Hemps Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 15 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 I retract from Murder.... to Manslaughter. Tony cheated... that is clear. The young man is pissed and Tony drives close to say... Hey punk.... I am Tony Steward. Tries to do a close drive by as the kids needs to be taught a lesson... DON'T BE GOOD AROUND ME BITCH!!!!!!! and Tony probably tired to spin dirt on him an got caught in a rut as he tried to get closer and .... well see the results. I am so pissed at him but he did not want to kill him... he just did not heed to a caution which is neglect and which is manslaughter. He needs to go to prison. He needs to have some time to think about things. Maybe by start his values. Maybe about the family and friends he just crushed. there was no cheating, if you know racing you would know that that happens all the time and steward did nothing wrong while racing in that race, . that's racing!!! the only thing that was wrong was getting out of the car and walking out on the track. Noears711XI, Mule, tsw 8.5 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Hemps Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 15 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 report does confirm that stewart and wards wheels did touch causing ward to flip his ride.....which ultimately led to the altercation causing wards death.... http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/kevin-ward-jr--deserves-to-be-known-as-more-than-victim-in-tony-stewart-wreck-083005597.html someone "said" they touched but i don't see it, i didn't see stewards car move at all right when ward spun out, looked like there was some space between them. looks more like he got too far up the track and got into the soft dirt that piles up there, and when that happens you most likely spin out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
CobraBites Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 1.03 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 you cant see it from the camera angle but tonys front tire touch other guys front tire which cause him to flip ....tony did do wrong...tony coulda had avoided the guy altogether by goin down all the way to bottom of the track and he chose to get close to ward so yes tony was wrong in that aspect...yes ward shouldnt have done his part either they both are at fault...but it doesnt excuse tony for his part what soever...tony coulda avoided it but didnt ....@ hxtr think it would more than likely if he gets charged at all for this as a crime it would more than likey be involuntary manslaughter charge....as im would hope tony hitting him wasnt meant to harm him....either way tony goin to have financial woes ...whether he is charged or not im sure the family of ward goin to sue tony for a wrongful death suit.....which tony will not win ....he more than likely will settle for millions outside of court ...bank on that for sure Noears711XI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBubbles Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 349 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 821 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 541 Achievement Points: 5195 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 5, 2017 Birthday: 01/27/1971 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I hope that adding memory improves things for you, it didn't for me. I use to run 6 gigs too, doubling did nothing for me, overclocking did made the difference! I have an i7950b. I will be upgrading soon, cpu, motherboard and memory. Noears711XI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noears711XI Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 189 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2162 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1940 Achievement Points: 19609 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 8, 2022 Birthday: 07/09/1957 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I agree with you Cobra he should of been at the bottom and the kid should not have gotten out of his car until track officials cleared the track. Me myself I would of loved it if the kid would have waited and bashed Steward with his helmet in the pits. Only GOD knows why we do the things we do. My prayer's go out to the kids family, those are the ones who are hurting now. CobraBites and reddog955i 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Noears711XI Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 189 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2162 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1940 Achievement Points: 19609 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 8, 2022 Birthday: 07/09/1957 Share Posted August 11, 2014 MrBubbles did you really try to hi-jack this post or are you just an idiot LMAO I hope that adding memory improves things for you, it didn't for me. I use to run 6 gigs too, doubling did nothing for me, overclocking did made the difference! I have an i7950b. I will be upgrading soon, cpu, motherboard and memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Hemps Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 15 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 you cant see it from the camera angle but tonys front tire touch other guys front tire which cause him to flip ....tony did do wrong...tony coulda had avoided the guy altogether by goin down all the way to bottom of the track and he chose to get close to ward so yes tony was wrong in that aspect...yes ward shouldnt have done his part either they both are at fault...but it doesnt excuse tony for his part what soever...tony coulda avoided it but didnt ....@ hxtr think it would more than likely if he gets charged at all for this as a crime it would more than likey be involuntary manslaughter charge....as im would hope tony hitting him wasnt meant to harm him....either way tony goin to have financial woes ...whether he is charged or not im sure the family of ward goin to sue tony for a wrongful death suit.....which tony will not win ....he more than likely will settle for millions outside of court ...bank on that for sure ive been looking hard at the video and i just don't see them touching, like i said ward got into the loose dirt at the top. if you know anything about those dirt tracks you know that the dirt piles up there and gets real soft and when the right side tires get caught up in there it grabs it hard and slows it down.