UK out of the EU

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[FRENCHI]

il va falloir commencé par arrêté de parlé anglais en europe    . C  est peu être une bonne chose ou une mauvaise , l avenir le dira ..... Pour commencé je pense que UK surtout  U va exploser lol . Je ne connait pas la constitution britanique , mais il semble que l ecosse voudrais rester européenne et peut être aussi irlande du nord .... Ce qui cerai peut etre pour l angleterre une bonne chose , car je vois mal une frontière possible entre l ecosse et le reste de l angleterre .... La monnaie anglaise a dévalué de 10 pour cent le premier jour ce qui est ridicule ... La bourse a dévissé aussi mais très peut de mon point de vue .... L angleterre va acheté plus cher , mais avec une monnaie plus faible elle va être très compétitive en europe    . Les politique anglais avait déjà tout calculé , sinon il n aurai pas fait un tel vote . .... En conclusion : rien ne va changer en europe si ce n est que l angleterre va bien en profiter .... 

[JohnnyNashville]

Congrats UK! obama wanted you to stay in the EU so of course I wanted you to leave the EU. I just wish the US would pull out of NATO, Texas would form it's own nation and Southern California would secede to Mexico...

 

johnny

[BiG CheesE]

I wish Sweden would folliw the example

[Morris]

Promises? If we're talking promises then we could discuss the promise that "the only way to guarantee Scotland's continued membership in Europe is to vote No" in said referendum - a point that was laboured heavily here, and in no small way contributed to a vote for the status quo.

 

Yet lo and behold, here we are, 18 months later - being dragged out of Europe despite a huge majority of Scots voting against the move. Broken promises cut both ways.

 

Do the Scots hate the rest of the UK? Fuck no. Do we hate being pulled around on wild jingoistic adventures like this because there happen to be too few of us to influence the collective regardless of how we vote? Hell yes.

As I remember it, there was no promise made of remaining part of the EU during the Scottish referendum!! certainly not in any debate I watched and I watched a few, it was a vote to remain part of the UK and a vote that took place and a clear indication that Scotts wanted to remain part of the UK. Despite the underhand tactics of allowing 16 years olds a vote..... yet a Scott serving in the military based outside Scotland (not their choice but the choice of the crown) were not afforded a vote!! It was a shame and a disgrace, to be shunned by my own nation's politicians truly disgusting. Besides be realistic what revenue does Scotland have? in short and apart from tourism none!! the oil belongs to other counties such as the USA and so on, do you really think they will give that up? So with very little in the sense of economy, how does the SNP intend to raise the 7million membership fee per week to be part of the EU?    

Edited June 26, 2016 by Morris

[Sammy]

True. No promises. But leaving the EU probably wasnt something that was considered to ever be successful. Same thing can happen in the states. People just dont think its possible. Until it is. A lot can change in a short period of time. Heard about the shenanigans on that vote in the press but cant say I know much about them or how they happened.

 

Oh and we have our own shenanigans here that make those in Scotland look like child's play.

[dudebroman]

Scotland have a crap deal. Despite voting to remain, if they get independence from the UK, they automatically lose their status within the EU and have to meet the conditions to reapply. This includes schendgen and taking the euro within a set time frame.

 

This was told to them at the time and was told it would apply to any nation wanting to secede from a major one (like catalonia from Spain or Normandy and Britanny from france)

Edited June 26, 2016 by netphlix_n_chill

[hxtr]

No, Germany has no immigration problem. We have a lot of refugees which are seeking asylum. They are not immigrants. And they are not a problem. In fact we took in about 1Mio refugees in one year. Many of them get their application for asylum rejected because they are economical refugees and not war refugees.

Germany will even benefit from those who will stay. Most of them are young, they are going to be educted in Germany or they are already well educated. They are going to be valuable for our economy, demographics and society. Germany as a whole is not afraid of them. We have a potential of 10% - 15% xenophobic voters in Germany. But that is fading at the moment because the refugee issue turns out to be not a problem.

 

What you repeat about raping and so on is right wing populist rhetoric and prophaganda with no grounds of truth. There were only two bigger incident in Cologne and Hamburg where a few hundred refugees and other people gathered and some of them harrassed women and pick pocketed. There was no raping involved.

 

In Germany as in many other countries xenophobia only exists among those who have barely or never been in contact with people from other countries and cultures. Look at the votes in London. The majority of all immigrants in the UK lives and works in London. London clearly voted Remain.

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Another alarming thing about the referendum is this: Link

 

It shows that probably Brexit voters who fell for the exaggerated populist claims of the Brexit campain are now - after the vote - actually being interested what they really voted for.

 

One thing is clear these days, whether it's in the US or in the UK. Stupid has the numbers. (no offense)

 

Questions with this kind of impact on not only the own country  and the EU but basically the whole world should not be decided in referendums by ordinary half informed people who decide subjectively and not rational. Who mostly don't care about the ramifications and the future etc.

 

Without any judgement:

Statistic says that UK's

young people voted remain

That educated people voted remain

That less educated people voted leave

That older people voted leave

 

One last thing:

A referendum like this can not happen in Germany. Decisions on this level are being made by the "Bundestag" (German Parliament). The members of the parliament are being elected by all German citizens over 18 every 4 years.

You dont see the Globalists plan. I see you dont see. Have fun with that.

[Sammy]

Yup its quite simple. Before you vote find out for yourself what the facts are. Directly. Dont others tell you what the facts are.

