BUDMAN Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 137 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6974 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 4513 Achievement Points: 58561 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Online Last Seen: 8 minutes ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted February 18, 2014 So Techno hacks.... I thought so .....j/kING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iEvil Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 111 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 44 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 425 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 175 Achievement Points: 2934 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 4 Birthday: 07/12/1971 Device: Android Share Posted February 18, 2014 because we dont visit hack websites doesnt mean we like to have our privacy violated, and u shouldnt agree to that except if u love 1984 style of society. I honestly dont care, if they want to monitor me go ahead, all those secret things I might do in life dont occur on the internet. Seems after that NSA affair with Edward Snowden, no one goes safe from anything regardless of rules or privacy acts. I can do understand that people gets upset about it thou. Sonovabich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
ChknFngr Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 922 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3472 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1286 Achievement Points: 23224 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 16, 2021 Birthday: 10/01/1975 Share Posted February 18, 2014 u are good at explaining people dont need no privacy because well they are criminals out there. this is not the society we want to live in, sorry not the browser history but the ip and the dns records, well to me its basically the same, they dont have to look at my dns records at all. search the programs im running WHEN IM PLAYING ... OK fine. Why would u have to look at my DNS records ? there is no reason to do this. except tto violate my privacy. this is not about anti-cheat cmon open your eyes. this has nothing to do with hacks. and no matter what, u will always have cheaters, always, and thats why a vast majority are banned anyway. but never has to have a look at dns records to ban someone, never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TecHnOBoY Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Let me show you what happens-First:I flushed the DNS Cache with ipconfig /flushdns so it is completely empty: C:\Users\Administrator>ipconfig /flushdns Windows IP Configuration Successfully flushed the DNS Resolver Cache. To verify that the cache is empty i executed ipconfig /displaydns C:\Users\Administrator>ipconfig /displaydns Windows IP Configuration Could not display the DNS Resolver Cache. C:\Users\Administrator> Next step: I visited http://www.yahoo.comAnd that's what Valve would see now if they read my DNS Cache: C:\Users\Administrator>ipconfig /displaydns Windows IP Configuration de.video.search.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.video.search.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 26 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : global.l7.search.ystg1.b.yahoo.com de.video.search.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.video.search.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 26 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : global.l7.search.ystg1.b.yahoo.com l.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 27 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net l.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 27 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net login.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : login.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 24 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : login-global.lgg1.b.yahoo.com login.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : login.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 24 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : login-global.lgg1.b.yahoo.com locdrop.query.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : locdrop.query.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 203 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : cache.internal.query.yahoo.com locdrop.query.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : locdrop.query.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 203 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : cache.internal.query.yahoo.com ocsp.godaddy.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : ocsp.godaddy.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 13 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : ocsp.godaddy.com.akadns.net ocsp.godaddy.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : ocsp.godaddy.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 13 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : ocsp.godaddy.com.akadns.net addons.mozilla.org ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : addons.mozilla.org Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 49 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : addons.dynect.mozilla.net addons.mozilla.org ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : addons.mozilla.org Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 49 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : addons.dynect.mozilla.net de.shopping.yahoo.net ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.shopping.yahoo.net Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 1798 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : euapi.nextag.com de.shopping.yahoo.net ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.shopping.yahoo.net Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 1797 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : euapi.nextag.com yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 1791 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 98.139.183.24 Record Name . . . . . : yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 1791 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 206.190.36.45 Record Name . . . . . : yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 1791 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 98.138.253.109 yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- No records of type AAAA help.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : help.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 111 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : geoycpi-uno.gycpi.b.yahoodns.net help.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : help.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 111 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : geoycpi-uno.gycpi.b.yahoodns.net ocsp.thawte.