DEEJAYKEG Posted March 12, 2014 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.10 Reputation: 4985 Achievement Points: 50728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11, 2024 Posted March 12, 2014 There are fewer countries, these days, in the civilised world that retain the death penalty. 20% retain it in law and practice. The United States carries out more executions than any other liberal democracy in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_country So, spare a thought for the man who has spent 30 years on Death Row in the USA and has now been proven innocent of murder... His best years have been stolen from him and the only thing for which he and we should be thankful is that the sentence had not been carried out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10693558/Glenn-Ford-freed-after-30-years-behind-bars-for-crime-he-didnt-commit.html The monetary compensation to which he is entitled is disgusting, amounting to around $11,000 per stolen year. This is a wrong that cannot be put right. An innocent man has lived under the threat of death for three decades. Disgusting! If it were not bad enough that he was deprived of his liberty, the mental torture on top makes this inhuman. I have to hope that pressure groups in his home country will cite this appalling miscarriage of justice to bring about a profound change in that country's justice system. Above all, this proves that the system is imperfect and risks sending innocent people to their deaths. Man did not give Man life and is not empowered to end the life given to Man by his Creator. eidolonFIRE 1 Awards
little_old_man Posted March 12, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted March 12, 2014 Wow DJ, I'm certainly glad that the UK has never wrongfully imprisioned anybody before. It must be nice having perfect penal and judicial systems that are incapable of error. At least in the US when we release somebody that was wrongfully accused, we don't send them a bill for all of the free food and lodging for their years behind bars. http://www.rense.com/general50/25yt.htm baldie, azzkikr, deerejon and 2 others 5 Awards
KingStinger! Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 Wow, not getting into the death penalty debate but amazing that he got out. Very sad story with a very happy ending. And LOM that is quite the article as well. I think there are flaws in most of the free worlds laws and penal codes, the point is it works most of the time. baldie and Leadfinger 2 Awards
Leadfinger Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted March 13, 2014 You make a good point here DeeJay. Excellent response LOM When one takes residence in a house made of glass throwing stones is unwise. Your comments DeeJay seem to reflect a feeling that we here in America don't try to correct our flawed justice system and imprisoning innocent people is "OK" which is completely untrue. If we as a country didn't give a rats ass about convicting innocent people for crimes they didn't commit we wouldn't waste time with DNA testing. No justice system on the planet is without flaws and the alternative is not an option. As long as some humans see fit to harm other humans a system of laws and justice must be maintained. My country, The United States of America is not perfect and has many flaws but even during our darkest hour we are still the greatest nation on this earth. This country has made mistakes when it comes to our justice system but I wouldn't live anywhere else. (disclaimer) Yeah I got a little pissy, but Americans in general bust our ass trying to help others around the world and set the bar on how a prosperous country should act and when someone comes along and starts acting all high and mighty trying to say we are all messed up instead of "dropping" them I invite them to kindly lead the way . . .no takers??? Didn't think so eidolonFIRE, HarryWeezer, baldie and 5 others 8 Awards
fireurza Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 677 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1457 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 791 Achievement Points: 9890 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16, 2024 Birthday: 02/20/1986 Posted March 13, 2014 There are fewer countries, these days, in the civilised world that retain the death penalty. 20% retain it in law and practice. The United States carries out more executions than any other liberal democracy in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_country So, spare a thought for the man who has spent 30 years on Death Row in the USA and has now been proven innocent of murder... His best years have been stolen from him and the only thing for which he and we should be thankful is that the sentence had not been carried out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10693558/Glenn-Ford-freed-after-30-years-behind-bars-for-crime-he-didnt-commit.html The monetary compensation to which he is entitled is disgusting, amounting to around $11,000 per stolen year. This is a wrong that cannot be put right. An innocent man has lived under the threat of death for three decades. Disgusting! If it were not bad enough that he was deprived of his liberty, the mental torture on top makes this inhuman. I have to hope that pressure groups in his home country will cite this appalling miscarriage of justice to bring about a profound change in that country's justice system. Above all, this proves that the system is imperfect and risks sending innocent people to their deaths. Man did not give Man life and is not empowered to end the life given to Man by his Creator. God did give man the right to end the life of someone convicted of murder (Old Testament). He was proven innocent through appeals but 30 years ago they didnt have the technology we currently have. baldie, Mastiffking and KingStinger! 3 Awards
BattlewolF Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 2028 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1740 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 545 Achievement Points: 10637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 11, 2024 Birthday: 03/10/1963 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 Typical for America Awards
HarryWeezer Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 20166 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 7655 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 7232 Achievement Points: 53682 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 26 Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 Well said Leadfinger!!! Leadfinger 1 Awards
