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The person speaking is supposedly an "expert" speaking about the UK!

I don't think he has ever set foot in London or Birmingham!

What a moron! :rant:

 



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Yea Fox can be full of shit big time. Best to not watch any new on TV. Mostly filled with propaganda and misinformation.



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Posted (edited)

DEEJAYKEG, I am not suprised. Thats Fox News.

 

 

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What do you expect? Fox also has some inferiority complex issues. Currently Dish network is going through the usual contract battles with their parent company over money. Next time it will be Fox vs Comcast or one of the others. This is America after all and we are seeing capitalism. They should be promoting this issue as a positive to show how the free market works. But their take on it in their commercials? Dish is 'censoring' them.



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WOW What Bullshit....... How can they get away with that



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People who watch fox news believe in it as if its scripture. I have seen it first hand, they don't question a word. In a survey it was found that Fox News audiences were the most misinformed of all in the US.



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watching news on tv no thnx ill watch some naked news i can turn off the sound and look at some boobies :whistle:

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LOL, take all of the media with a grain of salt. Forgot who Bret Baier was interviewing a few weeks ago, someone from Latin America, but he kept interrupting and leading the poor fellow, that I turned the channel. News media might cover the weather, but I still look out the window to see if they're full of shite.



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Those in power use fear to manipulate and control us. Fear makes us the instruments of Power. When we are afraid, we obey. When we are afraid, we will do anything to feel safer.



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Reminds me of 911 Damage. Boy we were afraid back then...... now we have Homeland Security, TSA,  FEMA Camps and a Radical Muslim in office who is married to man.



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Posted (edited)

I don't watch FOX ever, but I know that they have a huge reputation for reporting things that other news outlets won't report on because it's not politically correct. The guy in the video (Steven Emerson) is a person they interviewed is a self proclaimed terrorism "expert" that's written several books on the subject. Obviously he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and has since apologized for the comments according to BBC news.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-30773297

 

If this guy was intereviewed on BBC, NBC, CBS or MSNBC, he would just be an idiot. But since he was on FOX he must be part of that news organization? How does that make sense?

 

I find my news from various sources on the internet and choose to form my own conclusions on what is legitimate and what is complete bullshit.  As an example, as I sit here typing this the only thing on all of the network news is who won a Golden Globe award last night, as if nothing else happened in the world over the last 24 hours and this is something important. What the rest of the world sees on their news about the US is even worse. If you were to take what they show as the truth, every US citizen should be in fear for their lives when they are confronted by a police officer, and black people are rioting in every US city, looting stores and burning buildings to the ground. 

 

FOX news is just another media outlet, nothing more and nothing less. They are the most popular according to ratings and that makes them a target for scrutiny. In politics there are hundreds of polling services including polls taken by every news network. Most are taken with a grain of salt and none are accepted as the final word on what the outcome of any event will ultimately be, and yet when some professor in a small New Jersey university polls a handful of people and proclaims that FOX news viewers are the least informed, it becomes the absolute truth. What makes this professor such an expert? The poll and the survey questions were long ago discredited, but that matters little to people who have a hardon for anything that sheds a bad light on FOX.

 

Try to stay objective when viewing anything that is reported as "news". These outlets (all of them) try to create news, not simply report it. It's up to us to figure out what's bullshit and what is the truth.

 

PS: There are those who live in Birmingham who agree with what the guy said on FOX. These two gentlmen as an example.

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=306_1421078175

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@@little_old_man

FOX chose its "expert", no one else did, so FOX can't avoid criticism for airing this garbage!

 

The population of Brum is 1,085,000.  I'm sure you'd be able to find two or probably more people there

who believed that the New World Order ran the planet and aliens owned California too...  Seriously,

the opening admission that these two Herberts were working in conjunction with the "BNP" betrays

their agenda.  The British National Party is a fascist political party!

 

There has been some inventive reaction via Twitter from astounded readers...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11339077/The-truth-about-Birmingham-foxnewsfacts.html



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Law-breaking takes place all over the world, not just in the UK.  More to the point, the fact that a handful of idiots chose to break the law

doesn't indicate the country is chock-full of them...  It could be more accurate to say that these incidents took place in a specific borough of

London but that is less sensational.

 

At least you included the link reporting the perpetrators had been jailed.



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@@little_old_man

 

FOX chose its "expert", no one else did, so FOX can't avoid criticism for airing this garbage!

 

The population of Brum is 1,085,000.  I'm sure you'd be able to find two or probably more people there

who believed that the New World Order ran the planet and aliens owned California too...  Seriously,

the opening admission that these two Herberts were working in conjunction with the "BNP" betrays

their agenda.  The British National Party is a fascist political party!

 

There has been some inventive reaction via Twitter from astounded readers...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11339077/The-truth-about-Birmingham-foxnewsfacts.html

 

 

@@little_old_man

 

FOX chose its "expert", no one else did, so FOX can't avoid criticism for airing this garbage!

 

The population of Brum is 1,085,000.  I'm sure you'd be able to find two or probably more people there

who believed that the New World Order ran the planet and aliens owned California too...  Seriously,

the opening admission that these two Herberts were working in conjunction with the "BNP" betrays

their agenda.  The British National Party is a fascist political party!

 

There has been some inventive reaction via Twitter from astounded readers...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11339077/The-truth-about-Birmingham-foxnewsfacts.html

 

Steven Emerson is also a frequent contributor on C-SPAN, MSNBC and NBC. Had his comments aired on any of those media outlets would we be discussing this now? I seriously doubt it.



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Steven Emerson is also a frequent contributor on C-SPAN, MSNBC and NBC. Had his comments aired on any of those media outlets would we be discussing this now? I seriously doubt it.

 

I wonder if he will be in the future.