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : ocsp.thawte.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 5 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : ocsp.ws.symantec.com.edgekey.net ocsp.thawte.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : ocsp.thawte.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 5 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : ocsp.ws.symantec.com.edgekey.net info.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : info.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 191 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : fd-geoycpi-uno-deluxe.gycpi.b.yahoodns. info.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : info.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 191 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : fd-geoycpi-uno-deluxe.gycpi.b.yahoodns. mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : mail.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 28 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : login.yahoo.com mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : mail.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 28 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : login.yahoo.com www.mozilla.org ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : www.mozilla.org Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 11 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : mozorg.dynect.mozilla.net www.mozilla.org ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : www.mozilla.org Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 11 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : mozorg.dynect.mozilla.net de.search.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.search.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 32 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : global.l7.search.ystg1.b.yahoo.com de.search.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.search.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 32 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : global.l7.search.ystg1.b.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : www.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 51 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : fd-fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : www.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 51 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : fd-fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com script.ioam.de ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : script.ioam.de Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 593 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 91.215.103.64 Record Name . . . . . : script.ioam.de Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 593 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 91.215.100.37 Record Name . . . . . : script.ioam.de Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 593 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 91.215.101.35 script.ioam.de ---------------------------------------- No records of type AAAA open.login.yahoo.net ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : open.login.yahoo.net Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 49 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : open.login.yahoo.com open.login.yahoo.net ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : open.login.yahoo.net Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 49 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : open.login.yahoo.com clicks.beap.bc.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : clicks.beap.bc.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 294 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : beapcsc1.ysm.yahoodns.net clicks.beap.bc.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : clicks.beap.bc.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 294 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : beapcsc1.ysm.yahoodns.net l1.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l1.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 52 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net l1.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l1.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 52 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net de.news.search.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.news.search.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 295 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : global.l7.search.ystg1.b.yahoo.com de.news.search.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.news.search.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 295 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : global.l7.search.ystg1.b.yahoo.com secure.informaction.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : secure.informaction.com Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 56043 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 69.195.141.178 Record Name . . . . . : secure.informaction.com Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 56043 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 82.103.140.40 Record Name . . . . . : secure.informaction.com Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 56043 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 82.103.140.42 Record Name . . . . . : secure.informaction.com Record Type . . . . . : 1 Time To Live . . . . : 56043 Data Length . . . . . : 4 Section . . . . . . . : Answer A (Host) Record . . . : 69.195.141.179 secure.informaction.com ---------------------------------------- No records of type AAAA l3.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l3.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 40 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net l3.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l3.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 40 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net l2.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l2.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 40 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net l2.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l2.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 40 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net l4.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l4.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 26 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net l4.yimg.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : l4.yimg.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 26 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : l.gycs.b.yahoodns.net de.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 21 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : fd-fp2.wg1.b.yahoo.com de.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------- Record Name . . . . . : de.yahoo.com Record Type . . . . . : 5 Time To Live . . . . : 21 Data Length . . . . . : 8 Section . . . . . . . : Answer CNAME Record . . . . : fd-fp2.wg1.b.yahoo.com C:\Users\Administrator> They can see - the website(s) I visied- other records for servers that I connected to because there are embedded ads, videos, scripts or something else.I guess they try to find domains of suspected websites that provide updates for cheat programs. But this is useless if the tool connects to IP addresses instead of domain names. This wouldn't appear in your DNS cache as there is no resolving of a hostname needed.AND Valve would not only use your DNS cache to ban you. The cahce content is one piece of a puzzle to help determine a hacker.and FU @@BUDMAN eidolonFIRE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
