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4 hours ago, PimpedOutPete said:

Thank you for the post. If you want to entire picture here they are for the US.

Of the almost 400 million doses given the death rate from adverse reactions is 0.0021 percent. Last time I checked that’s incredibly small.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

 

You could work for CNN Pete. Or doctors don't know math?! LOL There are only 360 ish million people in the States. If 50-60% are vaxxed, call it 200 million. If Vaers documents 1-10%, let's say 10% (80,000 deaths!), that's 0.04%. That's about the same as the survival rate of Covd for most age groups! And this doesn't even consider the  other long term adverse issues people have or will have in the future. I'll take my chances surviving Covid, if I even get it, at 62 years old.

They stopped the Sars Virus Vax at 50 something deaths, so....again, do your own research and decide for yourself! That's all I'm saying on this subject.

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I'm just going to say this. (My own personal experiences here) 

Covid is not a joke to those who have a comprised immune system.  I seriously had the worst time with it. 2 1/2 weeks later and I'm still extremely exhausted and breathing problems. And if this is ignorant or not on my behalf I still believe anyone has a right to choose whether they want the shot or not. My son caught covid as well with me and he just had a stuffy nose. So immune system is a huge key to beating this. I also gave my son some pretty amazing vitamins that some one gave me to help ward off as well. 

I just sat and watched 12 of my strong and vaccinated residents all catch covid and pass away. So please for those who think they know it all what is the answer? Because I really don't feel like the vaccine is. Maybe later on down the road it will improve and alot of people will feel safer taking it. But there's aloy of what ifs and alot of things that just aren't making it look safe enough to take. Now these are just my personal opinion and experience. 

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1 hour ago, LtLaszlo said:

You could work for CNN Pete. Or doctors don't know math?! LOL There are only 360 ish million people in the States. If 50-60% are vaxxed, call it 200 million. If Vaers documents 1-10%, let's say 10% (80,000 deaths!), that's 0.04%. That's about the same as the survival rate of Covd for most age groups! And this doesn't even consider the  other long term adverse issues people have or will have in the future. I'll take my chances surviving Covid, if I even get it, at 62 years old.

They stopped the Sars Virus Vax at 50 something deaths, so....again, do your own research and decide for yourself! That's all I'm saying on this subject.

Lol, you may need to re-read what I said Laz. I mentioned 400 millions “doses” not individuals injected. You have to consider each dose as a potential health risk. A patient may have no adverse reactions once and then suffer from myocarditis or similar events the next time.

There has been 403 millions doses with 8638 deaths which gives you a 0.0021 % mortality rate per dose. What is not included is the underlying health issues theses 8638 individuals may have had prior to vaccination that maybe have contributed to their untimely deaths.

As for your data, please provide information on where those numbers are from, not news organizations but from health organizations.

If you are playing the odds Laz, that’s 8600 deaths compared to 740,000 deaths to covid.  I do agree we don’t know what the long term effects this vaccination has. We do know this technology has been around and involved in cancer treatments for the past 15 years, so the odds are we should be ok.

What you omitted was the adverse long term reactions to Covid to the 740,000 who have had it, most will be ok. 

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25 minutes ago, Icequeen said:

I'm just going to say this. (My own personal experiences here) 

Covid is not a joke to those who have a comprised immune system.  I seriously had the worst time with it. 2 1/2 weeks later and I'm still extremely exhausted and breathing problems. And if this is ignorant or not on my behalf I still believe anyone has a right to choose whether they want the shot or not. My son caught covid as well with me and he just had a stuffy nose. So immune system is a huge key to beating this. I also gave my son some pretty amazing vitamins that some one gave me to help ward off as well. 

I just sat and watched 12 of my strong and vaccinated residents all catch covid and pass away. So please for those who think they know it all what is the answer? Because I really don't feel like the vaccine is. Maybe later on down the road it will improve and alot of people will feel safer taking it. But there's aloy of what ifs and alot of things that just aren't making it look safe enough to take. Now these are just my personal opinion and experience. 

