Joe Canadian Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted January 16, 2013 Lance Armstrong finally admitted he was on the juice when he won 7 Tour de France titles. One of his sponsors was the US Postal Service. Would you send his ass to jail? Awards
Hemps Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2013 if you send him to jail you have to send the rest of them bikers too, cause it is said most of them juice anyway. they just got armstrong out cause he was beating them at there own game. chavez, pancakes, KaptCrunch and 6 others 9 Awards
JACKO:) Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 4474 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 25 Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1065 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 374 Achievement Points: 7622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 3, 2014 Birthday: 09/30/1975 Posted January 16, 2013 if you send him to jail you have to send the rest of them bikers too, cause it is said most of them juice anyway. they just got armstrong out cause he was beating them at there own game. +1 JohnnyQuest 1
hxtr Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted January 16, 2013 i did not understand what he did to win since it was not detected ever. Him pumping blood in his body to help with fatigue. I think he should loose every dime he has earned having to do with his wins. Like the post office... every dime. He is worth some 100 million dollars. I would like to see all that taken away. I supported him over and over due to the allegations over the years. And him beating cancer... he became a hero to many coming back and winning again. Sports have very little credibility left. You just dont know who is cheating and who is just a great player like MJ. Jail... not sure. Rather seem him poor first. JohnnyQuest, Tristan, baldie and 1 other 4
Spartacus Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 1387 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2540 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2486 Achievement Points: 19555 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 06/05/1968 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2013 You can make an arguement based in monitary gain from fraud..... Joe Canadian 1 Awards
little_old_man Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted January 16, 2013 Lying and cheating seem to be the norm in our world today. The postal service paid him 10 milliion to put their logo on his shirt. As far as I can tell he fulfilled his obligation to them. He never guaranteed he would win or that he would win without cheating. In fact there were allegations of cheating before the USPS was his sponsor. They got what they paid for as far as I'm concerned. People lie for financial gain and for attention. We had two XI members lie about one of them having cancer. Politicians and lawyers lie every day of their professional lives. The former CEO of Yahoo lied about his college degree and was fired for it. For whatever reason, lying has become easier than telling the truth in our world. It sucks, but there isn't much any of us can do about it, other than telling the truth. KaptCrunch, Spartacus, JohnnyQuest and 5 others 8 Awards
Sonovabich Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2013 Yes he made a fortune out of cheating, throw his grimy arse behind bars. Sf.Petru and hxtr 2
Spartacus Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 1387 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2540 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2486 Achievement Points: 19555 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 06/05/1968 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2013 Does anyone remember truth in advertising laws or anti-defamation laws? Wow this country has changed very much. When I was a kid, if you pulled bullshit like Lance did, you would never work again! BigPapaDean and hxtr 2 Awards
KaptCrunch Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 316 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4876 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4056 Achievement Points: 39456 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 51 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 28 minutes ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2013 mass media mind rape: christmas ......does really santa come down chimmy little_old_man blame the capitalistic society for greed wins no matter what cost indignity lance is laughing all the way to the bank but can he walk the streets now with out fear money and friends are soon partted Awards
pancakes Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 2395 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 800 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 217 Achievement Points: 5471 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10, 2024 Birthday: 07/22/1994 Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) So what if he was juiced. So were most of the other top 3 finishers every year he won Being stripped of his wins i understand but putting him in jail there is no point if you put him in jail then you would have to put everyone else who juiced in jail also Edited January 16, 2013 by pancakes Hemps 1 Awards
JohnnyQuest Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 1965 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1176 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 1082 Achievement Points: 8599 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 15, 2016 Birthday: 02/11/1969 Posted January 16, 2013 he got to hump Sheryl Crow cause he had fast pedals...lol...the stoop. The bigger the lie the more people will believe it,,,,what i don't understand is why did he admit it?, If you lied your way for all 7 of the tour de France races why would you come clean after the fact.? Maybe something came back to bite him for the seeds he sewed..Life has a funny way of doing that..seems to me like a publicity stunt for future movie roles as a swindler..he he JACKO:) 1
