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luckeydogg is hacking on the 32 player hardcore server

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The bf3 admins will keep an eye for him.

 

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I just love how someone comes in and claims someone is hacking.

 

If he is not I would hope the accusers (whiners maybe?) are prepared to offer a sincere public apology.

 

Eventually you just get sick of hacker claims, just play the game unless proof is offered along with the accusation.

 

Yes, I unfortunately am in a bad mood.

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He had scores of 70-0 from  aimbotting so he was clearly hacking. The problem was solved and he was banned by smurf so all is good.

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Good :) ..70-0 is bit difficult lol ...

 

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TY Smurf.... 

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Yesterday there was a player wiht score 54- 0 so We think hey was hacking also :P

Smurf was also online I think hey kicked that player

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The big problem Shamu, and where I think in cases such as this, is there is no spectate of player mode, which means you cannot see what they are doing and how. You can be in their squad, and watch them sort of from a 3rd person view, but you only get 300 seconds, and from the view you get, it offers no real benefit other than knowing where they are from the spectator view and mini map.

 

to get to 70-0 I do find amazing myself, as the games can be very chaotic, random and enemies come form all directions, I am not saying it is impossible, but would be hard to justify getting to that score, even sniping.

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Yup Heff is correct, at the moment we can't specc these players like we do in other games so a decision has to be made, i know from experience in other games that when someone "performs" this well then it usually makes others leave the server, be it right or wrong i would rather lose 1 player then maybe 10 that might leave because of him, i see Steel made another post about this..he is now banned.

 

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dont understand why people feel they have to cheat to play a game omg such lazy fuks they are!!!! i mean why play if ur goin to cheat shows no skills watsover.....if u have to cheat to play why play at all you know....anyway wish i could play bf3 but need video card upgrade and buy the game to expensive for me rt now hope u guys havin fun on there lol enjoy i ll stick to my cod4 ftag for now .....oh heff when u goin back i need someone else to knife lol later guys

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70-0   that is hacking so smurf  good  banned

 

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Wierd.Undecided.cause when I have join..I see a lot of BANS for aimbot..So why wouldnt it ban him...Is he using an undetected AIM BOT?

 

Maybe he was just that good..There are players out there better than us guys..

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There is one location on the Caspian Borders map that is, to all intents and purposes, untouchable by anyone other than a pilot (and a good pilot with a very good aim, I suggest).  Having been shot many times from it (on servers other than the clan's, I must add), I can tell you that it is the topmost gantry on the huge antenna at Point A, near the US spawn.  Having never tried to ascend that mast, I can't say whether there is a ladder up the side or stairs within it but the brief view I have had of the view it affords (from the identification of the killing player in-game) one would be able to see pretty much the whole map from up there.  Snipers have always been using the Recon class and a powerful rifle with scope.  My guess is that the sniper gets there via chopper and may deploy a beacon for respawns up there.

But, surely, to make 70 kills, someone is going to have to be resupplied with ammo sometime?

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There is one location on the Caspian Borders map that is, to all intents and purposes, untouchable by anyone other than a pilot (and a good pilot with a very good aim, I suggest).  Having been shot many times from it (on servers other than the clan's, I must add), I can tell you that it is the topmost gantry on the huge antenna at Point A, near the US spawn.  Having never tried to ascend that mast, I can't say whether there is a ladder up the side or stairs within it but the brief view I have had of the view it affords (from the identification of the killing player in-game) one would be able to see pretty much the whole map from up there.  Snipers have always been using the Recon class and a powerful rifle with scope.  My guess is that the sniper gets there via chopper and may deploy a beacon for respawns up there.

But, surely, to make 70 kills, someone is going to have to be resupplied with ammo sometime?

It is easy to go on top there :P

 

Take a plain or shopper an jump out on top :P

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The big problem Shamu, and where I think in cases such as this, is there is no spectate of player mode, which means you cannot see what they are doing and how. You can be in their squad, and watch them sort of from a 3rd person view, but you only get 300 seconds, and from the view you get, it offers no real benefit other than knowing where they are from the spectator view and mini map.

 

to get to 70-0 I do find amazing myself, as the games can be very chaotic, random and enemies come form all directions, I am not saying it is impossible, but would be hard to justify getting to that score, even sniping.

And another part of the problem, as in this lead post, too often claims of hacking are made without anyone also showing proof or data about the accusation.

 

Any claim of hacking should be supported with data to prove the claim or allow the accused to dispute the claim.

 

An accusation of hacking is extremely offensive to the good honest player and should not be made lightly.

 

My only point is if someone is going to post an accusation of hacking it should be supported with data or not be made in a public forum. Work privately within the XI administration and build your case from within before making a non supported public accusation.

 

I certainly do not think any good honest XI player would appreciate being called a hacker in a public forum no more than a guest would like having it done to them.

 

In FPS gaming it is the ultimate insult if made seriously.