Great first hand information Queen, well said. 

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On 10/9/2021 at 12:59 AM, J3st3r said:

 

Sorry but you are quite incorrect. Vaccinated people can and do still contract this Virus.

My Sister in law works in the health care profession and she has been vaccinated. She also caught this Virus, not once but Twice after being fully vaccinated. The symptoms and severity are lessened in most cases depending on your immune systems ability to fight it, but it Does Not keep you from catching or transmitting this Virus.

The fact is that you can be more deadly to those that are Vaccinated and Non Vaccinated alike if you think that you can not catch and transmit this Virus after being Vaccinated.

 

A vaccinated person could carry it around for over a week before feeling any sort of symptom and even then it can act like a common Allergy or mild common cold. The question then becomes How many people can you infect within that week? And are you going to self quarantine and get tested every single time you catch a sniffle? I think not.     

 

 

So then lets all lock-down again the countries to be safe then????

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9 hours ago, major-mark63 said:

So then lets all lock-down again the countries to be safe then????

 

It's probably the only way this shit will really end isn't it? Realistically the whole world would have to go into strict lock down for 3-4 weeks to make sure but that will never work since people need to eat.

Me? I would have no problem surviving a real lock down.    

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12 hours ago, major-mark63 said:

So then lets all lock-down again the countries to be safe then????

NO, let's allow the therapeutics that DO fucking work, unlike what our and your lying media are saying and fully open the fucking world (Like India is doing). Did any of you watch anything I posted or you just wrote them off as BS?  OMG! There is something else in play here, so quit being mindless sheep just to get on a fucking plane or go to a bar! Oh wait, vaxxed pilots are dying in-flight and the rest are walking. Hmmm? Fortunately, Southwest wised up and said screw the mandate from useless, asshole Obiden. Our country is in the toilette from  this corrupt, braindead "president". Why are hundreds of medical professionals walking away from careers they've invested years and money in?! Better wake the fuck up before it's too late! Or don't. Go get your third, then fourth jab, whatever! Done!

This is one of the best vidoes of the truth, from one of the best. Not a basement dweller! If you didn't watch any others, at least watch this one:

https://rumble.com/vnhjq1-winning-the-war-against-therapeutic-nihilism-dr.-peter-mccullough.html

And BTW Icequeen, thank you. And how many of those deaths were reported to VAERS?! Or were they just considered "old"?! This is the lie! You'll die of heart issues, cancer, etc, but they won't say it's the vax!

Pete, I did understand your numbers. But you can't use that number of shots as ratio to deaths.

Pain, they'll need to hold me down to jab me! Never! For the "betterment of humanity"? Your sure of this?! I don't want my DNA to be modified, forever, not to mention the poisons and spike proteins in it! No Way! You who did, God be with you!

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Your choice your body so be careful Laszlo . But sooner or later you will get this thing especcially once the mask thing goes away. The finnal step to freedom. 

P.S. I'm glad we still have as many rugrats as we do. So thank you vaccines. Here's the list of what our children get so they can and do have a happy long life.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/healthy-living/canadian-immunization-guide-part-1-key-immunization-information/page-13-recommended-immunization-schedules.html#p1c12a2 

I have them all too 🙂 I wonder if my little leg size has something to do with them ? 

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1 hour ago, Labob said:

Your choice your body so be careful Laszlo . But sooner or later you will get this thing especcially once the mask thing goes away. The finnal step to freedom. 

P.S. I'm glad we still have as many rugrats as we do. So thank you vaccines. Here's the list of what our children get so they can and do have a happy long life.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/healthy-living/canadian-immunization-guide-part-1-key-immunization-information/page-13-recommended-immunization-schedules.html#p1c12a2 

I have them all too 🙂 I wonder if my little leg size has something to do with them ? 