ChknFngr Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 922 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3472 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1286 Achievement Points: 23224 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 16, 2021 Birthday: 10/01/1975 Share Posted February 18, 2014 yes its useless to determine if u hack or not, thats why im saying its not about hacks, its about money and its about violating people's privacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
spinpuppy Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 3682 Group: ++ COD5 Admin Followers: 56 Topic Count: 178 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1834 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1747 Achievement Points: 14780 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/27/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 01/12/1960 Device: Android Share Posted February 18, 2014 All they would see in mine is midget porn ......but I cleared it. Thanks for the tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TheCheeseyCrusader Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 88 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 248 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3489 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1848 Achievement Points: 22939 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 18 hours ago Birthday: 11/13/1991 Device: Android Share Posted February 18, 2014 I dont mind sharing my Porn with the cheat system or with Gabe newell P!nk and Sonovabich 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TecHnOBoY Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) The DNS system is very complex. But there are a few parts that are important to know in this case: 1. The resolver cache is written to your RAM. A reboot clears it 2. Each DNS entry has a Time-To-Live, an expiry date so to say. (In seconds). Every resolver cache will store the DNS for exactly for the given time. DNS is like a phone book. Let's say http://google.com has 1.2.3.4 as phone number (IP address) and a TTL of 300 seconds (5 Minutes). The first time you visit google.com your PC will ask the name server that is configured in your network settings. (Mostly a server on the internet or your router Is configured to be your DNS-Server and will forward your DNS-Request to servers on the internet that you or your provider have configured on the router.) The DNS-Server asnwers your question with: google.com = 1.2.3.4 Your PC now does the following: A: it contacts the phone number (IP) and shows the website B: it stores the phone number in your local cache but Google allows to store this number for only 300 seconds only So if you visit google.com again within these 300 second your PC will use the local cached IP address. If you visit google again after 301 seconds again your PC will search the local cache but won't find the IP as the TTL has expired and the cache entry had been deleted. You PC asks the name server that is configured in your network settings. This is (simplified) how a DNS resolver manages DNS requests. All work the same way. Your local resolver in Windows as well as a resolver on the internet. There is no need to be worried about your privacy. Have a look at the bunch of cached entries in my last post. I did nothing more than open Firefox and visit yahoo.com. You will not find more information than "oh, he visited yahoo". Yes of course, the would see if I visited a sex store. But what did I look for? Strings? Bras? Toys? Porn? Gay stuff? Simple answer: they don't see it. They now I was there, that's all. Big secret I am sure that they are not interested in this information. They would lose reputation. @@ChknFngr You are anxious about your privacy because they see domain names. Do you have a smartphone? If yes: what kind of smartphone and what kind of OS? Edited February 18, 2014 by TecHnOBoY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Twinkie 13 Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 3003 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 352 Achievement Points: 3623 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 hours ago Birthday: 03/17/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted February 18, 2014 Ive got an Iphone. I have come to the understanding that everything that you do that can be spied on will be spied on by the government. That being said since the government is listening....FUck U! Governments fall all the time but the people live on. ChknFngr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
ChknFngr Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 922 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3472 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1286 Achievement Points: 23224 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 16, 2021 Birthday: 10/01/1975 Share Posted February 18, 2014 @@ChknFngr You are anxious about your privacy because they see domain names. Do you have a smartphone? If yes: what kind of smartphone and what kind of OS? no im not anxious about anything they could find on my computer, im anxious about the big brother society we ALLOW and most idiot dont CARE about. its not about MY privacy, its about the system and the fact that we allow people we dont know at all to have a look at what we do in our private life. this is not right. see they are talking here about changing the way they tax cars. and they want us to put a gps tracker that will analyse all our moves (with records and all) and therefore tax us by the kms we do each month or so. this is the same kind of bs we dont want because it violate our privacy. it really isnt right at all that anyone from a cop to a government tax worker can and know where u go, at what time and all. this is really 1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sitting-Duc Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41341 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 06:57 PM Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Windows Share Posted February 18, 2014 When I read your first response I thought it was a misunderstanding of the system, I see it's more about society and politics now lol.. count me out.. Sonovabich and ViPRZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
