GorillaXI Posted January 16, 2011 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Share Posted January 16, 2011 So my Dad and I went out to look at guns today. Damnit....I had to get something... Here is my new toy. A Taurus PT709 Slim 9mm. Nice gun to have for when I get my concealed to carry permit. Of course my Dad had to out do me and get a loaded AR15. Here are the specs: Model: 709 Finish: Blue Caliber: 9 mm Grips: Checkered Polymer Capacity: 7 +1 Weight: 19 oz Barrel Length: 3" Construction: Steel Frame: Compact Action: SA/DA Front Sight: Fixed Length: 6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGTDANKO Posted January 16, 2011 Member ID: 3214 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 27 Topic Count: 206 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2362 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 50 Achievement Points: 14004 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/21/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/23/1981 Share Posted January 16, 2011 nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted January 16, 2011 Member ID: 51 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 342 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5974 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 3766 Achievement Points: 45818 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 06/26/1949 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Mazdarati Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 173 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 42 Topic Count: 94 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1392 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 769 Achievement Points: 9957 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 30 Birthday: 02/08/1962 Device: Windows Share Posted January 17, 2011 Awesome , I Like It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PigDog Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 222 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 88 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3846 Content Per Day: 0.72 Reputation: 1626 Achievement Points: 25628 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 24 Birthday: 02/05/1968 Device: Windows Share Posted January 17, 2011 Nice Gorilla. I just got my CHL and got nice little Kahr CW9. Same thing....single stack. Shoots nicely. My Glock is a little big to carry. I am looking at 2 others for carrying when I am wearing shorts and want something smaller.....The first is the Ruger LCP .380 and the second is the S&W Bodyguard .380. The Bodyguard comes with the built in laser sight, so that is kinda cool and it is nice and compact. BUT, I am thinking of the LCP with an added Crimson Trace laser trigger guard. The LCP has gotten better reviews as a CCW. Then I would probably load with RBCD ammo to handle whatever is comin' at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
kilroy45xi Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 105 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 603 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 2 Achievement Points: 3524 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Share Posted January 17, 2011 I likie like!!!! NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXTRAKAMIKAZE QC Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 1455 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 101 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4166 Content Per Day: 0.82 Reputation: 1275 Achievement Points: 37577 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/28/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 28, 2019 Birthday: 07/25/1976 Share Posted January 17, 2011 ohhhhhhhhhhh yea realy beautiful guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
tsw 8.5 Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 906 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 143 Topic Count: 513 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 17089 Content Per Day: 3.25 Reputation: 42083 Achievement Points: 148592 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 677 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 11/30/1960 Device: Windows Share Posted January 17, 2011 nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
GorillaXI Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thanks Killroy. Pig, thought my Springfield XD .45 was to big. So I needed a smaller weapon to have for a CCW. BTW, I like the Bodyguard with the built in laser sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-RINGCUTTER>XI< Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 260 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Achievement Points: 602 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17, 2022 Birthday: 06/09/1979 Share Posted January 17, 2011 S&W MODEL 29 NOW THATS A CARRY GUN. LOL VERY NICE !!!! I'M STILL LOOKING TO GET ONE OF THOSE LOADED 1911'S FROM TAURUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
google Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 1270 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 149 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3862 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 4543 Achievement Points: 34162 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/22/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 08:58 AM Birthday: 04/12/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted January 17, 2011 I Dont Hate Guns,i Hate That Ppl Can Use It Do Hurt Others........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iFuerza Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 1607 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 181 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 1227 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2020 Birthday: 12/20/1991 Share Posted January 17, 2011 nice gun, i myself open carry, because of my area a CCW is much to difficult to obtain, i carry a Taurus Jude revolver, shoots a 45 long colt and a 410 shotgun shell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 503 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 181 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2461 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 1213 Achievement Points: 15555 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/24/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 22 Device: Windows Share Posted January 17, 2011 Very nice Gorilla. Is your Dad going to let you try out that AR15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
WolfTiS Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 1130 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 28 Topic Count: 216 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2267 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 586 Achievement Points: 17291 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 12, 2021 Birthday: 04/02/1948 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Very nice Gorilla. Here is my CCW carry pistol, a Springfield 9mm EMP. Not a great picture but here it is..... Here is a better picture but not the picture of my actual gun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JohnnyDos Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2011 What's the matter with you guys?Seems people over the border don't trust each other.You are all nuts.That is the only reason I can figure why you need a gun.Gorrilla what are you going to do at the >XI< Fun Fest?Shoot someone.I just don't get it.You mean to tell me that when you guys go to a movie or shopping or a restauraunt you have to bring a gun? From a dumb Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 69 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 227 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2660 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 4123 Achievement Points: 22968 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 06:44 PM Birthday: 05/07/1965 Device: Windows Share Posted January 17, 2011 JohnnyDos What's the matter with you guys?Seems people over the border don't trust each other.You are all nuts.That is the only reason I can figure why you need a gun.Gorrilla what are you going to do at the >XI< Fun Fest?Shoot someone.I just don't get it.You mean to tell me that when you guys go to a movie or shopping or a restauraunt you have to bring a gun? From a dumb Canadian. Same question from a dumb Frenchy do you guys carry weapons in your everyday life ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
