OWFT Player Based Rotation??

[Merlin007]

For those that play on the OWFT server, just want to throw this idea out there.

What do you think of the idea of a player based rotation setup?  Based on the number of players, the server would start off with medium sized maps, small maps are typically too small for FT, and after a set number of players joining, server switches to larger maps. For example, say, from 1-10 players, medium sized maps would play and from 11-26, the larger maps would play, so essentially 2 sets of rotations based on player count. With this, we would have say 15-20 maps per rotation size, currently we run approx 20-25 maps total.

For your information to consider, you might ask, will this reduce the variety of maps? Well, what maps you personally see would just depend on when you join and the number of players currently so in essence, you might not see a particular map if it's classed as a medium sized map and you join when there are lots of players.  However, rotations are at our discretion so if there is a particular map(s) that are favorites but is considered a medium sized map, this could be put into the large rotation as well.

We do this for the DM servers, works relatively well there, but I don't think this has been tried here for a team game so please comment on whether or not this is something that you would like to try.

Thanks for your feedback.

[Morris]

Sounds like a dam good idea Merlin

[sstriker]

yes sounds like that would work well on ft

[jointz]

That is a good idea could keep more ppl on instead of leaving cuz of the same few maps everyday. I noticed ppl take off cuz the maps are too big for the amount of players. And once they leave and get into  different game. Or server they don't tend to come back. 

[lazymarcky]

Personally i agree with that idea mostly european evening time when last time playing small amount of players.

[AthenA]

I also agree, but I would add a few medium size maps as it's also nice to play some "smaller" maps with a lot of people sometimes. It makes it very different from when we're only 6 to 10, for example. Although, the opposite is indeed more of a problem; I mean that really big maps with only 6 players will make the players to leave (unless an admin is on to be able to call a vote and switch, of course).

[BlackRose]

i thought thats how it was ,,till I asked hahahaha yes it works much better so we dont have massive maps with only 6 ppl!!lol

[Raisin]

Not really understanding how this would work.  Will the server load maps based on number of players in server or you doing it by time of day? 

And I agree with Athena. There are lots of small maps that are fun to play regardless of player numbers.  Crash for example.

The maps in general are an issue.  Was my understanding that the reason we migrated to OW from Vietnam mod was for different maps and yet in a rotation of say 15 maps in a given week we seldom see any that we didn't play on the regular on the Nam server. Old game, same old tired maps...I get that.

[Merlin007]

9 hours ago, Raisin said:

Not really understanding how this would work.  Will the server load maps based on number of players in server or you doing it by time of day? 

And I agree with Athena. There are lots of small maps that are fun to play regardless of player numbers.  Crash for example.

The maps in general are an issue.  Was my understanding that the reason we migrated to OW from Vietnam mod was for different maps and yet in a rotation of say 15 maps in a given week we seldom see any that we didn't play on the regular on the Nam server. Old game, same old tired maps...I get that.

The map sizes played would be based on the number of players however if there are some favourite maps that people like regardless of players, those maps can be added to the large map rotation as well.  Players just need to speak up and say so and we can add it to both rotation sizes.

As for map selection in OW, that's something we can work on.

[skuzapo]

9 hours ago, Raisin said:

The maps in general are an issue.  Was my understanding that the reason we migrated to OW from Vietnam mod was for different maps and yet in a rotation of say 15 maps in a given week we seldom see any that we didn't play on the regular on the Nam server. Old game, same old tired maps...I get that.

There are currently only 55 "new playable maps" in the rotations and another 40 for which "playability" still needs to be determined and there aren't anymore maps available.  Using only the new maps would give us 4 to 6 rotations of 15 maps each. For comparison NamFT has 243 maps.  The current rotation set up uses all the maps from which I have made 20 rotations of 15 maps each with a few maps held in reserve to replace any bad ones. That means 20 weeks before you see a map again.

So which do we want?

 

 

[E-raser]

Does the !like - !dislike work in the OW server(I don't think so?).   Can that be added for awhile to help determine which maps players like the most ?

