted videos of what the hack actually looks like. here you go: http://www.youtube.c...v=3UuYNwx7w20#! absolutely crazy. Edited May 5, 2012 by OddJob001
google Posted May 5, 2012 Member ID: 1270 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 149 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3864 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 4548 Achievement Points: 34203 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/22/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 26 Birthday: 04/12/1969 Device: Windows Posted May 5, 2012 "...a thief will eventually to end up in prison.." Awards
Sweatnbullets Posted May 29, 2012 Member ID: 213 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 820 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 521 Achievement Points: 5654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 16 Birthday: 06/06/1963 Device: Windows Posted May 29, 2012 Well I'm getting really Fucking Sick of this Shit, Daily now instead of weekly, someone is on with a spot hack and wasting everyone, then us poor folks in teamspeak have to listen to the whining, YES I WHINE now, which sucks. We have maximus hackimus on our servers today, and wins every round with a 496 score per minute with limited hours. He has 30 kills more than everyone nearly every round. But our Admins wont kick him, everyone complains, the game becomes hostile and not Fun, Just one example of many lately. THE ONLY FIX FOR THIS is to play with XI only, and just have one server. Or the other Fix is Mostly XI on a server, and no outsiders with a Score per minute of over 450 allowed.XI"S BEST doesnt score that high... No one is that friggin good that really needs to spoil our fun needs access to our server, they can play elsewhere, who cares if someone is offended, we have enough players. They can justify theyre Hack, I only use spot hack, never aimbot...etc, but its fucking sad what a shitty person they must be in real life. Goddamn liars. Also constantly joking about hacking on teamspeak is bullshit, it only enables them to justify they hack cause others must be hacking " We talk about it all the time" And dont call me a hacker, my score per minute is rock bottom and it pisses me off, I would never cheat, I hate people like that, rick james types all of em. Sonovabich, Evil-Monkey , google and 1 other 4 Awards
Sonovabich Posted May 29, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted May 29, 2012 That answers some questions i had about getting sniped anyway, i play TDM a lot which means it is usually mostly run and gun and some of these snipers have outrageous scores, many times you want to question the shot and have a good whine about it but just stay quiet and bite your lip. coolmd 1
OddJob001 Posted May 29, 2012 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Author Posted May 29, 2012 I hardly ever accuse anyone of hacking. There are blatant hackers that you know are hacking and are usually kicked immediately. However its the hackers that use the cheats to just barely get a step ahead of us. I am usually the last person to accuse someone of hacking. I have no issues with people have high SPM. SPM is usually related directly to time played. If you divide the two categories out almost all players are right around 1:1 for SPM vs Time played. Its the people that have a SPM that is twice the ratio of 1:1 that I question. Or accuracy around or above 20%.
Sweatnbullets Posted February 3, 2013 Member ID: 213 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 820 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 521 Achievement Points: 5654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 16 Birthday: 06/06/1963 Device: Windows Posted February 3, 2013 I hate reading this again, It just makes me mad, again. If ya need to cheat go to a Casino and make yourself some money at least. I hope No one in this clan cheats, not even a little bit, I wish some Admin would get this hack and spy on every member with it, and Report the findings.. Maybe the players who always kick ass could get some peace from all their DOUBTERS.. My kind of advantage I like is to spend gobs of money on a new PC. Awards
7Toes Posted February 3, 2013 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted February 3, 2013 give the hack info to pb and ea and origin they might be able to find a way to detect it pancakes 1 Awards
pancakes Posted February 3, 2013 Member ID: 2395 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 800 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 217 Achievement Points: 5471 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10, 2024 Birthday: 07/22/1994 Posted February 3, 2013 give the hack info to pb and ea and origin they might be able to find a way to detect it i agree Awards
WalkingDead Posted February 4, 2013 Member ID: 4002 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 27 Achievement Points: 438 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 20, 2015 Birthday: 01/14/1983 Posted February 4, 2013 This was a good read. Im sure the hack has evolved quite a bit over the last 6 months so who knows what it looks like or is capable of now.
Evil-Monkey Posted February 4, 2013 Member ID: 221 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1865 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 751 Achievement Points: 12313 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 06/10/1967 Device: iPhone Posted February 4, 2013 give the hack info to pb and ea and origin they might be able to find a way to detect it i agree +1 this explains alot i know i am not a good player but. but reading this really pisses me off PB and ea should do all that is possible to make the game as clean as possible i know this not going to happen it almost makes me not want to game anymore.(just not fun) but hopefully we as a community can make them fix this crap. Awards
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