drbakke Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 108 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 148 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 58 Achievement Points: 1009 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 02/03/1962 Device: Android Share Posted January 17, 2011 very nice...sexy lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
kleinehexe Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 107 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 29 Topic Count: 95 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1215 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 685 Achievement Points: 8562 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 02/11/1972 Device: Android Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hmm...you have not many now?? lolol.....But nice Gorilla....I like more the Fun Guns, you know what i mean, when we sit here in Office^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 1238 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted January 17, 2011 JohnnyDos What's the matter with you guys?Seems people over the border don't trust each other.You are all nuts.That is the only reason I can figure why you need a gun.Gorrilla what are you going to do at the >XI< Fun Fest?Shoot someone.I just don't get it.You mean to tell me that when you guys go to a movie or shopping or a restauraunt you have to bring a gun? From a dumb Canadian. Whilst I share your and Olive's puzzlement as to why it could be necessary to carry a firearm when going about ones business (law enforcement, military and possibly security guards excepted), I have long abandoned any expectation that people abroad will live their lives like one does in ones own country. They've made their choice, it works for them and it isn't any of my business. I expect you are about to be reminded of the contents of the US Constitution... Logically, if firearms are freely available to bad guys, the good guys should not be left holding a big stick or a crowbar to defend themselves and their property, perhaps? I think I'd feel safer camping in the wild with a gun by me, with all those big bears roaming around, also. We're fortunate in England & Wales to have suffered a relatively low rate of gun-related deaths, due to increasingly strict controls and outlawing of handguns entirely but we have seen that people who have obtained their weapons lawfully occasionally "lose it" and a tragedy results. I found an interesting table of statistics on gun-related death: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate The USA does not top the table and it was alarming to see an EU country above it - Estonia! If this table is accurate, one of the safest places to live in the world is....CHILE! Perhaps this explains why one of our Head Admins prefers a knife and a tomahawk in-game to a rifle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Hunter1948 Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 1850 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 98 Topic Count: 328 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8620 Content Per Day: 1.74 Reputation: 4222 Achievement Points: 55994 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 06/19/1948 Device: Windows Share Posted January 17, 2011 Nice gun. Wish we could have them in Canada like you guys can, lots of paper work here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
GorillaXI Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 For Johnny Dos and Olive. 11 reasons to have a CCW permit and allow people to have them. Criminals are less likely to attack someone that they believe might be armed. The deterrent effect of concealed carry benefits the individual carrying a handgun as well as the general public because criminals never know who is armed. According to a 2000 study by John Lott, PhD, "shall-issue" laws have reduced homicides by 8.5%, aggravated assaults by 7%, rapes by 5%, and robberies by 3%. Lott argued that if states that did not permit concealed handguns in 1992 had permitted them in 1977, 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes, 60,000 aggravated assaults, and 12,000 robberies would have been prevented between 1977 and 1992. [8] The right to carry concealed handguns is guaranteed by the Second Amendment in the US Constitution. The Second Amendment states, "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." According to a 1997 study of National Crime Victimization Survey data, "robbery and assault victims who used a gun to resist were less likely to be attacked or to suffer an injury than those who used any other methods of self-protection or those who did not resist at all.” [9] Even if an adult never needs to draw a concealed handgun for self-defense, a person may feel safer being armed and feel freer to go outside at night or in dangerous areas. A majority of adults who legally carry concealed handguns are law-abiding citizens who do not misuse their firearms. According to a 2000 report by engineering statistician William Sturdevant published on the Texas Concealed Handgun Association website, the general public is 5.7 times more likely to be arrested for violent offenses (299 KB) , and 13.5 times more likely to be arrested for non-violent offenses, than concealed carry weapon permit holders. [30] Carrying a concealed handgun could aid in ending public shooting sprees. The Apr. 20, 1999 Columbine High School massacre and Apr. 17, 2007 Virginia Tech shooting could have been ended and lives saved by an armed citizen shooting the assailants. [10] The government cannot guarantee the safety of its citizens. Protecting oneself and family is a personal duty and the government should not impede the ability of responsible adults to defend themselves. Criminals carry concealed weapons regardless of their legality. Responsible citizens should have the same advantages when it comes to protecting themselves from armed attackers. In District of Columbia v. Heller (267 KB) , the US Supreme Court ruled 5 to 4 on June 26, 2008 that although most 19th-century courts found that prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons were lawful under the Second Amendment, the Second Amendment guarantees "the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation. This meaning is strongly confirmed by the historical background of the Second Amendment.” [31] Concealed handguns are an effective non-lethal form of self-defense a majority of the time. An Autumn 1995 peer-reviewed study by Gary Kleck, PhD, published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, found that when someone draws a concealed gun in self-defense, the criminal simply retreats 55.5% of the time (903 KB) . [32] "Only an armed