MrCrowe Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 2560 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 134 Achievement Points: 2777 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 26, 2023 Birthday: 11/14/1956 Posted April 4, 2014 I know I am probably severely outnumbered here regarding politics and religion but I have to say that I do not want to hear President Obama bashed and blamed for everything in the world while I'm trying to enjoy playing COD2. I am not going to mention names and I'm not going to point fingers. I was under the impression that we were not supposed to discuss politics on the servers, if I am wrong about that, please let me know. I'm not trying to get into any kind of conservative v. liberal discussion here. I realize that most members in this clan will no doubt disagree with me. I for one don't think political discussion or Obama bashing belong on a Xtremeidiots server. Thank you Cpt.TennealXI, Sammy, animalxi and 5 others 8 Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.63 Reputation: 8042 Achievement Points: 92203 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Posted April 4, 2014 I have to agree Glove. We above all are a gaming site. Talking religion or politics is a fine line to walk and at time it can lead to a heated conversations. Hopefully we can check our sensitive feelings at the door and it can stay on lighter note. Pete Damage_inc-, loaderXI, LtLaszlo and 1 other 4 Awards
little_old_man Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted April 4, 2014 There are no rules against open mic political comments on our servers. If people are saying things that you find offensive, I would strongly suggest muting chat from people you don't want to hear from in your game options. loaderXI, sabreeyes, TedsofBeverlyHills and 3 others 6 Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.63 Reputation: 8042 Achievement Points: 92203 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Posted April 4, 2014 That's true Glove, thats most likely is the simplest solution to the problem. Choosing to try to making political points while gaming seems useless but if it's an issue, just mute them. 3rdCdnInfty, loaderXI and Bullet 3 Awards
Unchileno Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 101 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 110 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 8139 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 6768 Achievement Points: 61591 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 21 Birthday: 01/23/1974 Device: iPhone Posted April 4, 2014 The man is right.. There should be NO poltical talk in servers, is been like this since we got rid of political forum in website..Is a gaming clan folks..Is Not allowed in Cod4 servers that's for sure. Or you guys forget allready that politics and religion cause major issues allready in this clan and put a wedge between some of us members, we had to get rid of them.People still get their political post moved or delete, why should be any difference in servers? Scoarch, Dukoo, Damage_inc- and 7 others 10 Awards
Blackbart Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 51 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 342 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5974 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 3766 Achievement Points: 45818 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 06/26/1949 Posted April 4, 2014 There is a difference between someone making an occasional political statement or joke and a political debate...A debate will not be tolerated in the servers...We cannot police everything being said...We can make sure it doesn't get out of hand or break our rules of no racial or personal attacks... PimpedOutPete, loaderXI, little_old_man and 2 others 5 Awards
little_old_man Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) The man is right.. There should be NO poltical talk in servers, is been like this since we got rid of political forum in website..Is a gaming clan folks..Is Not allowed in Cod4 servers that's for sure. Or you guys forget allready that politics and religion cause major issues allready in this clan and put a wedge between some of us members, we had to get rid of them.People still get their political post moved or delete, why should be any difference in servers? I'm on the DM and/or TDM servers every single day of my life. Political comments are extremely rare and religious talk simply never happens, which I'm sure even Mr. Crowe can attest to. Look people, this ain't rocket science. We live in a divided world and people who play our servers come from different political ideologies and will have vastly different outlooks on who is sitting in the White House. The fact that the subject so infrequently comes up now just goes to show you that most people are here to play and not discuss what goes on in the real world. When you're home and something you don't want to hear comes on TV, you turn the channel. If you're driving in your car and something you don't want to hear comes on the radio, you simply change stations. I would suggest to anybody who hears something they don't want to hear on our servers to either mute that person or play someplace else. Edited April 4, 2014 by little_old_man Warface, loaderXI, PimpedOutPete and 3 others 6 Awards
LtLaszlo Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 151 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 62 Topic Count: 189 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9238 Content Per Day: 1.62 Reputation: 24519 Achievement Points: 95450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 323 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:48 PM Birthday: 05/17/1959 Device: Windows Posted April 4, 2014 Ya, you can't hear me say "No Fucking Way" if you're talking about all that other jiberish!! At least NFW is game related!! LOL! PimpedOutPete, Painsponge, Cpt.TennealXI and 3 others 6 Awards