Sonovabich Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 If they gave us a vote over here in the UK to bring back hanging it would be a big YES from me. sandradee2, Leadfinger, JohnnyDos and 4 others 7
Sonovabich Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 Wow DJ, I'm certainly glad that the UK has never wrongfully imprisioned anybody before. It must be nice having perfect penal and judicial systems that are incapable of error. At least in the US when we release somebody that was wrongfully accused, we don't send them a bill for all of the free food and lodging for their years behind bars. http://www.rense.com/general50/25yt.htm I remember that all too well, as far as i am concerned it was one of the lowest points in my country's history. little_old_man, baldie and Leadfinger 3
reddog955i Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 691 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 292 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 152 Achievement Points: 2273 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 02/27/1953 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 well said Leadfinger, in front of every court in the USA is the a lady standing with the scales of Justice She has a blind fold around her Eyes, we are not perfect , at times Justice is blind. I am no lover of the system , but its what we got and it work s as good as any , better then most , work to change it for the better , or leave and go somewhere eles . Leadfinger 1 Awards
BattlewolF Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 2028 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1740 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 545 Achievement Points: 10637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 11, 2024 Birthday: 03/10/1963 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 If they gave us a vote over here in the UK to bring back hanging it would be a big YES from me. And you will be the Hangman SOB Sonovabich 1 Awards
baldie Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 Listen as long as there is human beings with emotions running our justice system's mistakes will be made.. And with regards our so called justice system here in the UK.........THERE IS NO JUSTICE. How can we let killers and child molesters out of prison after 6-8 years that's not justice, but rob a bank or steal the crown jewels and you will get 20+ years. We have the softest justice system in the world and most unbalanced. Yes I say bring back the death sentence here in the UK it is stupid how we treat our criminals, Tv's, radios, Gym equipment priority health care no waiting in NHS queue's 3 balanced meals a day plus snacks cigarettes phone calls home. Hard labour for everyone and you take a life and its proved beyond a doubt "Death sentence" We take better care of our Criminals than our Old people and servicemen and women. Things need to change here in the UK and get our priority's right. Yes its sad what happened to the gentleman in the US but at least they try to do the right thing with there criminals Mastiffking, Sonovabich, Leadfinger and 2 others 5 Awards
7Toes Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted March 13, 2014 well see that was the problem 30years and these 3 strike fellons lol we feed them house them close them ..if convicted of murder you get 90 days to appeal after the 90days on the 91st day you become a oragan donor if your organs are viable...these 3 strikers on the 3rd strike 90 days to appeal organ donor happens on the 91st day...its a win win stops prison over crowding and helps the people who needs oragans to live...also saves the tax payers a bundle here Awards
Sonovabich Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Listen as long as there is human beings with emotions running our justice system's mistakes will be made.. And with regards our so called justice system here in the UK.........THERE IS NO JUSTICE. How can we let killers and child molesters out of prison after 6-8 years that's not justice, but rob a bank or steal the crown jewels and you will get 20+ years. We have the softest justice system in the world and most unbalanced. Yes I say bring back the death sentence here in the UK it is stupid how we treat our criminals, Tv's, radios, Gym equipment priority health care no waiting in NHS queue's 3 balanced meals a day plus snacks cigarettes phone calls home. Hard labour for everyone and you take a life and its proved beyond a doubt "Death sentence" We take better care of our Criminals than our Old people and servicemen and women. Things need to change here in the UK and get our priority's right. Yes its sad what happened to the gentleman in the US but at least they try to do the right thing with there criminals Most of the Judges are probably Paeodophiles too Baldie, they seem always to be very lenient with these fuckers, i would chop their bollocks off, see if they fancy touching kiddies after that, as for the death sentence, they say oh that is no deterrent you will still get murderers, i don't care but at least the ones we catch won't be spending their time in prison living a life of luxury at (our) the tax payers expense then getting released after a few years, it is just a slap in the face of every decent person.....how much has it cost us to keep that bastard Ian Brady locked up all this time then compare it to the cost of a piece of rope. Edited March 13, 2014 by Sonovabich baldie and Leadfinger 2
deerejon Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3714 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28467 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 05:18 PM Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 @ Really? Awards
little_old_man Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted March 13, 2014 @ Really? It was a typical Dutch response. KingStinger! and DramaLlama 2 Awards
KingStinger! Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) If they gave us a vote over here in the UK to bring back hanging it would be a big YES from me. And i will vote a big YES to your big YES vote. EYE FOR AN EYE Can you imagine how different this world would be if all criminals were sentences to the same crime the committed? A robber gets his price possession given to his robbery victim. A pedophile gets a bat rammed up his ass. An assaulter gets assaulted the same way as the victim. An arsonist gets his house burned down. Just plain old killed they way the victim died. We would all respect one another much differently.. That would have my vote. Dont do unto others if you wouldnt do it to yourself. Edited March 13, 2014 by KingStinger! Leadfinger 1 Awards