people can be truly free.Only an unarmed people can ever be enslaved." - Aristotle And here it is summed up by Admiral Yamamoto during WWII..... "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto(Japanese Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steak Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 750 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 445 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 132 Achievement Points: 2815 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/16/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 17 Birthday: 02/25/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted January 17, 2011 Gorilla is absolutely correct. Also, it is my understanding that only about 2% of the adult population in states where there are liberal carry laws ever apply for permits and of those permit holders, many are not carrying much of the time. It is the PERCEPTION that your possible victim might be carrying a gun and ruin your plans as well as your day that often deters the bad guys. An armed society is a polite society! LOL! What Europeans as well as Canadians have a hard time wrapping their head around is the notion that many of us here in the US consider it OUR duty and responsibility to protect ourselves from the bad guys. An armed intruder here thinks twice about breaking into a house when people are home because they just might get their head blown off whereas in a society where he is sure that the homeowners have been disarmed by the state they are emboldened to commit "hot" breakins and god help the poor slobs that live there that are at the mercy of the thugs. I have multiple loaded firearms in my home. I probably will never have to so much as point one of them at a human being but if the situation arises I will protect myself and my family/property with lethal force. The police certainly can't and won't protect you. They investigate crimes after they happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
kilroy45xi Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 105 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 603 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 2 Achievement Points: 3524 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Share Posted January 17, 2011 Olive JohnnyDos What's the matter with you guys?Seems people over the border don't trust each other.You are all nuts.That is the only reason I can figure why you need a gun.Gorrilla what are you going to do at the >XI< Fun Fest?Shoot someone.I just don't get it.You mean to tell me that when you guys go to a movie or shopping or a restauraunt you have to bring a gun? From a dumb Canadian. Same question from a dumb Frenchy do you guys carry weapons in your everyday life ? I carry every where I go. Just ask Rug Rug or C-bags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malificent Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 38 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1255 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 7228 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 11/06/1971 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Sure...don't say "ask Mal"...jesus! What am I? Chopped Liver?!?!?! Damn Rug Rug and Cbags...always get top billing! That's it...I AM GONNA PUT YOUR GUNS TO USE NOW...!!! Btw...in the RateMy section...I am posing with the gun Killroy carries everywhere. Smith and Wesson 645. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCooBY>XI< Posted January 17, 2011 Member ID: 3233 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 15 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 334 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 40 Achievement Points: 2030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/23/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 28, 2013 Birthday: 04/09/1967 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I've carried a weapon most of my adult life --never really thought about it as coming from a military family we were raised around weapons and their proper use and I taught my children (1 daughter , 2 sons ) the same way I was taught . I've found through life experience, its always better to have a weapon and never have to use it then to need one and not have it available. My wife carries a .38 I carry a .45 , I have met few people in oklahoma that do not carry and firmly believe that though I live in an area of ranches and large acreage , there is very little crime here --criminals know they will meet armed resistance and seek easier prey. As a consultant to Law enforcement and part of the cleet training centers team of instructors here I often share my own personal experiences with members of the class ---both on the civilian side and the military side , I have never had any class that did not wonder how with me growing up in Los Angeles , CA. from 1 to age 17 (then the marine corps took me away to exotic locations ) I had few problems with anyone even though my home was in the middle of Gang territory yet when we went back to visit friends a few years after I left ---my wife was at a stoplight and a youth attempted to car jack her --when he opened the passenger door to get into the vehicle he was met with her .38 in his face and he chose to back out of the vehicle and run away rather then risk his life , all of us can only imagine what may have happened had my wife not been properly trained and ready to respond defensively in such a situation. One of the most fundamental rights an American has that many in this world do not is the right to bare arms , giving them the ability to protect themselves and their loved ones should they ever have too . One should never feel threatened by a decent law abiding citizen that is armed --to the contrary it should make those around them feel comfortable in the knowledge that they have the capacity to protect themselves should it ever be necessary . To those that do not own guns or for whatever reason are against them I always challenge that I will put up any money you think you can cover that when the shit hits the fan you will later be thankful there was somebody there that was able to at least make a legitimate attempt to protect you and your loved ones from an armed adversary . My students often ask have I ever had to take a human life with my firearm and its an important part of there lessons to realize the answer . Yes both in civilian life in defense of my families lives and more enemies than I care to remember in my many tours of duty , they need to understand its the human being behind the weapon that did the deed not the weapon itself as a gun is just an inert object in order for it to function properly it must have a human being manipulating it --the lesson always ends with me telling them I hope they are NEVER in a position where they are forced to use lethal force and after I relate how I have trouble sleeping often and have vividly detailed dreams of each and every killshot ---it helps to bring home the responsibility that comes with the choice to arm oneself. Guns are not for everyone , however I am glad myself and my family was raised to support the second amendment. I would have to agree with Gorilla in that guns are an effective means in reducing violent crime ---think about what might have happened had faculty members been armed when a violent shooter comes in and attempts to randomly take innocent lives ? most likely they would not have gotten far before a citizen could have stopped them , saving many lives. SCooBY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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