(don't know about you guys, but just because the media says something doesn't make it true) and as for just staying at the bottom of the track, again this isn't nascar on a hard track, he was doing the slid thing to pass ward, did steward pinch him a bit, maybe a bit. but steward was the faster car by far.don't know if ward was getting lapped, and if so should of held up to let the faster cars pass, instead of trying to hang with him, again..... that's racing. WolfTiS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 Damn I wish I could find a video.I have see Tony jump out of his car a few times ready to kill the driver that spun him out. If only someone would have run over him, we would not be having this conversation. Did anyone watch the kid get run over? http://www.xtremeidiots.com/topic/47357-the-end-of-tonys-stewarts-career/page-2#entry505101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemps Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 15 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 Damn I wish I could find a video. I have see Tony jump out of his car a few times ready to kill the driver that spun him out. If only someone would have run over him, we would not be having this conversation. Did anyone watch the kid get run over? http://www.xtremeidiots.com/topic/47357-the-end-of-tonys-stewarts-career/page-2#entry505101 getting out of the car happens too much, and from what they say this was the 1st time a death happened because of it.(at least in the pros) but we all know that no one will do anything about it til it's too late. nascar and other top racing seriers loves the drama and the TV ratings that go with it. like i said before that when i racing thing and if you got out of your car on the track you where done racing at that track and with the racing club you where in! only thing that should be happening on the track is racing, everything else happens off the track! but as usual in the pros they let those things go cause it brings ratings and cash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 Yea the first time... I agree.... becasue Tony ran over the 17 year old. Now we have our first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouselad Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted August 11, 2014 they are trained to stay in their cars and wait for the crew to clear the track if their is a accident. he should not even have gotten out of his car. reddog955i and PimpedOutPete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 This is not NASCAR where they are trained to do certain things. And if so.. trained Tony skipped all them classes as he drove real close to the crash. The kid was 17 years old. I seen 40+'er olds act way worse. CobraBites 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 OH shit... Tony is one of them. Manslaughter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfTiS Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 1130 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 28 Topic Count: 216 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2267 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 586 Achievement Points: 17291 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 12, 2021 Birthday: 04/02/1948 Share Posted August 11, 2014 hxtr you need to learn how to read. The kid was 20 yrs old and you also need to learn more about racing before running your mouth. reddog955i, Scoarch, PimpedOutPete and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Hemps Posted August 11, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 15 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2014 This is not NASCAR where they are trained to do certain things. And if so.. trained Tony skipped all them classes as he drove real close to the crash. The kid was 17 years old. I seen 40+'er olds act way worse. Wald was 20 years olds btw PimpedOutPete and WolfTiS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
WolfTiS Posted August 12, 2014 Member ID: 1130 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 28 Topic Count: 216 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2267 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 586 Achievement Points: 17291 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 12, 2021 Birthday: 04/02/1948 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Here is another post from the news that might help some people understand... This was posted by one of the people who works on the car in front of Tony Stewart in the video. Definitely worth reading in my opinion. From Mark Tychoniewicz "i have driven these cars,the right side board on the top wing will block out an entire car let alone a person standing there,i now work on the 45 car in the video and the driver said he just saw at the last second and just missed him,Tony had even less time to react to the situation.people in the stands or watching this video have no idea how fast these thing happen and how limited our view is inside the car.it was a very bad turn of events that happened but we all know the dangers involved in the sport we love." Also for those that don't know, sprint cars on dirt are driven by the throttle rather than the steering wheel in some cases hence the reason you hear Tony's car throttling up. Just for the record I am not a Stewart fan but he was not at fault. Dark Asylumn, BUDMAN, Twinkie 13 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BUDMAN Posted August 12, 2014 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6950 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4493 Achievement Points: 58276 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 32 minutes ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted August 12, 2014 # 1 rule when racing, when envolved in a crash REMAIN in your car unless on FIRE ! mouselad and Noears711XI 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
reddog955i Posted August 12, 2014 Member ID: 691 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 292 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 152 Achievement Points: 2273 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16 Birthday: 02/27/1953 Device: Windows Share Posted August 12, 2014 First off , its racing , i have work motorcycle road race and corner worker ,we are the people that help the rider and pick up the bike, Noumber one rule , stay off the track with trafic, if cought on track with on coming trafic stand still they will miss you ,,, now the 20 year old driver not only walks on the track but runs down to the high center of the track , and is moving , ,,, hxtr get your facts stright , every one that works or is a racer fill out a waver , RACING IS DANGES People DIE Racing , I have work a race where the rider got killed ,I have seen drivers that are real mad , they didn't run on the track ,into trafic ,,,, its sad thing but its life ,,,,, mouselad, Hemps and Noears711XI 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Merlin007 Posted August 