SABRE Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 2236 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 265 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 266 Achievement Points: 2149 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/20/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 02:03 AM Birthday: 08/10/1975 Device: Windows Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) So for my career, I lead a team of auto damage adjuster and for the most part, I love my job and my team is one of the best in the state of Florida. With that being said, I get a lot of request for adjusters who are sucking at their job to come to my team to help them turn their numbers around. Recently, I let this one adjuster come to my team and I told her from the beginning that I am going to have to re-train her since she has a lot of bad habits and I will not tolerate those type of habits on my team. I have noticed that if her day doesn't go a 100% as planned, she gets very frustrated and starts to shut down and make mistakes. I talked to her about it this morning and I told her that in our career, our day will never go as planned and that she needed to adjust to what is being thrown at her by these customers and body shops. What does she do next, she shuts down on me just because I tried to have a conversation with her about this!!! OK...i am done with my BITCHING for the day Edited August 21, 2019 by SABRE Evil-Monkey , AyaqGuyaq and ANGUS 1 1 1 Awards
MikeB Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 59 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2174 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 2415 Achievement Points: 15578 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 20 hours ago Device: Windows Posted August 21, 2019 Easy fix !!! Say these few words !! "Your Fired" !!!! Some people, especially the younger ones 20's to early 30's, shut down when confronted about their weaknesses. Well hell, they hate anything that rubs them the wrong way. And thats about everything in life !!! Remember your team is as strong as your "weakest link". Let-em go !!!! Awards
SABRE Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 2236 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 265 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 266 Achievement Points: 2149 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/20/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 02:03 AM Birthday: 08/10/1975 Device: Windows Author Posted August 21, 2019 I wish it was that easy. With my company, HR makes the management team jump through hoops to fire an employee. AyaqGuyaq 1 Awards
RobMc Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted August 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, SABRE said: she shuts down on me just because I tried to have a conversation with her about this!!! You married ????????? Icequeen, AyaqGuyaq and TBB 3
SABRE Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 2236 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 265 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 266 Achievement Points: 2149 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/20/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 02:03 AM Birthday: 08/10/1975 Device: Windows Author Posted August 21, 2019 Yeah i am married and no i will not treat this female employee like my wife. She will get treated like any other adjuster on my team. Sorry I felt that was the way you were going to go with your question!!! AyaqGuyaq and ANGUS 2 Awards
algebrat Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 27911 Group: ++ Insurgency Admin Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 48 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 31 Achievement Points: 335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 10, 2022 Posted August 21, 2019 I think he was saying you should marry her GHO5T 1 Awards
SABRE Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 2236 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 265 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 266 Achievement Points: 2149 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/20/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 02:03 AM Birthday: 08/10/1975 Device: Windows Author Posted August 21, 2019 That will never happen...she is way under my league!!!! TBB, algebrat, Icequeen and 1 other 2 2 Awards
RobMc Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted August 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, SABRE said: Yeah i am married and no i will not treat this female employee like my wife. She will get treated like any other adjuster on my team. Sorry I felt that was the way you were going to go with your question!!! It was a joke Sabre, now get your ass into acemod in one hour
Icequeen Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 90 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6201 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 8199 Achievement Points: 52535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 60 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 02:21 AM Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Posted August 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, SABRE said: That will never happen...she is way under my league!!!! And this right here.....is why you can't get through to people. Stop being a shallow asshole. Maybe try a different approach with her and see how that works. Angelz and Unchileno 1 1 Awards
algebrat Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 27911 Group: ++ Insurgency Admin Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 48 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 31 Achievement Points: 335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 10, 2022 Posted August 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Icequeen said: And this right here.....is why you can't get through to people. Stop being a shallow asshole. Maybe try a different approach with her and see how that works. I agree she might be hot on the inside. Just remove her skin and see how the red mushy part looks Icequeen and Sixgun 1 1 Awards