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Shamu as Heff explained we are trying to manage the best we can with limited resources at the moment, a score like that in this game seems quite odd (agreed not impossible) to me, as Deejay said if he was playing as a Sniper then he would have needed to be resupplied with ammo or else is kill rate would have been 100% (even then i don't think you get that much ammo) if he was'nt playing as a Sniper then to run around them maps getting 70 kills and no deaths looks pretty strange to me, Shamu i don't think you have this game so until you experience it and see for yourself how it plays maybe you should not comment on the rights and wrongs of how we are trying to deal with these situations (if you do play the game then i apologise) but lets not forget this player as the right to appeal the ban so lets see what happens.Smile

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Shamu as Heff explained we are trying to manage the best we can with limited resources at the moment, a score like that in this game seems quite odd (agreed not impossible) to me, as Deejay said if he was playing as a Sniper then he would have needed to be resupplied with ammo or else is kill rate would have been 100% (even then i don't think you get that much ammo) if he was'nt playing as a Sniper then to run around them maps getting 70 kills and no deaths looks pretty strange to me, Shamu i don't think you have this game so until you experience it and see for yourself how it plays maybe you should not comment on the rights and wrongs of how we are trying to deal with these situations (if you do play the game then i apologise) but lets not forget this player as the right to appeal the ban so lets see what happens.Smile

SOB, go back and read my post, they all go back in reference to the lead post which merely accused someone of hacking without any support. They are not in reference to anything that has been or can be done from that point on.

 

I understand in forums sometimes the thread thought gets lost because of subsequent information and comments but both of mine are clearly directed to the way the lead post was presented, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Just read the lead post and my comments, nothing else is relative to my posts. Whether or not I even play the game is not relevant in the context of my posts, only ethics.

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Wierd.Undecided.cause when I have join..I see a lot of BANS for aimbot..So why wouldnt it ban him...Is he using an undetected AIM BOT?

 

Maybe he was just that good..There are players out there better than us guys..

 

Wel there are cheats  they not dedected by punkbuster (yet) ore for sale on the internet .

and it correct that you see bans for cheats and hacks

 

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Wierd.Undecided.cause when I have join..I see a lot of BANS for aimbot..So why wouldnt it ban him...Is he using an undetected AIM BOT?

 

Maybe he was just that good..There are players out there better than us guys..

 Well, to put it.  The lower or free hacks out there got busted.  The better hacks out there that you pay alot for and they garentee you to not get caught by valve or pb  usuallly only get caught by a admin or player spectating them.  Same priciple as game.  Pay to play.  It this case.  Pay to hack and not get caught.  And the bad thing is the programers that create pb and valve are probably the ones that write the hacks to get extra money on the side.  Why those hacks dont get caught.  Just my opinion.

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Luckeydogg was removed last night by a ban. Sometimes we handle the "#person takes away the fun" ban. Happens maybe once or twice a year, but yes we have a appeal section.

 

We also make room for >XI< members.

We have trust in the admins or they aren't admins.

 

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The big problem Shamu, and where I think in cases such as this, is there is no spectate of player mode, which means you cannot see what they are doing and how. You can be in their squad, and watch them sort of from a 3rd person view, but you only get 300 seconds, and from the view you get, it offers no real benefit other than knowing where they are from the spectator view and mini map.

 

to get to 70-0 I do find amazing myself, as the games can be very chaotic, random and enemies come form all directions, I am not saying it is impossible, but would be hard to justify getting to that score, even sniping.

+1 agree..

and  I agree with Chile as well.. they are better players out there .. So, only way to tell is to spec them properly..... then jump on to conclusion that they hack...

 

you can achieve that score by either staying in the sky ( jet or chopper) or in the tank with someone is repairing you... I was 71-3 and I was in tank whole time... ppl wouldn't go after my engineer who was repairing it and keeping me alive in tank or they didnt have any strategy going to kill my tank...

 

or may be team u playing against is completely noob...lol then u can get 70-0 for sure...lol

 

the max I reached was 34-0. then I died and that was in the tank...

 

 

 

 

but it would be very difficult with run and gun .I mean very difficult with guns...

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hey i got 70 deaths no kills i have a death hack lol

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Heffalump

The big problem Shamu, and where I think in cases such as this, is there is no spectate of player mode, which means you cannot see what they are doing and how. You can be in their squad, and watch them sort of from a 3rd person view, but you only get 300 seconds, and from the view you get, it offers no real benefit other than knowing where they are from the spectator view and mini map.

 

to get to 70-0 I do find amazing myself, as the games can be very chaotic, random and enemies come form all directions, I am not saying it is impossible, but would be hard to justify getting to that score, even sniping.

And another part of the problem, as in this lead post, too often claims of hacking are made without anyone also showing proof or data about the accusation.

 

Any claim of hacking should be supported with data to prove the claim or allow the accused to dispute the claim.

 

An accusation of hacking is extremely offensive to the good honest player and should not be made lightly.

 

My only point is if someone is going to post an accusation of hacking it should be supported with data or not be made in a public forum. Work privately within the XI administration and build your case from within before making a non supported public accusation.

 

I certainly do not think any good honest XI player would appreciate being called a hacker in a public forum no more than a guest would like having it done to them.

 

In FPS gaming it is the ultimate insult if made seriously.

 

Shamu mate... what the guy's are trying to say is there is no way to gather information or proof in B3 so unfortunately it has to be done by contacting an Admin and then them making an educated guess.

Now I know this is not ideal but we have no other option..

But I do agree it should have been done in the members only section

 

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good job admins is all i can say.... I think we need more admins tho... i have been in there in the mornings for hours at a time with no admin in the game.... Not to say they arent online, idk... With the restrictions of BF3 I have to quit a game to open xfire and find a admin... This Luckeydogg guy was hacking, I spawned in 3 different points in the game within 10 seconds and he killed me everytime!! IMPOSSIBLE!!! I would take screenshots but until there is a tool I can use that doesnt crash my game all I can do is quit game, log on xfire, get admin.... As a member of XI I feel that is my responsibility if I see something i dont like on our servers I will tell an admin!! Then they can decide what to do... FUKIN A RIGHT!!!! lol 

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