MrCrowe Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 2560 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 134 Achievement Points: 2777 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 26, 2023 Birthday: 11/14/1956 Author Posted April 4, 2014 Look, all I am saying is that it happened. It really doesn't matter if it happened once or everyday. I am very disappointed in the people that were doing the talking, as I would be of anyone who takes that extremely ignorant viewpoint and spews it in a somewhat public place. What happened last night was not an occasional political statement or joke. It was a completely ignorant set of statements made by several players. IMO, everyone is entitled to their opinion regardless of whether or not it is based on fact. I know how to change the channel, I know how to mute people and I am definitely not sensitive. I said very little at the time, all I said was, why are we talking about politics? All I was doing here was pointing out something and taking the route that I thought I was supposed to take. loaderXI, LtLaszlo and animalxi 3 Awards
Blackbart Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 51 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 342 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5974 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 3766 Achievement Points: 45818 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 06/26/1949 Posted April 4, 2014 Mr. Crowe...Since I wasn't there last night I have only your written statement to go by...Your complaint is against unnamed players whom last night (not every time you are in game) made political statements that you deemed ignorant...By the way that would be occasional by definition...Keeping in mind you have actions that you can take to protect yourself from such an affront; Just what sort of action do you suggest we take?... :) loaderXI and TedsofBeverlyHills 2 Awards
MrCrowe Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 2560 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 134 Achievement Points: 2777 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 26, 2023 Birthday: 11/14/1956 Author Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Bart, all I am doing here is reporting what happened. I don't make the rules and I have no say in what ultimately happens. I do my best to always follow the rules and now I realize that talking about politics is okay on the servers. You can trust that I won't be one who takes part in these discussions because, a. I am outnumbered, b. I don't think it's the proper place for such discussion and c. Because it serves no purpose but to show ignorance. I don't expect a solution, I just wanted to inform the powers that be. Edited April 4, 2014 by Mr. Crowe loaderXI and LtLaszlo 2 Awards
little_old_man Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted April 4, 2014 Is there a place I am unaware of where one can listen to a political discussion that is truly based on fact, remains level-headed, and doesn't eventually make both sides of the discussion appear ignorant? baldie and loaderXI 2 Awards
Blackbart Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 51 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 342 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5974 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 3766 Achievement Points: 45818 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 06/26/1949 Posted April 4, 2014 Mr. Crowe you are either lacking in reading skills or twisting words purposely...No one has said talking politics are ok...Political discussions are not allowed in the servers...Occasion political statements and jokes will happen and we will do what we can to prevent them from becoming discussions...If there are no Admins present then it is incumbent upon the players to locate one at the time the incident is occurring...The easiest way to do this is to have all COD2 Adm's and Sr. Adm's on your x-fire friends list...We simple cannot do anything after the fact... little_old_man and TedsofBeverlyHills 2 Awards
7Toes Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted April 4, 2014 loaderXI 1 Awards
loaderXI Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 72 Topic Count: 396 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6438 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 6581 Achievement Points: 54654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 32 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 03:49 AM Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Posted April 4, 2014 I have read what is written in this post and the one thing that is for sure is that we must maintain a fun friendly atmosphere and I believe that is Crowe,s point he is trying to make...With that being said every member has a certain level in game of policing and seeing that the servers are friendly and fun and hacker free... May I suggest to everyone in the future respond to the player with a simple can we cool it down or go off subject and just have some fun...Its that simple If that don,t work you may also send them a PM explaining your thoughts and that we ALL play for fun and in some maybe most cases come into servers to leave the troubles of the world behind if only for a few rounds outside of that PM a Admin with names there is no need to bring it to clan forums or open We play for fun and Friendship ChknFngr, window, Blackbart and 5 others 8 Awards
MrCrowe Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 2560 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 134 Achievement Points: 2777 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 26, 2023 Birthday: 11/14/1956 Author Posted April 4, 2014 Is there a place I am unaware of where one can listen to a political discussion that is truly based on fact, remains level-headed, and doesn't eventually make both sides of the discussion appear ignorant? Answering this would lead to a political discussion in itself so, no comment. loaderXI, LtLaszlo and Scoarch 3 Awards