Bogleg Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 907 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 96 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2731 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 3928 Achievement Points: 26177 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 16 Birthday: 02/10/1969 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France Scroll down, read it and weep if you are a cycling fan. The greatest American cyclist remains Greg Lemond. And the world's current greatest is probably Cadel Evans who has multiple top 3 finishes in the TdF with no positive tests and no implications. Carlos Sastre is another who was robbed his entire career, apparently. Awards
LandShark Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 698 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1145 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 7232 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 15, 2024 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2013 Yep, while you're at it jail that third grade soccer player who was drinking energy drinks before the big game It all starts with those evil energy drinks Awards
Joe Canadian Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Author Posted January 16, 2013 Lying and cheating seem to be the norm in our world today. The postal service paid him 10 milliion to put their logo on his shirt. As far as I can tell he fulfilled his obligation to them. He never guaranteed he would win or that he would win without cheating. In fact there were allegations of cheating before the USPS was his sponsor. They got what they paid for as far as I'm concerned. People lie for financial gain and for attention. We had two XI members lie about one of them having cancer. Politicians and lawyers lie every day of their professional lives. The former CEO of Yahoo lied about his college degree and was fired for it. For whatever reason, lying has become easier than telling the truth in our world. It sucks, but there isn't much any of us can do about it, other than telling the truth. I agree, lying is one thing but lying under oath is called perjury or forswearing. I have always been a big fan of Armstrong as a sportsman and as a person who came back from Cancer. I was even on his side when he denied doping allegations and fought everyone who dared calling him a cheater. Looks like one of his sponsors interviewed him in 1998, and he denied, under oath that he was cheating and that he would ever cheat. Not sure whether it was the US Postal Service or not... Awards
PnBear Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 467 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 59 Topic Count: 151 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1721 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 279 Achievement Points: 10631 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 24 Birthday: 09/11/1968 Device: Macintosh Posted January 16, 2013 I think we should put Pete Rose in charge of what should happen to him BigPapaDean and Bogleg 2 Awards
Astronomer Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 2069 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 214 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2411 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2409 Achievement Points: 18298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 08/08/1966 Posted January 16, 2013 He sued a British newspaper for defamation when they accused him of doping. He won, and had to pay. He needs to re-pay them with interest, legal fees, damages, and suffer any penalty relating to his perjury. Any instance where he lied under oath should be dealt with under the law. If there are any US laws requiring penalties for doping in sports, try him in an open court. His celebrity should have no factor in this. Try him for law violations like any one else would be tried. baldie and TheLastColdBeer 2 Awards
TecHnOBoY Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Posted January 16, 2013 I hate cheaters in-game! But there is nothing worse than "real-life-cheaters" like Armstrong. If one of US would cheat on other people, companies or authorities we would get punished with fine or imprisionment. He stole milliions and i suggest he is not able to pay all the money back and finally he destroyed the reputation of all other racers and the whole bike sports. I see no reason why he should NOT go to jail? FU Lance Armstrong! baldie 1 Awards
Merlin007 Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1127 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8582 Content Per Day: 1.64 Reputation: 7547 Achievement Points: 76566 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Posted January 16, 2013 if you send him to jail you have to send the rest of them bikers too, cause it is said most of them juice anyway. they just got armstrong out cause he was beating them at there own game. I agree. The whole lot of them were doping. Armstrong was just a better doper I guess that got caught, key is caught. He was stripped of his titles, can make him pay back his winnings, but jail time in my opinion does not fit the crime. Look at how many athletes have been caught doping in one sport or another, maybe getting lifetime bans, fines, but I don't recall jail time. Look at guys like McGwire who were definitely doping and still retained his status. But that's just my 2 cents. Hemps and Bogleg 2 Awards
Labob Posted January 17, 2013 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted January 17, 2013 Well if ya tos his butt in jail for doping . Please get the NBA ,NFL,NBL, players all lined up for orange overalls too. Awards
hxtr Posted January 17, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted January 17, 2013 lance is laughing all the way to the bank but can he walk the streets now with out fear He was laughing before.... but he knows now he is in deep shit. His money will def part and he will def lose all his friends. money is a great driver for evil but not the only thing.
