Oh how times have changed..........

[little_old_man]

I am always amazed that how in just a few short decades, much of our younger generation has gone from self motivated young adults wanting to change the world, to self absorbed spoiled brats that have a severe case of self entitelment.

 

An 18 year old New Jersey girl didn't like the rules her parents laid down for her, and depending on which side you ask, she either moved out or they kicked her out. She had been suspended from school, was drinking, and the parents didn't approve of her boyfriend.

 

The girl moved out several months ago and is now suing the parents for living expenses and college tuition. So far the judge isn't letting it proceed. At some point this type of lawsuit will be common so it will be interesting to see what happens with this one.

 

http://www.today.com/moms/judge-denies-teens-attempt-sue-parents-money-2D79321954

Edited March 5, 2014 by little_old_man

[PainKiller]

My generation is bad :/ thankfully old man Noddy bought me up to be independent and also teach me that not everything will go my way and that is how I have grown up and when I settle down when I am older, I will teach my children the same thing. There are a handful of us that are self motivated so there is some hope. I have a dream to follow and I will see it right through to the end which is in my terms, self motivation

[Devildog4355]

i am embarassed to be apart of this generation

[Leadfinger]

I have a feeling that this young lady didn't get her butt paddled when she was a kid.

The occasional "diaper dusting"  works wonders for discipline later in life. While raising my son and daughter they got paddled (open handed) on the rear until they were 4 or 5 and then all that was needed was just a "look" to keep them in line. Now days this type of discipline will get Child protective services all over you.

I see a direct connection to lack of discipline and the direction of today's youth. Parents are afraid or just don't want to endure the drama the goes along with disciplining their child . . . .but I got news for them, If you birth em you have the responsibility to see that they are raised properly and that includes that occasional swat on the butt.

 

What gives the young lady in this article the idea that her parents "owe" her anything now since she is a legal adult and is responsible for herself?

She wasn't taught to be responsible.

[little_old_man]

This biggest problem I see with this case is that if this one or when subsequent cases go before a jury, any good trial lawyer might convince a jury that the reason she feels like she is owed everything is because that's how her parents raised her. The first time a jury agrees with the kids attorney they'll open the flood gates for thousands of other similar cases.

 

A couple months ago a 16 year old boy who got drunk and killed 4 people in a car crash got off with 10 years of probation because his lawyer convinced a judge that because he was brought up wealthy and had everything handed to him, he didn't know right from wrong. They called it "affluenza". People are still screaming about that one.

[Sammy]

Times havent changed much at all. There have always been dumbasses like this. Including legal ones. The main difference is that we all know about it because we are overloaded with too much information. In the 'old days' this kind of story would never make the papers, nightly news casts, and once upon a time the various cable news channels when they had some intgegrity.

[Sammy]

A couple months ago a 16 year old boy who got drunk and killed 4 people in a car crash got off with 10 years of probation because his lawyer convinced a judge that because he was brought up wealthy and had everything handed to him, he didn't know right from wrong. They called it "affluenza". People are still screaming about that one.

They will get him... and his parents... in civil court. He wont have to worry about being wealthy anymore.

[LandShark]

 The "Age of Entitlement." We are living in it to be sure. Many kids today believe everything should be given to them, as do many adults. It kills me to watch these vulture lawyers and child 'experts' keep pushing our society further into the toilet. Here is a list of my kids entitlements:

1. You are entitled to Love (without limits, you are always my kid. Hugs are included in this)
2. You are entitled to feel safe at home (we will discipline you with love, not anger)
3. You are entitled to respect, and to give respect (a must)
4. You are entitled to go to school and actually learn (If you don't want to, see item 6)
5. You are entitled to have time to do things together (you won't be raised by the TV or Xbox)
6. You are entitled to discipline. (I'm you're dad, not your best buddy. My job is to train you to become independent).
7. You are entitled to work if you want something, not to expect it to be given to you (want a car, earn a car)
8. You are entitled to good role models at home.

It's worked out well for us as we have a large family, cemented together by God, that has chosen to stay close together. I love technology, but there are some things better done the old fashioned way.

That's my rant!

Edited March 5, 2014 by LandShark

[MikeB]

BEAT THIER ASS !!!!!!!!  THEN SHIP THEM OFF TO SOME THIRD WORLD COUNTRY !!!  I BET THEY CHANGE THIER ATTITUDE AFTER 1 HOUR THERE.

[hxtr]

I am always amazed that how in just a few short decades, much of our younger generation has gone from self motivated young adults wanting to change the world, to self absorbed spoiled brats that have a severe case of self entitelment.

 

An 18 year old New Jersey girl didn't like the rules her parents laid down for her, and depending on which side you ask, she either moved out or they kicked her out. She had been suspended from school, was drinking, and the parents didn't approve of her boyfriend.

 

The girl moved out several months ago and is now suing the parents for living expenses and college tuition. So far the judge isn't letting it proceed. At some point this type of lawsuit will be common so it will be interesting to see what happens with this one.

 

http://www.today.com/moms/judge-denies-teens-attempt-sue-parents-money-2D79321954

I'm just happy the Judge denied her. Can you imagine the problems that would stir up if they ruled in her favor?

 

The dumb ass people enabling her to go to sue her parents and the lawyer are also at fault. They wanted to get the Parents to pay back $12,000 for legal fees they gave her to sue her parents. Pure fucking mad. 