MrCrowe Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 2560 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 134 Achievement Points: 2777 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 26, 2023 Birthday: 11/14/1956 Author Posted April 4, 2014 Mr. Crowe you are either lacking in reading skills or twisting words purposely...No one has said talking politics are ok...Political discussions are not allowed in the servers...Occasion political statements and jokes will happen and we will do what we can to prevent them from becoming discussions...If there are no Admins present then it is incumbent upon the players to locate one at the time the incident is occurring...The easiest way to do this is to have all COD2 Adm's and Sr. Adm's on your x-fire friends list...We simple cannot do anything after the fact... Bart, LOM stated in his first response, "There are no rules against open mic political comments on our servers." To me, comments and discussion are the same thing. As I said before, I don't care if anything is done about this. I am merely pointing out that it happened so that the powers that be can do whatever they choose to do. I will deal with it however I see fit, whether that be by muting, ignoring or leaving the server for a bit. loaderXI 1 Awards
MrCrowe Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 2560 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 134 Achievement Points: 2777 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 26, 2023 Birthday: 11/14/1956 Author Posted April 4, 2014 I have read what is written in this post and the one thing that is for sure is that we must maintain a fun friendly atmosphere and I believe that is Crowe,s point he is trying to make...With that being said every member has a certain level in game of policing and seeing that the servers are friendly and fun and hacker free... May I suggest to everyone in the future respond to the player with a simple can we cool it down or go off subject and just have some fun...Its that simple If that don,t work you may also send them a PM explaining your thoughts and that we ALL play for fun and in some maybe most cases come into servers to leave the troubles of the world behind if only for a few rounds outside of that PM a Admin with names there is no need to bring it to clan forums or open We play for fun and Friendship Loader I agree with your statements, however, there were 5 players discussing and talking shit about our President. I really don't want to mute people. I usually enjoy most of the banter. It seems that everyone these days feels it necessary to make their political and religious beliefs known. Painsponge, loaderXI and Unchileno 3 Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted April 4, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.63 Reputation: 8042 Achievement Points: 92203 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Posted April 4, 2014 We try our best to promote a causal and friendly atmosphere for everyone to game. Sometimes we may make an off the cuff comment that may offend someone but I can say, we don't do it in malice. Please Crowe, take it with a grain of salt. If it's to much for you to take, just simply leave the room and contact either the player or an admin. Communication is a must and a simple conversation would most likely due with little to no drama. Easy fix to minor hiccup. Painsponge and Unchileno 2 Awards
window Posted April 5, 2014 Member ID: 1189 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2017 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 891 Achievement Points: 12898 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 07/20/1966 Device: Windows Posted April 5, 2014 Mr. Crowe. I would suggest that first you mute them as was already suggested. Then you might just ask them to calm down or ask to change the subject. We play to have fun. However we are all different walks of life and that will always be that way. little_old_man, Blackbart, PimpedOutPete and 1 other 4 Awards
Painsponge Posted April 13, 2014 Member ID: 294 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 113 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 981 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 920 Achievement Points: 8801 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/07/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 05:20 PM Birthday: 10/29/1963 Device: Windows Posted April 13, 2014 It's a little thing called "Freedom of Speech" that gets us all into trouble,....take it from me! Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted April 13, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.63 Reputation: 8042 Achievement Points: 92203 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Posted April 13, 2014 I'm sorry Pain, did u say something? Lol Awards
little_old_man Posted April 13, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted April 13, 2014 It's a little thing called "Freedom of Speech" that gets us all into trouble,....take it from me! STFU Pain, you're not allowed to talk any more. Awards
baldie Posted April 13, 2014 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Posted April 13, 2014 Listen WE ARE AN ADULT CLAN..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Lets start behaving like adults and I am sorry but if political comments are said between friends who maybe only see each other on the servers sometimes what the hell, as long as their are no direct RACIST words or Personal attacks so what....And I don't care if the attacks are on some bloody Prime Minister or President everyone just needs to chill and enjoy them selves CHECK YOUR SENSITIVE FEELINGS AT THE DOOR AND PLAY THE GAME HAVE FUN !!!!!!! window, little_old_man, TheLastColdBeer and 2 others 5 Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted April 13, 2014 Member ID: 489 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 52 Topic Count: 553 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4745 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 6058 Achievement Points: 42053 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 18 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 23, 2024 Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Android Posted April 13, 2014 I'm with Baldie...... little_old_man, sabreeyes and baldie 3 Awards
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