ANGUS Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 2985 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1688 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 3056 Achievement Points: 20377 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 12/01/1966 Device: Android Posted August 21, 2019 I have managed groups as small as 2 and as big as 20.. You really just need to know what makes her tic... Share with her what makes your day crazy... When they shut down just let them know at the end of the day her day wasn't as good as it could have been because she let her self down... Her day can only be as good as she makes it...I always try to lead by example, If something needs to be done , Do it . If a attitude needs to be changed, Show by leading with yours... Time will tell. Something that was said earlier that I am getting tired of hearing is the young generation and their hurt feelings and such.. True this generation is not as tough as yours or mine.. But we need to take some responsibility for it..We as a whole made this world for this generation.. I have learned with younger ones under me they truly want to learn ,But people wont take the time to explain in such a way they can wrap their heads around it.. I had a young guy few years back was awful about trying to finish what i was going to say trying to impress me, Then I would have to start over or say it again cause he never would remember what I wanted from him,.. Finally I told him to keep mouth shut and ears open and he would be surprised how much more he retained.. That day changed his approach .. Great young man now... I think by now I know you well enough to know your a patient man ,So you'll do fine.. Good luck.. Now Go back to work slut.. Tired of hearing whine like a beeeeechh Icequeen and RobMc 2 Awards
Angelz Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Posted August 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Icequeen said: And this right here.....is why you can't get through to people. Stop being a shallow asshole. Maybe try a different approach with her and see how that works. Read his sig. He is a marine...nuff said LOL Icequeen 1
AyaqGuyaq Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 3773 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 39 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3138 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 2983 Achievement Points: 24456 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2022 Birthday: 11/03/1966 Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, RobMc said: You married ????????? Hey, @SABRE, forgive my buddy--he is just curious (Yoda) "Bi-curious, are you, hmm?" Lol. Ayaq RobMc 1 Awards
Labob Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted August 21, 2019 Remember you do not find or hire great employees you make them Icequeen, AyaqGuyaq, ANGUS and 1 other 2 1 1 Awards
RobMc Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted August 21, 2019 Good God (falling over) I absolutely agree with Angu5, older people have a natural assumption that they know more and are better, not so, you do get assholes everywhere in life, but anyone who is in charge of other people needs to realise that the major part of their job is to listen and explain. They should also remember that everyone has a bad day, and not everyone can grasp things immediately, that said if they consistently wilfully refuse to work correctly they must go, no doubt. Strangely I found the higher educated ones to be the real arseholes, they would join with a (example) Phd in divinity, knowing nothing about the industry they had joined, they would then milk the old timers dry for their knowledge, then once they thought they knew something would strut around giving the same old timers instructions, this led to the old timers clamming up and saying nothing to everyone new, creating a vicious circle. The things I noticed over the years were the decreasing laughs at work, political correctness, an explosion of non productive skills that seemed to need constant empire building, safety, hr, quality assurance and environmental matters. Once proud Company's with pioneering spirit lost to bullshit and accountants, who now rule the roost, the majority of employees in major corporations know little or nothing about their industry and have not progressed through it. Older and more experienced workers should not consider younger people to be a threat to their jobs, they should take into account they are nervous, unsure and still finding their way, they have to be encouraged, however if their attitude is completely wrong they need to be corrected, and that is getting very difficult to do. Icequeen, AyaqGuyaq and ANGUS 1 2
AyaqGuyaq Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 3773 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 39 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3138 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 2983 Achievement Points: 24456 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2022 Birthday: 11/03/1966 Posted August 21, 2019 You hire for attitude--you can teach the skills, but you can't teach attitude. Ayaq RobMc and ANGUS 2 Awards
RobMc Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted August 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, AyaqGuyaq said: You hire for attitude--you can teach the skills, but you can't teach attitude. Ayaq Are you still employed ??? Icequeen and AyaqGuyaq 1 1
WldPenguin Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 2995 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 185 Topic Count: 790 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 4710 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 7321 Achievement Points: 51115 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 90 Joined: 11/17/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 02/13/1966 Device: Windows Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Angelz said: Read his sig. He is a marine...nuff said LOL Or he was being totally sarcastic, which if you know Sabre, he is most of the time Angelz and RobMc 2 Awards