ChknFngr Posted February 18, 2014 Member ID: 922 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3472 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1286 Achievement Points: 23224 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 16, 2021 Birthday: 10/01/1975 Share Posted February 18, 2014 yes it is, thank you and technoboy for all the technical infos there, i knew the basic not as much as u do, but yea its more of a politic problem than a technical one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TecHnOBoY Posted February 19, 2014 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) @@ChknFngr I totally agree. See Facebook, Google and others. They don't care about your privacy. Especially Google says: your private data is secure. Of course. Recently they started to encrypt the traffic between their data centers. "For your security". In their case It's all about their money. They are not only interested in protecting your private data. But what Valve does is completely different. They make enough money with Steam. I've heard that they receive a commission of up to 30% per sold game. There's no need to use your private data to earn more money. For me it would be ok if they use the data from my DNS cache toplace in game ads for products I am interested in. Why not? But it's not ok how Google or Facebook handle my private data. And regarding the NSA, GCHQ and all the other Intelligence: there is nothing you can do. If they want your data, they will get it. You can make life hard for them by encrypting mails, chats or using anonymizing services like the Tor network. But they will get you. True story: A german student announced a "walk" to one of the NSA locations here in Germany. He didn't call it a protest, just a walk along their complex. A few hours later someone rang his door bell. Guess who... The US military police. They advised him to rethink his walk to avoid "unforeseen consequences". A few minutes after they left, the next few people rang the bell: the German state police. They advised him to rethink his "walk" too or that he should register it at least as a protest walk with the local authorities. This scares me. Edited February 19, 2014 by TecHnOBoY ChknFngr and eidolonFIRE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Twinkie 13 Posted February 19, 2014 Member ID: 3003 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 352 Achievement Points: 3623 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 hours ago Birthday: 03/17/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted February 19, 2014 All governments are evil. They exist to keep the population in check. Some check are good but for the most part they have their own interest up front instead of the people. Case in point here in the U.S. there are certain immigration laws that have been on the books for years that the government chooses to ignore. As long as people run governments they will be corrupt. And you have to have people. We are our own worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
ChknFngr Posted February 19, 2014 Member ID: 922 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3472 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1286 Achievement Points: 23224 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 16, 2021 Birthday: 10/01/1975 Share Posted February 19, 2014 yea thats scary, i wont go too far on this forum, but what i see from my angle is really sad, and im really not sure we could one day fix this bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hypn0t1k Posted February 19, 2014 Member ID: 20914 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 38 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 27 Achievement Points: 246 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2015 Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted February 19, 2014 http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2014/02/18/valve-dns-cache/1 Didn't look hard enough to pull the reddit thread itself but Gabe responded with more information about what VAC is actually doing and what they're doing with the data. The short of it is it sounds like they scrape your DNS cache data for domains linked to known hacks. Could they be gathering and using that data? Sure why not but so could any executable or javascript you run on your computer. If you have Java/Javascript enabled on your browser you're already leaking all your information online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecHnOBoY Posted February 19, 2014 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted February 19, 2014 No way, forget it. As @@Sgt_Twinkie said: "... laws that [...] the government choose to ignore" I found an article today in one of germany's biggest IT Website today: "Obama does not want to interfere in regulation on net neutrality" Same here for Angela Merkel & co. Another example: Wie have an oeganization called "BitKom" here. The members are small and big german IT companies. They also let Microsoft, Google, Oracle, Amazon & eBay join this Organisation. There was a discussion about the NSA scandal. Well, all US companies torpedoed this disdcussion as it was against the NSA & GCHQ and that they are "guilty" In the othee side the same companies wanted to be more transparent to the users regarding their requests for user data. They give a shit… If you are intersted here is the article. Sorry i use my mobile atm and can not translate it http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/NSA-Skandal-entzweit-den-Bitkom-2118031.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TecHnOBoY Posted February 19, 2014 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted February 19, 2014 http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2014/02/18/valve-dns-cache/1 Didn't look hard enough to pull the reddit thread itself but Gabe responded with more information about what VAC is actually doing and what they're doing with the data. The short of it is it sounds like they scrape your DNS cache data for domains linked to known hacks. Could they be gathering and using that data? Sure why not but so could any executable or javascript you run on your computer. If you have Java/Javascript enabled on your browser you're already leaking all your information online. @@hypn0t1k Thats what @@Sitting-Duc and me were talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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