[Merlin007]

2 hours ago, E-raser said:

Does the !like - !dislike work in the OW server(I don't think so?).   Can that be added for awhile to help determine which maps players like the most ?

Not sure if it does. That would be a question for @Sitting-Duc.

[Biotech]

yes definitely worth a try. especially if Eraser's proposal is implemented.

Or if i may suggest the following?  i remember on COD2 servers where at the beginning of each game you saw a list of maps. players could then vote and the map with the most votes started. ( even if some people didn't even vote )

i don't know if this is possible on OWFT. 

[jointz]

That would be a good idea. Like and dislike or vote would work 

[Merlin007]

58 minutes ago, jointz said:

That would be a good idea. Like and dislike or vote would work 

 

2 hours ago, Biotech said:

yes definitely worth a try. especially if Eraser's proposal is implemented.

Or if i may suggest the following?  i remember on COD2 servers where at the beginning of each game you saw a list of maps. players could then vote and the map with the most votes started. ( even if some people didn't even vote )

i don't know if this is possible on OWFT. 

Can check on the options for voting but this generally gets abused so generally keep it turned off.  I'd prefer if people to can do the like / dislike thing even if we can get it to work automatically, i can still pull it out of the logs.

[jointz]

i agreee 100 percent

[Sitting-Duc]

On 6/20/2021 at 6:12 PM, Merlin007 said:

Not sure if it does. That would be a question for @Sitting-Duc.

Nah it's broken and I've just started a new contract so won't be looking at that stuff for a fair while.

[Merlin007]

On 6/20/2021 at 11:10 AM, E-raser said:

Does the !like - !dislike work in the OW server(I don't think so?).   Can that be added for awhile to help determine which maps players like the most

Ok, so like dislike don't work but if you can encourage people to use anyway, I can manually go through the logs. It's a but time consuming but willing to do as time allows.

[Biotech]

well i'm ok for trying it out without vote or like/dislike.

No need for Merlin to spend his time going through chat logs.

Lets just see how it goes.

since the maps stay on for atleast a week, i think we can comment in the weekends in the forum on which maps we likes or dislike.

 

Edited June 22, 2021 by Biotech

[Biotech]

Just a thought Merlin,

if you or the rotation manager could put the list of maps that are beeing used here in the forum so people can comment ( like/dislike ) on the maps names, ( i know you guys put the maps rotations separately in the forums )then it might be easier for you ( or the map manager ) to filter out the unwanted maps.

( i and i know others too are more then happy to tell the people in the game to place their likes/ dislikes in here )

 

 

[KaptCrunch]

to help the map manager   us players need to chip in too by leaving a bad map and go back into  server info and collect the name of the bad map

 

doing this only take 3 minutes  tops  sure a big help to all people  envolved  to a better gaming exprierence  

 

[Biotech]

crunch i know this is off topic .... but how the hell did you get a ' for the ladies ' badge while you got a whiner badge  ???? 

 

[KaptCrunch]

15 minutes ago, Biotech said:

crunch i know this is off topic .... but how the hell did you get a ' for the ladies ' badge while you got a whiner badge  ???? 

 

Bio 

was a bad bitching day for Whiner award for my sour grapes rants of loosing in game rants, nothing to do with my german wiener

as for the Lady's award cause i give them respect 

hope that answers  your questions 

 

[Merlin007]

9 hours ago, Biotech said:

Just a thought Merlin,

if you or the rotation manager could put the list of maps that are beeing used here in the forum so people can comment ( like/dislike ) on the maps names, ( i know you guys put the maps rotations separately in the forums )then it might be easier for you ( or the map manager ) to filter out the unwanted maps.

( i and i know others too are more then happy to tell the people in the game to place their likes/ dislikes in here )

 

 

Hey Bio, we do have a map rotation forum page for this where the maps are listed every time the rotation is changed. Thanks

[E-raser]

5 hours ago, Merlin007 said:

Hey Bio, we do have a map rotation forum page for this where the maps are listed every time the rotation is changed. Thanks

I could be wrong , but I think Bio is looking for a master list of the maps the rotations are pulled from…?