That's right, my body and choice. And no I won't because the mandates are coming to an end here in the US soon, WATCH! They're not entirely even started here, not vax anyway. I can retire anytime, so no job mandate here and we're less than 100 people anway! I sure hope you don't vax the kids. You've got a strange definition of "Freedom" in Canada! Oh, that's right, you're basically socialist now. And I guess your media is blocking LARGE world wide protests, like our MSM. Fucking corruption is rampant - the swamp is deep! But it will be drained! Watch! It's happening here in the US! "They won't be able to walk down the streets!"

Not only the college sports!! LOL! These two have ZERO respect left!

FU Biden.JPG

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Hey Laz !!  All you have to do is ask these commie snowflake Biden supporters this one question.   Make a list of the things he has done to better the average US Citizen !!  They can not !!  They see his fuck ups, but still feel his leg hair !!!  Damn Commies !!!  They will be changing their tune if his tax agenda gets approved.  Especially concerning your banking.  They want to turn your bank into a branch of the IRS.

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1 hour ago, MikeB said:

ey Laz !!  All you have to do is ask these commie snowflake Biden supporters this one question.   Make a list of the things he has done to better the average US Citizen !!  They can not !!

I can not speak for the Americans I'm Canadian But I can speak for the majirity of the world. Biden got rid of I would type it out but that would make this go political 🙂

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If you mean Trump, no worries. Sure, that's why protestors still carry Trump flags in France, Australia, etc. And Biden is will go down as a total laughing  disgrace, as he should! Americans will take Trump any day. Many in voter regret right now, though they cheated anyway (but yes, a whole separate topic I'm not fighting about with any of you -wait). Your countries are suffering now because he is NOT our president. The global corruption continues until this is fixed. He'll be back sooner than later! WATCH!

More good info found today:

Kirsch to FDA.pdf

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5 hours ago, MikeB said:

Hey Laz !!  All you have to do is ask these commie snowflake Biden supporters this one question.   Make a list of the things he has done to better the average US Citizen !!  They can not !!  They see his fuck ups, but still feel his leg hair !!!  Damn Commies !!!  They will be changing their tune if his tax agenda gets approved.  Especially concerning your banking.  They want to turn your bank into a branch of the IRS.

Oh Mikey! You sound like a sore loser, don’t be a hater now.

 Don’t listen to him Laz, he has been asking me that for weeks and I won’t just to be spiteful plus its amusing to see Mikey and Ted lose their minds lol. Sometimes I run into the room a yell Trump and they lose it lol. 😆

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4 hours ago, Labob said:

I can not speak for the Americans I'm Canadian But I can speak for the majirity of the world. Biden got rid of I would type it out but that would make this go political 🙂

Well put buddy, 👍

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I am fully vaccinated and have been since the beginning of the year. I don't really care about any of the numbers. I am Canadian and I see it as my civic duty to take a small shot in the arm to keep my family as well as my society healthy. We live in a world with other people in close proximity. If I were to die early, because of getting this little shot, then I would rather be dead with the millions of smart people who have taken the shot then be alive with the few conspiracy theorists who will be left to run the world in to the ground. Just my opinion...I do hope you all stay healthy and none of us get this damn thing. And sympathies to the families and friends of the ones we have lost!

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8 hours ago, LtLaszlo said:

NO, let's allow the therapeutics that DO fucking work, unlike what our and your lying media are saying and fully open the fucking world (Like India is doing). Did any of you watch anything I posted or you just wrote them off as BS?  OMG! There is something else in play here, so quit being mindless sheep just to get on a fucking plane or go to a bar! Oh wait, vaxxed pilots are dying in-flight and the rest are walking. Hmmm? Fortunately, Southwest wised up and said screw the mandate from useless, asshole Obiden. Our country is in the toilette from  this corrupt, braindead "president". Why are hundreds of medical professionals walking away from careers they've invested years and money in?! Better wake the fuck up before it's too late! Or don't. Go get your third, then fourth jab, whatever! Done!