[PimpedOutPete]

That mane the case Sammy but to many people vote the party line because they would not even consider an alternative. My father for one.. He wouldn't even consider the candidates platform was, he voted one direction regardless.

[DEEJAYKEG]

In Germany as in many other countries xenophobia only exists among those who have barely or never been in contact with people from other countries and cultures. Look at the votes in London. The majority of all immigrants in the UK lives and works in London. London clearly voted Remain.

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Without any judgement:

Statistic says that UK's

young people voted remain

That educated people voted remain

That less educated people voted leave

That older people voted leave

 

One last thing:

A referendum like this can not happen in Germany. Decisions on this level are being made by the "Bundestag" (German Parliament). The members of the parliament are being elected by all German citizens over 18 every 4 years.

 

Your assertion about London is incorrect.  If you're interested in the facts, here's a link to them:

http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/migrants-uk-overview

 

You seem to have concocted a non sequitur based on a lack of understanding.  Have you considered the previous voting behaviour of Londoners?

 

You also seem to support the preposterous notion that those who dared exercise their democratic right to tick the box on the ballot paper to leave are poorly educated.  Quite a sweeping statement, I would say.

 

Germany can do what is right for Germany - that is self-determination.  However, the people of the UK decided to do what is right for our country.

 

Are politicians so trustworthy by the way?  One MP here has suggested that Parliament blocks the exit!  He used to be a government minister!

[Sammy]

Too often 'the people' are poorly educated on a particular subject or candidate. Not that they arent otherwise smart. Just uninformed. Their own fault however. The information to get educated is there.

[Sonovabich]

Your assertion about London is incorrect.  If you're interested in the facts, here's a link to them:

http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/migrants-uk-overview

 

You seem to have concocted a non sequitur based on a lack of understanding.  Have you considered the previous voting behaviour of Londoners?

 

You also seem to support the preposterous notion that those who dared exercise their democratic right to tick the box on the ballot paper to leave are poorly educated.  Quite a sweeping statement, I would say.

 

Germany can do what is right for Germany - that is self-determination.  However, the people of the UK decided to do what is right for our country.

 

Are politicians so trustworthy by the way?  One MP here has suggested that Parliament blocks the exit!  He used to be a government minister!

Well said Keggy, they ain't got a fucking clue about the UK they only make snidy remarks because deep down they would like to have a "DEMOCRATIC" vote too but as there is nothing at all "DEMOCRATIC"  about the EU it will never happen, already other countries are asking for their own referendum only to be slapped down by their politicians and told to behave themselves, i don't get all this hostility, especially from the German's,Bild newspaper for example calling us "Little Britain" it is a UK matter, not a matter for anyone else, i even see many remarks that they are happy to see us leave and that they don't need us, if that is the case slap us on the back and wish us well instead of all the childish bile, just let us get on with it please and take our place with the other 170 countries in the world that can manage without the EU  but but they can't do that and by God if they are happy they are certainly not half as happy as we are to leave this organisation, i am just waiting to see when Greenlands growth overtakes the EU's growth because at the moment it is the only one in the world growing slower than the EU and they say we will fail, we have already triumphed by leaving, i hope we are the first Domino to fall and i can only wish every other European who wants out of this crap the very best and hope it happens soon, but if it don't it's ok, after all they will have Albania, Serbia and Turkey joining soon to take our place.......better start saving your Euros Merkel, more bailouts are coming.

Edited June 27, 2016 by Sonovabich

[TheLastColdBeer]

Was eyeing the currency exchanges, and the pound looks like it isn't going into freefall. Was looking to buy a block of sterling if the rate hit $1.20, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. So much for the Sky is Falling panic. Really, what has changed in the world since the UK's vote? All the crying & loss is on paper. Reality will take hold soon enough, and the sun will rise in the morning.

[Mossticles]

Well said Keggy, they ain't got a fucking clue about the UK they only make snidy remarks because deep down they would like to have a "DEMOCRATIC" vote too but as there is nothing at all "DEMOCRATIC"  about the EU it will never happen, already other countries are asking for their own referendum only to be slapped down by their politicians and told to behave themselves, i don't get all this hostility, especially from the German's,Bild newspaper for example calling us "Little Britain" it is a UK matter, not a matter for anyone else, i even see many remarks that they are happy to see us leave and that they don't need us, if that is the case slap us on the back and wish us well instead of all the childish bile, just let us get on with it please and take our place with the other 170 countries in the world that can manage without the EU  but but they can't do that and by God if they are happy they are certainly not half as happy as we are to leave this organisation, i am just waiting to see when Greenlands growth overtakes the EU's growth because at the moment it is the only one in the world growing slower than the EU and they say we will fail, we have already triumphed by leaving, i hope we are the first Domino to fall and i can only wish every other European who wants out of this crap the very best and hope it happens soon, but if it don't it's ok, after all they will have Albania, Serbia and Turkey joining soon to take our place.......better start saving your Euros Merkel, more bailouts are coming.

 

Tell me more about how you know nothing about the EU.

[Sonovabich]

Tell me more about how you know nothing about the EU.

Why don't you mind your own fucking business and take care of your own rotten country, this has fuck all to do with you or anyone else except people from the UK apart that now you have to find another £18 billion from another country to bail someone else out of the mess you will put them in, keep your beaks out of the UK's business clever shite, this was our referendum, what's the matter have we spoiled your little European domination plans again go and take a running jump and fuck off.

Edited June 28, 2016 by Sonovabich

[EDD THE DUCK]

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