JACKO:) Posted January 18, 2013 Member ID: 4474 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 25 Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1065 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 374 Achievement Points: 7622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 3, 2014 Birthday: 09/30/1975 Posted January 18, 2013 7 times tour not only earn doping.
Hemps Posted January 18, 2013 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted January 18, 2013 I hate cheaters in-game! But there is nothing worse than "real-life-cheaters" like Armstrong. If one of US would cheat on other people, companies or authorities we would get punished with fine or imprisionment. He stole milliions and i suggest he is not able to pay all the money back and finally he destroyed the reputation of all other racers and the whole bike sports. I see no reason why he should NOT go to jail? FU Lance Armstrong! he didnt steal millions, he was payed to advertise a product which he did. and they got there monies worth out of him. Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted January 18, 2013 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.10 Reputation: 4985 Achievement Points: 50728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11, 2024 Posted January 18, 2013 A large lesson that should be learned by all is that celebrity should not be worshipped. We've been confronted over here with the revelation that a highly popular DJ and TV presenter abused kids over six decades. He's dead so can't be tried and punished. He raised millions for charities but it seems his endeavours were a cover for his sexual predation. That wipes out all the joy we felt when we saw the good things on TV. BigPapaDean 1 Awards
Guybrush Posted January 18, 2013 Member ID: 4074 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 299 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 153 Achievement Points: 2072 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/02/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 07/27/1986 Posted January 18, 2013 Just saying...winning the tour de france as many times as he did is a testament to his dedication regardless of the ethical choices he made. Just because someone is doping doesn't enable them to achieve what he did. Questioning his athletic abilities would be naive. Sending him to jail for lying about doping just equates to needing to send the thousands of other athletes who continue to lie about dopingto jail as well. Personally I have never been a fan of spectator sports. They are among the highest paid individuals in our country, yet they contribute very little to society beyond entertainment value. Sure they have talent in their respective fields, but I see no reason to pay them more than anyone else who puts in the same effort. (I like the analogy someone made between football players and soldiers...pretty appropriate comparison).
TecHnOBoY Posted January 18, 2013 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Posted January 18, 2013 ]he didnt steal millions, he was payed to advertise a product which he did. and they got there monies worth out of him. I did not mean the sponsorings.. Look at this numbers, maybe you'll agree. I maintain: he stole millions... The racers get money for each stage ranking of the tour and for the final ranking. This is a list of TdF 2012 (in Euro) For each Stage: 1. 8.000 2. 4.000 3. 2.000 4. 1.200 5. 830 6. 780 7. 730 8. 670 9. 650 10. 600 11. 540 12. 470 13. 440 14. 340 15. 250 16. - 20. á: 200 Final standing by time: 1. 450.000 2. 200.000 3. 100.000 4. 70.000 5. 50.000 6. 23.000 7. 11.500 8. 7.600 9. 4.500 10. 3.800 11. 3.000 12. 2.700 13. 2.500 14. 2.100 15. 2.000 16. 1.500 17. 1.300 18. 1.200 19. 1.000 20. 950 21. 900 22. 850 23. 750 24. 700 25. 650 26. bis 30. je 600 31. bis 40. je 550 41. bis 50. je 500 51. bis 90. je 450 Each other classified: á 400 Final standings by points and appraisal 1. 25.000 2. 15.000 3. 10.000 4. 4.000 5. 3.500 6. 3.000 7. 2.500 8. 2.000 Final standtings for the teams: 1. 50.000 2. 30.000 3. 20.000 4. 12.000 5. 8.000 The most combative racer (jury decision) 1. 20.000 Carrier of a jersey or backnumber per stage: yellow jersey: 350 green jersey: 300 mountain jersey (white with red dtos): 300 young profi yersey (white): 300 most combative racer (red backnumber): 2.000 Awards
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