 

She is a smart girl but typical to how kids and people think today....... Entitlements. I'm proud of the parents for stand up for what is right. Too bad they can't beat her ass. 

[hxtr]

BEAT THIER ASS !!!!!!!!  THEN SHIP THEM OFF TO SOME THIRD WORLD COUNTRY !!!  I BET THEY CHANGE THIER ATTITUDE AFTER 1 HOUR THERE.

How about a honor killing? lol

[little_old_man]

I'm sure she just needs some shopping money until she can reel in some 60 year old dude that she'll screw a couple times a week for a monthly allowance.

[eidolonFIRE]

haha!  I saw that on google news this morn. Totally crazy! How does a highschool minor sue her parents? How is this even possible!

[Sammy]

Actually that is the question. According to state law is she considered a minor even tho she is 18. Its all about parental responsibilities and where the line is drawn. So the case itself does have ramifications in that sense. The insurance industry has rules about this. It would be prudent that the law does also.

[Blackbart]

Actually that is the question. According to state law is she considered a minor even tho she is 18. Its all about parental responsibilities and where the line is drawn. So the case itself does have ramifications in that sense. The insurance industry has rules about this. It would be prudent that the law does also.

 

Once she voluntarily moved out and being eighteen she essentially declared herself emancipated...    

[eidolonFIRE]

No doubt there will be a reality tv show on this in 6 months.

[DEEJAYKEG]

Whilst the actions of this young woman are ridiculous, they do not provide the evidence of a wider

deterioration in the youth of today that you assert.

 

I'd suspect that this case is highly unusual, even for litigious America.  If it was not, it would not be

newsworthy.

[eidolonFIRE]

Whilst the actions of this young woman are ridiculous, they do not provide the evidence of a wider

deterioration in the youth of today that you assert.

 

I'd suspect that this case is highly unusual, even for litigious America.  If it was not, it would not be

newsworthy.

Maybe in your country...

[Belle]

she has enough money for a lawyer, must not be hurting too bad.     Most of the kids I know are really struggling just to get by on their own.  working hard, trying to get better jobs, going to college.   Sure you always have those who think they're entitled but seems like it's always been that way.     That family must've been screwed up to begin with.

[MikeB]

I imagine the lawyer is working for free.  Good publicity for his or her carrer.  They made national news   

[HarryWeezer]

How about parents suing their children who end up in jail or on drugs, to recoup the failed investment they made in them over 18-plus years?

[Sammy]

Once she voluntarily moved out and being eighteen she essentially declared herself emancipated...  

The operative word being 'voluntarily'. She says she was kicked out. I suppose in her own mind maybe she believes that. Which in itself suggests a lack of reasoning.

[DEEJAYKEG]

Maybe in your country...

 

I don't live in litigious America.

 

I've recently been watching videos of thousands of young people at a Christian rock group's gig in Texas.

I didn't see any evil there and, if those ready to condemn would take the trouble to speak and interact with

their young neighbours, they'd learn how kind and good they were.

 

Elsewhere, I see young Americans in uniform, serving their country - don't see any evil there either.

 

Apply logic, Captain.  If an entire generation abandons the values and laws of its predecessor, society will

collapse.  Clearly, it has not collapsed, so the premise that much of the younger generation has gone bad

is flawed.

[eidolonFIRE]

I don't live in litigious America.

 

I've recently been watching videos of thousands of young people at a Christian rock group's gig in Texas.

I didn't see any evil there and, if those ready to condemn would take the trouble to speak and interact with

their young neighbours, they'd learn how kind and good they were.

 

Elsewhere, I see young Americans in uniform, serving their country - don't see any evil there either.

 

Apply logic, Captain. If an entire generation abandons the values and laws of its predecessor, society will

collapse. Clearly, it has not collapsed, so the premise that much of the younger generation has gone bad

is flawed.

I'm in college in America... I have a pretty darned good seat for a view. Edited March 6, 2014 by eidolonFIRE

[little_old_man]

I don't live in litigious America.

 

I've recently been watching videos of thousands of young people at a Christian rock group's gig in Texas.

I didn't see any evil there and, if those ready to condemn would take the trouble to speak and interact with

their young neighbours, they'd learn how kind and good they were.

 

Elsewhere, I see young Americans in uniform, serving their country - don't see any evil there either.

 

Apply logic, Captain.  If an entire generation abandons the values and laws of its predecessor, society will

collapse.  Clearly, it has not collapsed, so the premise that much of the younger generation has gone bad

is flawed.

 

DJ you seem to have missed the point I was attempting to make. Nowhere did I say that "all" of our youth has gone bad here in the states. The point I was making is that it's amazing this case even made it before a judge, and that shows there is a fundamental change in how our society works today compared to 30 or so years ago.  There have always been problem kids and that will never change. But now we have a generation that's grown up with instant gratification and zero patience. They have computers, cell phones and many only seem interested in online porn or becoming famous on Youtube.

 

The young lady in this case didn't like the rules imposed on her by her parents and she moved out, she wasn't kicked out. In the link I provided in the original post, the parent even said that she is welcome to come home if she wants to live by their rules. I have 3 kids of my own between 16 and 23, all of which live under my roof. The same applies to them, my house, my rules. If you don't like it find your own way in the world.