Angelz Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Posted August 21, 2019 38 minutes ago, WldPenguin said: Or he was being totally sarcastic, which if you know Sabre, he is most of the time I was being sarcastic in a joking way. lol Icequeen and AyaqGuyaq 1 1
algebrat Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 27911 Group: ++ Insurgency Admin Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 48 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 31 Achievement Points: 335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 10, 2022 Posted August 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, Angelz said: I was being sarcastic in a joking way. lol Since everyone is saying they're being sarcastic.... I'm not... Take off her skin and see what the inside red mushy stuff looks like! Lol jk that's hard sarcasm... AyaqGuyaq, SABRE and Angelz 2 1 Awards
Angelz Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Posted August 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, algebrat said: Since everyone is saying they're being sarcastic.... 90% of the peeps on these forums is sarcastic. 2% are not getting it/didn't see, didn't read wasn't thinking or missed the memo 8% are in another world called Pussieville and a bunch of other names I will not post. waaaaawaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaa Icequeen, AyaqGuyaq, algebrat and 1 other 1 3
Icequeen Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 90 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6201 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 8199 Achievement Points: 52535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 60 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 02:21 AM Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Posted August 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Angelz said: 90% of the peeps on these forums is sarcastic. 2% are not getting it/didn't see, didn't read wasn't thinking or missed the memo 8% are in another world called Pussieville and a bunch of other names I will not post. waaaaawaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaa Word! ANGUS 1 Awards
AyaqGuyaq Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 3773 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 39 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3138 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 2983 Achievement Points: 24456 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2022 Birthday: 11/03/1966 Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, RobMc said: Are you still employed ??? Buddy, I'm a-gonna call the Panama Canal Authority right now to ask that they NOT gently-bump your scooter-catamaran, with its Union Jack sail (trailing a long line of beer cans), but instead to go "Full Steam Ahead!!!" and plow through your rickety-ship, sir . . . (Yoda) Hmm? HHMMMNN!!??!! Lol. Ayaq RobMc 1 Awards
Timmah! Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 26443 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 38 Topic Count: 501 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 6181 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 10622 Achievement Points: 52816 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 121 Joined: 11/01/17 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 09/26/1971 Device: Android Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) It's my view that it is an employee's responsibility to have an attitude conducive to the success of their assigned task(s). It's not the employer's job to help them feel better about the job and have a better attitude. That goes from washing dishes, to stacking bourbon barrels, to landscaping, roofing, nursing, delivering pizzas... anything. If a person is immature, impatient, lazy, unmotivated, introverted, unfocused... whatever the issue may be, the onus is upon them to improve. Especially if they're unwilling to take help and advice, then they should be fired. Edited August 21, 2019 by Timmah! grammar Angelz, Icequeen and RobMc 3 Awards
Icequeen Posted August 21, 2019 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 90 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6201 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 8199 Achievement Points: 52535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 60 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 02:21 AM Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Posted August 21, 2019 @Timmah! I agree with you and I don't. I agree that people are always their own person. You wake up and you decide how you want your day to be. If you're gonna be happy....sad....bitter it's all about you. Same goes with your work. However, I think if you are working as a team or with a team you should build eachother up. Bosses, supervisors ect. I don't mean you have to baby people because that's not going to help. If you have a bad manager, boss, supervisor then employees aren't going to succeed. No one wants to come to a workplace that they despise. If you have a good leader and one that you can rely on for to guide you correctly then bam. You have employees who want to make you happy and want to thrive. And I know theres also a point where if you have to keep repeating yourself then unfortunately....ya you are going to have to say okay enough is enough. I also think Angus nailed some of it on the head too. There are so many grey areas sometimes in being a manager and being an employee. I also think this generation lacks the "I need to work" attitude, and some of us don't put up with that. RobMc, Timmah! and Angelz 3 Awards
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