This is one of the best vidoes of the truth, from one of the best. Not a basement dweller! If you didn't watch any others, at least watch this one:

https://rumble.com/vnhjq1-winning-the-war-against-therapeutic-nihilism-dr.-peter-mccullough.html

And BTW Icequeen, thank you. And how many of those deaths were reported to VAERS?! Or were they just considered "old"?! This is the lie! You'll die of heart issues, cancer, etc, but they won't say it's the vax!

Pete, I did understand your numbers. But you can't use that number of shots as ratio to deaths.

Pain, they'll need to hold me down to jab me! Never! For the "betterment of humanity"? Your sure of this?! I don't want my DNA to be modified, forever, not to mention the poisons and spike proteins in it! No Way! You who did, God be with you!

I’m quoting data from factual healthcare records, either way you count them the stats support my point. I have given data from Provincial & National health records from 2 countries, I can easily do more but it would be silly.

Laz, my friend.. I am in support of you doing as you wish for I believe in your own personal freedoms. What frustrates me is the push by anti-Vaxers to discourage others from getting the vaccinated. If we are to respect your personal choice then shouldn’t you respect others as well? 

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5 minutes ago, ViPRZ said:

I am fully vaccinated and have been since the beginning of the year. I don't really care about any of the numbers. I am Canadian and I see it as my civic duty to take a small shot in the arm to keep my family as well as my society healthy. We live in a world with other people in close proximity. If I were to die early, because of getting this little shot, then I would rather be dead with the millions of smart people who have taken the shot then be alive with the few conspiracy theorists who will be left to run the world in to the ground. Just my opinion...I do hope you all stay healthy and none of us get this damn thing. And sympathies to the families and friends of the ones we have lost!

Excellent point considering we have lost some very dear friends. 

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I really hate when people constantly start posts about this. You guys get a sick trip on watching idiots fight? I am personally so damn tired of Covid. Couldn't we talk about something else.....? It's getting to a mute point of no one is right and no one is wrong. 

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16 minutes ago, PimpedOutPete said:

Oh Mikey! You sound like a sore loser, don’t be a later now.

 Don’t listen to him Laz, he has been asking me that for weeks and I won’t just to be spiteful plus its amusing to see Mikey and Ted lose their minds lol. Sometimes I run into the room a yell Trump and they lose it lol. 😆

Tell the truth Pete.   You can not think of one damn thing  🤣   I asked the same question over a month ago.  And you still can not think of anything.  I can give you a huge ass list of his fuck ups, if you would like.  And some led to deaths of our military personnel and Afghan children !!!  But thats fine, keep telling everyone you dont have the time, or do not want to be spiteful 🤥 !!   Pinocchio Pete !!!

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38 minutes ago, PimpedOutPete said:

I’m quoting data from factual healthcare records, either way you count them the stats support my point. I have given data from Provincial & National health records from 2 countries, I can easily do more but it would be silly.

Laz, my friend.. I am in support of you doing as you wish for I believe in your own personal freedoms. What frustrates me is the push by anti-Vaxers to discourage others from getting the vaccinated. If we are to respect your personal choice then shouldn’t you respect others as well? 

Covid stats are very skewed.  Hospitals report Covid as the cause of death for many that did not die from it.   We discussed this in lengths last year.  Hospitals received (and still do) government kick backs for any reported covid death.   Its about the money.   Its a shame current politicians see covid as a way to implement "socialist" ideology.  Or for the medical field to take advantage in some situations.   But just watch any football game on TV,  visit any store (other than ones Cal, and NY) and you will see the average Joe is back to living a normal life.  Get it, dont get it.  I dont give a rats ass, its your choice.   Time to move on with life !!!   Have a great weekend everyone !!!!

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43 minutes ago, MikeB said:

Tell the truth Pete.   You can not think of one damn thing  🤣   I asked the same question over a month ago.  And you still can not think of anything.  I can give you a huge ass list of his fuck ups, if you would like.  And some led to deaths of our military personnel and Afghan children !!!  But thats fine, keep telling everyone you dont have the time, or do not want to be spiteful 🤥 !!   Pinocchio Pete !!!

See what I mean? Bahahaha  This is way to easy 😉😆

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