 

Bollocks is bollocks no matter who airs it.



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Fox tells its viewers what they want to hear. No they are not unique in this in cable news. But dont kid yourselves they have a clear agenda.

 

There is a difference between inviting people that are not politically correct... there are well known people on the left that fit this category as well... and people that are simply useful idiots. Check out interviews of people that do not fit their agenda. They are beaten down. What exactly is the point of unabashedly insulting guests on the air? Interviews with people that do fit their agenda are treated with great deference and spun answers to questions are ignored.

 

I still remember the Sarah Palin question about naming a newspaper.... just one... that she reads. She couldnt. Even to just pick one out of the air like the Washington Post or something. Normally, so what? But she wanted to be VP. What did Fox do? They blamed the interviewer for asking the question. They still are upset at the presidential debate where Romney was wrong about something and he was called on it by the moderator. They didnt say she was wrong. They say she shouldnt have even said he was wrong.

 

Almost sounds like censorship to me.



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Law-breaking takes place all over the world, not just in the UK.  More to the point, the fact that a handful of idiots chose to break the law

doesn't indicate the country is chock-full of them...  It could be more accurate to say that these incidents took place in a specific borough of

London but that is less sensational.

 

At least you included the link reporting the perpetrators had been jailed.

 

 

Which is exactly how we feel in the US when media outlets portray what they call "out of control police shooting unarmed people in the streets" and race riots in every city coast to coast.  I know it's only a handful of people DJ. That was the point I was attempting to make. ALL media outlets feel that they need to sensationalize stories in order to get the highest ratings.  The problem I have is that people feel FOX is the only news organization making mistakes. Everyone else gets a free pass.



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People who watch fox news believe in it as if its scripture. I have seen it first hand, they don't question a word. In a survey it was found that Fox News audiences were the most misinformed of all in the US.

If you're going to claim it then show your proof otherwise it's no better than what you are saying about them! Just saying!!!



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Posted (edited)

Hi mate although I do agree with your point about news agencys, I will point out that during all the chaos of what was happening over in the US the BBC News made several points about how it was sad but misfortunate about the  accident and was not an indication of how the US Police work ... And also stated that the press in the US were making matters worse by focusing solely on the victims family and not the poor policeman and how he must feel....

 

So sometimes the press over here do get it right not always but sometimes.

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There are mistakes. And there is spin.

 

Fox has quite a few guests that fit the category of the one in question in this post. He was wrong and he knows he was wrong. The question is whether or not Fox consistently calls people on it when they are. Including their own commentators.

 

News only gets a free pass from their supporters. Fox viewers give it a free pass when they are wrong or guests outright lie. Dedicated CNN viewers do the same. However two wrongs dont make a right. On the other hand when CNN does something truly stupid, and they do, it doesnt go unnoticed by the competition. For Fox there are no other media outlets on the right to tell them they were stupid. Its what goes with being the only game in town. If Fox had true right-leaning cable news competition things would be quite different. But they dont.



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I don't know if what he is saying is true or not, but I NEVER get my news from TV. News readers are like politicians, if their lips are moving they are lying.



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If you're going to claim it then show your proof otherwise it's no better than what you are saying about them! Just saying!!!

 

Fair enough @@BigPapaDean - I used to watch them then I saw them time after time simply reporting untrue things as facts. They have a narrative and they twist facts to fit that narrative. After that I starting reading/watching the news about the same incident/events from multiple sources especially the ones outside the US to establish an inkling of truth. Some times you need to step out of the house to see what's going on inside. 

 

#1 http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/

 

#2 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-camp/12-wild-misconceptions-he_b_798938.html

 

#3 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html

 

#4 http://www.alternet.org/media/science-fox-news-why-its-viewers-are-most-misinformed



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Posted (edited)

Fair enough @@BigPapaDean - I used to watch them then I saw them time after time simply reporting untrue things as facts. They have a narrative and they twist facts to fit that narrative. After that I starting reading/watching the news about the same incident/events from multiple sources especially the ones outside the US to establish an inkling of truth. Some times you need to step out of the house to see what's going on inside. 

 

#1 http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/

 

#2 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-camp/12-wild-misconceptions-he_b_798938.html

 

#3 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html

 

#4 http://www.alternet.org/media/science-fox-news-why-its-viewers-are-most-misinformed

 

You forgot one, Politifact. Read the entire article if you want a breakdown.

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/

 

"On the June 19, 2011, edition of Fox News Sunday, comedian Jon Stewart -- host of The Daily Show on Comedy Central -- sat down for an interview with Chris Wallace. Many readers asked us to review one of his claims.

 

"Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers?" Stewart asked Wallace. "The most consistently misinformed? Fox, Fox viewers, consistently, every poll."

 

Wallace didn’t challenge Stewart’s assertion that Fox -- widely perceived as a conservative-leaning network -- produced more misinformed viewers. But we thought it was an assessment worth checking."

 

"The way Stewart phrased the comment, it’s not enough to show a sliver of evidence that Fox News’ audience is ill-informed. The evidence needs to support the view that the data shows they are "consistently" misinformed -- a term he used not once but three times. It’s simply not true that "every poll" shows that result. So we rate his claim False."

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That is incorrect.  I could say %70 of the American people think Saudi Arabia is an enemy of the US. But I cannot prove it. Doesnt mean I must be wrong because in the absence of being challenged to do so I could very well be right. In this case Stewart should have been. You ask to ask yourself why he wasnt.

 

This is also the kind of thing that happens when a commentator on Fox says something as fact but nobody else inside the conservative world challenges it. Including other people on Fox. If there is no conservative equal to challenge Fox on what it says then it can present whatever it wants as truth. If CNN or Jon Stewart challenges it? They are called lying liberal hacks and their comments are worthless. True or not.


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