TheHammer Posted April 18, 2020 Member ID: 4101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 23 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1131 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 807 Achievement Points: 8839 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 12:01 PM Birthday: 07/08/1962 Device: Windows Posted April 18, 2020 If you haven't seen this movie its a must watch !!! All have a good Day and God Bless You All https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_daniel_blake GHO5T and Angelz 1 1 Awards
RobMc Posted April 18, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted April 18, 2020 Unfortunately in some cases this is true, but we have many many cases of abusing our care system and have started clamping down, everyone in the UK knows someone abusing it, my ex brother in law hasn't worked for 25 years. Nothing wrong with him, he lives in his own 4 bedroom house, Drives a large 4x4 and has 4 holidays a year all paid for by the state, gets away with it by being a good actor and lying. Other poor people genuinely in need cannot get assistance, any UK citizen will confirm this. baldie, TheHammer and spinpuppy 3
TheHammer Posted April 18, 2020 Member ID: 4101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 23 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1131 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 807 Achievement Points: 8839 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 12:01 PM Birthday: 07/08/1962 Device: Windows Author Posted April 18, 2020 Rob I know the Kind have you watched the movie its good !!! Awards
RobMc Posted April 18, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted April 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheHammer said: Rob I know the Kind have you watched the movie its good !!! No only saw this trailer, movies like this depress me because some of it is true, but given up thinking the world is fair, although Budman has cheered me up today by donating many deaths to my final scores, thanks Budman. TheHammer, kovut and BUDMAN 2 1
Labob Posted April 18, 2020 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted April 18, 2020 LOL Friggin idiots be happy you have health coverage. I know a country of very very fearful people ight now because they have to pay for it and it is not cheap. kovut, TheHammer and RobMc 3 Awards
TheHammer Posted April 19, 2020 Member ID: 4101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 23 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1131 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 807 Achievement Points: 8839 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 12:01 PM Birthday: 07/08/1962 Device: Windows Author Posted April 19, 2020 I pay close to 2000.00 a month for health coverage for my family. and I don't need it because I am a war time veteran I get free health care through the VA God Bless all RobMc and spinpuppy 2 Awards
kovut Posted April 19, 2020 Member ID: 3326 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 23 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 144 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 137 Achievement Points: 1161 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Birthday: 02/10/1960 Device: Windows Posted April 19, 2020 We do have an amazing NHS but the process that. the government put you through to claim your sick pay is sometimes unfair, but as Rob said it's down to people abusing the system and they are trying to weed them out. Most of the people who do these assessments do no not work for the NHS TheHammer, coolmd and RobMc 3 Awards
RobMc Posted April 19, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted April 19, 2020 50 minutes ago, TheHammer said: I pay close to 2000.00 a month for health coverage for my family. and I don't need it because I am a war time veteran I get free health care through the VA God Bless all We do pay for it of course as our taxes are very high, roughly you lose about 60% of your wages for the average earner, we pay a graduated income tax plus national insurance, then everything you buy is taxed after that. The NHS was formed to give basic healthcare to the population, however as science has progressed people now expect every treatment available to be free. So no government dares to interfere as it is political dynamite, consequently it is underfunded and has a hopeless management system. The managers, who are generally non medical, earn vast salaries compared to the medical staff. The medical staff leave to work abroad where they can earn much more and there is a constant struggle for staff, The system staggers along, but is not nearly as advanced and efficient as that in other modern countries. That said the British people are extremely fond of the NHS and it still serves the population well. Kitsune, TheHammer, kovut and 1 other 4
coolmd Posted April 19, 2020 Member ID: 2384 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1058 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 757 Achievement Points: 9390 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/10/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 9, 2024 Birthday: 01/18/1966 Device: Windows Posted April 19, 2020 The entire British welfare system has been abused for so long and by so many that it is near breaking point. I believe it is systematically abused by both born and bred British and many of our drop in and live friends from all over the world. With the correct information and a few medical letters and a bit of acting many can lead a reasonable life without ever having put in a fkin penny towards the state. This is where the system has failed and whatever steps are then imposed only seems to make things worse for the people who sincerely need help. The people who abuse it still carry on and abuse it. These sad times that we are now going through are highlighting the years of mismanagement and underfunding of the NHS and the inept and slow reaction by the goverment and its advisers. I just hope that once this is all over that the UK's fragile economy will actually survive and still allow us to have the NHS and social care that is needed in this once great country. TheHammer, RobMc, El Presidente and 1 other 4 Awards
RobMc Posted April 19, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted April 19, 2020 @TheHammer although our systems are fairly good we have some massive drawbacks to them, our welfare system actually encourages people not to work and in many cases you earn far more than people who go to work. This results in entire generations of families who have never, and will never work, and do you blame them when by working you get a lot less money and probably lose all your benefits, it also gives them time to earn even more by 'fiddle jobs'. You may find this incredible in these times of lockdown, but we are just about to fly in plane loads of Eastern Europeans to pick our crops, while our own people sit at home and watch tv on benefits. The thing I always find the most amazing is that these people complain the most about everything, you often hear them saying things like what are 'they' doing about it, they being the state who look after them from cradle to grave. It has gone far beyond being a fall back in times of trouble and become a way of life for many, I think last time I saw the figures we have two and a half million people who have never worked (although a lot will be genuine) and six and a half million immigrants working with an unemployment figure of yes you've guessed it two and a half million. You get the benefits as soon as you enter the country without a need to pay into the 'pot', which is crazy. The ones who seem to lose out the most are like in the film, they have worked most of their lives then fallen on hard times, they fall outside of a lot of benefits and are left in limbo. Yet despite this we have many homeless, many poor etc etc just like any other country, sad. So in UK you can be born, live and die and have to a degree no monetary, housing or medical worries your entire life, bet that sounds weird to those in the USA? baldie, coolmd and TheHammer 2 1