12, 2014 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 69 Topic Count: 1074 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 8438 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 7295 Achievement Points: 74947 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 64 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Share Posted August 12, 2014 It is quite a shame and this kid was only 20. Must have been quite talented to be driving with some of the best. I will say, agree or not, that I think that the attach on Stewart is only because of his known temper flares, he can be an ass and is not overly liked but if it were any other driver, it would be chalked up to a tragic accident avoidable if Ward stayed in his car until it was safe. Even under caution, cars are still moving and body against car is no match. And if the statement made in the post by Wolf above is accurate, that that side of the car is quite blinded to the driver, then that is what this may come down to, a tragic accident, nothing more. But Tony will still have to live with it as anyone would regardless of the circumstances. Ward should have stayed in his car and taken his dispute up with Tony off track. And he probably knew that but at that moment, that was probably the last thing on his mind at that moment... Just tragic... Condolences to his family and friends. WolfTiS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted August 12, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 251 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2835 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1016 Achievement Points: 20374 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted August 12, 2014 both of our local tracks (one of which is co owned by dale jr and stewart) implemented lifetime ban if a driver gets out of their car and stays on the track, unless there is an immediate emergency which would require that driver to get out of the car. that went into effect monday. drivers have been saying for years that someone is gonna get killed if they dont put a stop to it. every week at thousands of tracks the same scenerio plays out. a driver gets mad and charges on foot the car that wrecked em. should have been rule put in place years ago. seem many many near hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted August 12, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted August 12, 2014 What I don't get is why the kid was so pissed off in the first place. He was passing Tony on the outside, and if anything his actions caused the crash not Stewarts. Tony was making the turn and didn't move in front of the kid at all. You can't really see their wheels meet, and it looks like the kids front wheel got into the soft dirt on the top of the curve and it spun him around. I think the kid was just trying to act tough for the crowd and it ended up costing him his life. He was 20 and may have been a professional driver, but he still had a kids mentality and wanted to show off. reddog955i, Noears711XI, WolfTiS and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted August 29, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 29, 2014 there was no cheating, if you know racing you would know that that happens all the time and steward did nothing wrong while racing in that race, . that's racing!!! the only thing that was wrong was getting out of the car and walking out on the track. He did too cheat.. he ran over the other driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyNashville Posted August 29, 2014 Member ID: 25938 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 343 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 1493 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 284 Achievement Points: 13299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/17/17 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 25, 2022 Birthday: 08/08/1961 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Tony will race at Atlanta Sunday night. Sorry for the USA Today link but they are the first to report... http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2014/08/28/tony-stewart-will-race-atlanta-motor-speedway-kevin-ward-jr/14676639/ JN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted August 29, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 29, 2014 I wonder who he will run over this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfinger Posted August 29, 2014 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Device: Windows Share Posted August 29, 2014 It's been stated over and over what a tragedy this accident was. Tony Stewart is not the monster that he's being made out to be. Were there some bad choices made by both parties . .yes there was. The accident that created the situation was just racing pure and simple and is very much a part of dirt track racing . . true Tony Stewart is a veteran driver and Kevin Ward although young is a veteran driver as well having been driving since a very young age. After watching the video in a very slowed down format you can see Kevin Ward grab the front wing of Tony Stewart's car then the back of the wing and as he grabs the wing you can see that it has an effect on the car as if he was trying shake the car at that point he gets pulled under the tire and tossed to the side of the track. Whether or not Tony Stewart revs his engine at the moment Kevin Ward grabs the wing is inconclusive since the camera is positioned on the near side of the track the revving sound heard would more likely be a car on the near side of the track based on the sound level of the revving engine. For anyone to make the assumption that Tony Stewart was trying to run him over is completely untrue and without merit. Did he drive by closer than good judgement would suggest . . . perhaps but looking at the amount of track left after Kevin Ward walks down to what appears to be 1 car width of track he leaves Tony Stewart with very little room to go by. If the car that hit Kevin Ward was driven by an unknown unprofessional driver we probably wouldn't hear much about it except for the night it happened and the next day news, the driver would be cleared because Kevin Ward was the major contributor to the accident by walking into traffic and grabbing the wing of the car. If you look at the accident without names and just the video you see a driver get out of his car and walks thru traffic and makes contact with a car that leads to him being hit by the rear wheel and killed then its just another bad accident at a small town dirt track. Right or wrong that's how I see it Twinkie 13, Hemps and little_old_man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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