KingStinger! Posted March 13, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted March 13, 2014 Listen as long as there is human beings with emotions running our justice system's mistakes will be made.. And with regards our so called justice system here in the UK.........THERE IS NO JUSTICE. How can we let killers and child molesters out of prison after 6-8 years that's not justice, but rob a bank or steal the crown jewels and you will get 20+ years. We have the softest justice system in the world and most unbalanced. Yes I say bring back the death sentence here in the UK it is stupid how we treat our criminals, Tv's, radios, Gym equipment priority health care no waiting in NHS queue's 3 balanced meals a day plus snacks cigarettes phone calls home. Hard labour for everyone and you take a life and its proved beyond a doubt "Death sentence" We take better care of our Criminals than our Old people and servicemen and women. Things need to change here in the UK and get our priority's right. Yes its sad what happened to the gentleman in the US but at least they try to do the right thing with there criminals I dont think you have the softest criminal system in the world. Im quite sure Canada is softer on crime than the UK. Example: One of my good friends and co-worker was murdered with a shovel when two 19 year olds jumped out of a hedge and hit my friend in the head with the shovel killing him instantly, all while walking his dog holding hands with his wife. Robbery gone seriously wrong. Anyways, they were both sentences to 2 years in jail and were on the streets again after 11 months on good behavior. 2 years later the one guy committed another murder killing a 76 year old man retired and living alone in a nearby town. Another robbery gone wrong. The trial for this one is still ongoing but he will likely only get 5 years or so and out in maybe 2. Also, a pedophile gets released into society on good behaviour but is still deemed a high risk to re offend. Thats right, a HIGH RISK... Not low.. HIGH RISK TO RE OFFEND and they set him free cause they smile at prison guards and get deemed a nice guy and release them. He one of them even just fled recently to Seattle form Canada because he was afraid he would re offend.. Our laws are shit here. As per my above post, that is justice. With the exception of a pedophile. They deserve nothing but being shot for hurting a child... AMEN Leadfinger 1 Awards
Mastiffking Posted March 14, 2014 Member ID: 3506 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 109 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 106 Achievement Points: 939 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/21/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 17, 2023 Birthday: 12/09/1974 Posted March 14, 2014 There are fewer countries, these days, in the civilised world that retain the death penalty. 20% retain it in law and practice. The United States carries out more executions than any other liberal democracy in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_country So, spare a thought for the man who has spent 30 years on Death Row in the USA and has now been proven innocent of murder... His best years have been stolen from him and the only thing for which he and we should be thankful is that the sentence had not been carried out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10693558/Glenn-Ford-freed-after-30-years-behind-bars-for-crime-he-didnt-commit.html The monetary compensation to which he is entitled is disgusting, amounting to around $11,000 per stolen year. This is a wrong that cannot be put right. An innocent man has lived under the threat of death for three decades. Disgusting! If it were not bad enough that he was deprived of his liberty, the mental torture on top makes this inhuman. I have to hope that pressure groups in his home country will cite this appalling miscarriage of justice to bring about a profound change in that country's justice system. Above all, this proves that the system is imperfect and risks sending innocent people to their deaths. Man did not give Man life and is not empowered to end the life given to Man by his Creator. SO DJ, I suppose the two dirtbag's that hacked that service member to death in the UK in the name of Allah deserve the humane treatment of life in prison on the taxpayers dime? No they deserve to die! A painful death just like their victim! I agree there are flaws in the system and at times prejudice happens. But how do we address the criminal element then if punishment is more like a bad vacation? See, it seems to me that folks in the UK don't really care about their rights? ( At least based on what I have seen on Road Wars) Is it right that a police officer can stop you for no reason then just search your car? No, its not. But that is what you get whe nyou have a "Liberal Democracy"! Less personal rights and more Government rights under the guise of "Safety". Socialized Medicine, soft justice system, and an enorrmous tax burden! I find it funny that these so called Free societies are actually under constant CCTV surveillance. Explain the freedom in that! Always remember that the US/UK share a great alliance! if we didn't both of us might be speaking German! Glad he was cleared! Hopefully he can adjust to life on the outside and make every minute count. Sonovabich and Leadfinger 2 Awards
TsoTsi! Posted March 27, 2014 Member ID: 20361 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 31 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 7 Achievement Points: 261 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/16/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 23, 2015 Birthday: 07/28/1987 Posted March 27, 2014 wtf ? lol. Why you speak about me ? I am not a criminal. LOL
Damage_inc- Posted March 31, 2014 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Posted March 31, 2014 we find we made mistakes due to greed power and racism/hate.happens all the time even now-hopefully we learn and grow better. Awards
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