RealEstufa Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 21461 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 18 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 215 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 173 Achievement Points: 1864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/30/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 31, 2019 Birthday: 06/01/1988 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I play on a few servers that allow everyone to vote for a map/style of play at the beginning of the round. It's a fantastic design that I feel would greatly improve the freeztag mod while possibly adding a little extra spice (shotty & knives only mode). I feel like the old school set map rotation method is a bit out of date. I'm not sure how much work this would require however, but I'd love to hear other people's thoughts. Damage_inc- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icequeen Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6095 Content Per Day: 1.52 Reputation: 7994 Achievement Points: 51462 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 54 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) It sounds fun. I'd even try it, but I just think that would be a hard thing to implement on a routine server Edited August 17, 2015 by Gossamyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Phoenix911 Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 3723 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 524 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 543 Achievement Points: 3685 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/14/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 09/17/1987 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 I do love the option of voting being enabled as well as different modes being available however I see two problems. First, compatibility with the FT mod is always an issue regardless of CoD4 or CoD5. Secondly, with these types of servers, although they allow a greater voice in choosing maps, a lot of times its abused with people selecting the same map/modes over and over again which can make gameplay stale as well. Just my 2c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
NITRO Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 1095 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3639 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2460 Achievement Points: 24702 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 24 Birthday: 03/23/1979 Device: Android Share Posted August 17, 2015 @@Sammy is this something that could be done numbers willing? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Icequeen Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6095 Content Per Day: 1.52 Reputation: 7994 Achievement Points: 51462 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 54 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Share Posted August 17, 2015 I don't think alot of people will understand the change or go for change. You see how a new mod drives them away already. Why mess it up more? Maybe a different server for this but not freezetag. Dessy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Huskie Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 20344 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 99 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 250 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 303 Achievement Points: 2013 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14, 2023 Birthday: 07/12/1995 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I love the idea I'm down...but I agree with queeny too lol, it'll cause the whines to start RealEstufa and Dessy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix911 Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 3723 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 524 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 543 Achievement Points: 3685 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/14/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 09/17/1987 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 @@Huskie as opposed to now where there are few whiners? You're always going to have those that don't like something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Icequeen Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6095 Content Per Day: 1.52 Reputation: 7994 Achievement Points: 51462 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 54 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Share Posted August 17, 2015 @@Huskie as opposed to now where there are few whiners? You're always going to have those that don't like something. Exactly! And this would make it worse. Huskie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Blaze Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 2702 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 8 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1057 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 918 Achievement Points: 8385 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/27/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 16 Birthday: 11/26/1978 Device: Android Share Posted August 17, 2015 It's a feature that is built in to the open warfare mod AFAIK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Onyx Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 7547 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 621 Achievement Points: 5030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 4, 2020 Birthday: 07/10/1984 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I suppose it would do away with admins asking people to vote to skip a map when they personally don't like it. Can the vote be limited to the first round? So we aren't getting 3 rounds in to a map and the next thing it skips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PainKiller Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 20107 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 19 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2017 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 2489 Achievement Points: 16709 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/21/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 08/01/1994 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 Im down for this but as Queeny says; it may cause more issues. How about fixing up a custom TDM server. On CoD2 we got one and it runs great and used to have a map vote system. Icequeen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PainKiller Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 20107 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 19 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2017 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 2489 Achievement Points: 16709 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/21/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 08/01/1994 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 We should run a trial period for this idea. See how it goes. If it goes well then keep it. If not; chuck it Icequeen and RealEstufa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Huskie Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 20344 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 99 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 250 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 303 Achievement Points: 2013 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14, 2023 Birthday: 07/12/1995 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I suppose it would do away with admins asking people to vote to skip a map when they personally don't like it. Can the vote be limited to the first round? So we aren't getting 3 rounds in to a map and the next thing it skips Don't you hate that lol...it's awful Icequeen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorgirl Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 2986 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 206 Topic Count: 384 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6454 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 7140 Achievement Points: 50699 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 10:08 PM Birthday: 12/19/1967 Device: iPhone Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) This has been tried in other servers and it seems the same map/style gets picked over and over (i.e., always tdm, never ctf, etc...). The map vote has been disabled by because there is no way to limit it's use to just admins and it was being abused... Edited August 17, 2015 by Gatorgirl Icequeen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) The main problem is that the map vote list is small compared to the number of maps the server actually rotates through. So the map rotations, as they stand now, would also be map vote rotation lists changed every week. In any case, currently it is not in the OW2 mod because I took out the menus. Menu assets are in very short supply and I needed them for other things like the killstreak menu. Edited August 17, 2015 by Sammy Onyx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Uranium Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 22485 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 245 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 151 Achievement Points: 1588 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 11:33 PM Birthday: 06/26/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 Would it be better to have some kind of command (like !fu boomboom) each player could type on a map to say if they like or don't like a map (votes tied to users guid so they can't vote more than once, but can change their vote, also probably let them know when they join or a server hint)? That way over time, maps that are heavily voted down don't get added back to the rotation in the future? RealEstufa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Huskie Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 20344 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 99 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 250 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 303 Achievement Points: 2013 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14, 2023 Birthday: 07/12/1995 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Sometimes the voting isnt just abused by non admins...but the voting of maps would get abused surely and a single map wouldn't last like 1 minute because they're always some people who hate sniper maps, or those who love them. Those who hate dark or big maps and those who do, it'll always be that way...but I do like what alpha said, that's a good idea. Edited August 17, 2015 by Huskie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealEstufa Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 21461 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 18 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 215 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 173 Achievement Points: 1864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/30/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 31, 2019 Birthday: 06/01/1988 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 I don't think alot of people will understand the change or go for change. You see how a new mod drives them away already. Why mess it up more? Maybe a different server for this but not freezetag. If society listened to every grump opposed to change, we would still be plebing it up for our masters in the stone age. also, I have a hard time believing someone would have difficulty 'understanding' such a change. Every new mod we have people bitchin' and moanin', but the server population remains steady; I don't see this as an exception to that rule. The entire point of this suggestion is based on the freeztag server, I and most who are reading this are much less concerned with another server. Damage_inc- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DramaLlama Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 1443 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2299 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3788 Achievement Points: 17866 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 05/24/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 8, 2023 Birthday: 02/19/1987 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 Would it be better to have some kind of command (like !fu boomboom) each player could type on a map to say if they like or don't like a map (votes tied to users guid so they can't vote more than once, but can change their vote, also probably let them know when they join or a server hint)? That way over time, maps that are heavily voted down don't get added back to the rotation in the future? We used to have that. People could type !like or !dislike. As far as I know, the results were never taken into account when rotations were made because the voting results were ambiguous. Most of the maps were liked by the majority. There were almost no maps that everyone hated, and most of the maps that people typically complained about were split 50/50 on the votes. Icequeen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RealEstufa Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 21461 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 18 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 215 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 173 Achievement Points: 1864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/30/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 31, 2019 Birthday: 06/01/1988 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 Would it be better to have some kind of command (like !fu boomboom) each player could type on a map to say if they like or don't like a map (votes tied to users guid so they can't vote more than once, but can change their vote, also probably let them know when they join or a server hint)? That way over time, maps that are heavily voted down don't get added back to the rotation in the future? doubly liked for the boomboom command! Huskie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealEstufa Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 21461 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 18 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 215 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 173 Achievement Points: 1864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/30/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 31, 2019 Birthday: 06/01/1988 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 Sometimes the voting isnt just abused by non admins...but the voting of maps would get abused surely and a single map wouldn't last like 1 minute because they're always some people who hate sniper maps, or those who love them. Those who hate dark or big maps and those who do, it'll always be that way...but I do like what alpha said, that's a good idea. This would be negated by a vote system at the start of the round for a map, and what ever map has the most votes is picked. I'm not talking about changing to a map and then voting to accept or skip it. Huskie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uranium Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 22485 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 245 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 151 Achievement Points: 1588 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 11:33 PM Birthday: 06/26/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 We used to have that. People could type !like or !dislike. As far as I know, the results were never taken into account when rotations were made because the voting results were ambiguous. Most of the maps were liked by the majority. There were almost no maps that everyone hated, and most of the maps that people typically complained about were split 50/50 on the votes. Ahh okay. Just thought I'd mention because everyone (not me though, it's a great map) seems to hate this one map (I forget the name, it's kind of open, has a few towers, and a big tank/jeep parking area) and is usually voted to skip when an admin is there (or sometimes switched without a vote). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Tim Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 20489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 170 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 105 Achievement Points: 1217 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/30/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 09:23 AM Birthday: 01/02/1995 Device: Windows Share Posted August 17, 2015 We used to have that. People could type !like or !dislike. As far as I know, the results were never taken into account when rotations were made because the voting results were ambiguous. Most of the maps were liked by the majority. There were almost no maps that everyone hated, and most of the maps that people typically complained about were split 50/50 on the votes. I've been working on something to see what maps people do and do not like ( http://c4.timpotze.nl/198.27.126.80:28960 ). Do you know who I can contact to get some !like/!dislike stats to update the statistics and build some map rotations out of that data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Icequeen Posted August 17, 2015 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6095 Content Per Day: 1.52 Reputation: 7994 Achievement Points: 51462 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 54 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) If society listened to every grump opposed to change, we would still be plebing it up for our masters in the stone age. also, I have a hard time believing someone would have difficulty 'understanding' such a change. Every new mod we have people bitchin' and moanin', but the server population remains steady; I don't see this as an exception to that rule. The entire point of this suggestion is based on the freeztag server, I and most who are reading this are much less concerned with another server. Believe it. It happens. And along with the grumpy comes majority and unfortunately it rules. Wouldn't go over so well on the freezetag server is all I'm saying. Which is why I suggested another server among others as well. Edited August 18, 2015 by Gossamyr Gatorgirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Damage_inc- Posted August 18, 2015 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.37 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted August 18, 2015 the map vote and game style vote works on other mods elsewhere and there servers are always populated because its always something fresh and it would be a great addition here and yes sometimes most of the time tdm is picked by those who vote .sometimes other gamestyles are picked too -look its a vote system to give more options .its called change and not the same map list over and over with the same game play. RealEstufa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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