spinpuppy Posted April 19, 2020 Member ID: 3682 Group: ++ COD5 Admin Followers: 58 Topic Count: 178 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1834 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1747 Achievement Points: 14794 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/27/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 1 Birthday: 01/12/1960 Device: Android Posted April 19, 2020 14 hours ago, TheHammer said: I pay close to 2000.00 a month for health coverage for my family. and I don't need it because I am a war time veteran I get free health care through the VA God Bless all $700 US month here. For my son and myself. My wife is Medicare now ( retired ) I was at about that amount last year though TheHammer 1 Awards
lTplkey336 Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 27768 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1087 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1346 Achievement Points: 8918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/18/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 15 Device: Windows Posted April 20, 2020 Actually Rob , we have the same identical problems you described here in the states. Don't want to get into it , but everything you described is going on here. Its a shame for the people who genuinely need the assistance. RobMc, TheHammer and coolmd 3 Awards
RobMc Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted April 20, 2020 Done some quick number crunching as best I can, and for the average type of wage it appears you pay twice as much for medical services in the USA than we do in the UK, so yes it is expensive. I presume that there will be monetary limits on treatments too, which will make it worse. Not hard to see why all our doctors head out there ? I didn't realise you had a system outside of insurance type cover, what does that cover, do they specify treatments? TheHammer 1
TheHammer Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 4101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 23 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1131 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 807 Achievement Points: 8839 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 12:01 PM Birthday: 07/08/1962 Device: Windows Author Posted April 20, 2020 WOW !!!!!! RobMc 1 Awards
coolmd Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 2384 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1058 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 757 Achievement Points: 9390 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/10/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 9, 2024 Birthday: 01/18/1966 Device: Windows Posted April 20, 2020 But from what i can tell the average working American probably has a much higher standard of living compared to the UK Awards
RobMc Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted April 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, coolmd said: But from what i can tell the average working American probably has a much higher standard of living compared to the UK My butler agrees with you Sammy, Timmah!, baldie and 3 others 1 5
spinpuppy Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 3682 Group: ++ COD5 Admin Followers: 58 Topic Count: 178 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1834 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 1747 Achievement Points: 14794 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/27/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 1 Birthday: 01/12/1960 Device: Android Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, RobMc said: Done some quick number crunching as best I can, and for the average type of wage it appears you pay twice as much for medical services in the USA than we do in the UK, so yes it is expensive. I presume that there will be monetary limits on treatments too, which will make it worse. Not hard to see why all our doctors head out there ? I didn't realise you had a system outside of insurance type cover, what does that cover, do they specify treatments? medicare is for retirees, 65 and older. single payer government issued. Wife pays $135 month for what is called part b, c and d. Covers EVERYTHING including prescriptions, eye care , dental, rides to doct appointments, unlimited hospital stays and a bunch more. Edited April 20, 2020 by spinpuppy RobMc, TheHammer and Hunter1948 3 Awards
RobMc Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted April 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, spinpuppy said: medicare is for retirees, 65 and older. single payer government issued. Wife pays $135 month for what is called part b, c and d. Covers EVERYTHING including prescriptions, eye care , dental, rides to doct appointments, unlimited hospital stays and a bunch more. Oh well that's not too bad if you're over 65
lTplkey336 Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 27768 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1087 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1346 Achievement Points: 8918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/18/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 15 Device: Windows Posted April 20, 2020 Its called medicaid. Was supposed to help the lower income and disabled people who couldn't work , Have other programs which pay rent heat electricity etc. They were made with well intentions but you know what happened when everyone jumped on the bandwagon. TheHammer and RobMc 2 Awards
lTplkey336 Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 27768 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1087 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1346 Achievement Points: 8918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/18/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 15 Device: Windows Posted April 20, 2020 Medicare is free, and covers just about everything. Don't quote me on this because i'm not on medicaid never was. I was one of the people that had to go to work everyday and watch people on assistance programs buying out the grocery stores with full shopping carts , while we had to pinch pennies because we had bills to pay. Retired now so that is good. Kids have good jobs and are self sufficient , so everything is right in my world except the coronas virus. TheHammer and RobMc 2 Awards
YACCster Posted April 20, 2020 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 311 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3407 Content Per Day: 0.82 Reputation: 4127 Achievement Points: 45800 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 07:04 PM Device: iPhone Posted April 20, 2020 According to eHealth, the average of an individual health insurance plan is $440 for an individual and $1,168 for a family in the USA. https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/resources/individual-and-family/how-much-does-individual-health-insurance-cost RobMc and TheHammer 2 Awards
TheHammer Posted April 21, 2020 Member ID: 4101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 23 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1131 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 807 Achievement Points: 8839 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 12:01 PM Birthday: 07/08/1962 Device: Windows Author Posted April 21, 2020 WOW !!!!! RobMc 1 Awards
TheHammer Posted April 22, 2020 Member ID: 4101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 23 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1131 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 807 Achievement Points: 8839 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 12:01 PM Birthday: 07/08/1962 Device: Windows Author Posted April 22, 2020 Belief is the enemy of knowing !!!!! coolmd and RobMc 2 Awards
RobMc Posted April 23, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 8:35 AM, TheHammer said: Belief is the enemy of knowing !!!!! Wow TheHammer 1
lTplkey336 Posted April 23, 2020 Member ID: 27768 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1087 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1346 Achievement Points: 8918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/18/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 15 Device: Windows Posted April 23, 2020 WOW,WOW! RobMc and TheHammer 1 1 Awards
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