Thoughts on the Bruce Jenner switch to a female

CobraBites · June 13, 2015

All these varying opinions, he did it for the money, and now he has his own titties to play with while he's assaulting the Bishop. He isn't doing any harm to his family that they aren't already doing to themselves. (they in for the money too yall) They are all adults with their own gigs. The publicity makes them big money and keeps them in the lavish lifestyle they are accustomed to. It's all entertainment, a family acting a fool and getting seriously paid to do it. I'm not talking about what they make from the TV show, that is paltry to what they make getting paid just to show up at "social events" and jobs they have a salary for just for having the name on a payroll.

Paris Hilton has done well for herself using this business model for decades.

As far as tossing "God's Man-made rulebook" into the mix...if God hates gay people and dictates through the Bible you must hate them then why does he make them? To fuel your hatred and desire to cast judgment in the race to be the first to cast a stone?... tsk tsk tsk mama say that is da debil

The media creates a never ending sewage flow about it people tweet tag like + up1 reddit pintrest and FB that crap 24/7 world-wide. Who's fault is it?? If WE, the users, would just shut up about it it would go away, stop viewing, stop sharing stop goddamn liking it and it's popularity will vanish, guaranteed.

its not hate that God has for gay people its the fact that it just immoral and against what God created....God created man ....God then created woman for man as a helper.....God DID NOT!! create man for man woman for woman ...plain and simple....God is equally against fornification ...adultery as well...everyone seems to forget that and act like God only wants to punish just the gays.....not true by any means...God doesnt like anyone who doesnt keep his commandments enough said....God also doesnt like ppl desicrating the temple of God which is our bodies....yes this includes tattos ....sex change operations ..yes smoking ...drugs ...etc....

personally this whole thing with brenner...is getn rather old ....time to move on with life he doesnt affect the things in my life if he wants to live that way and do those things to his body thats on him and between him and God ...he will have to answer to God eventually.....

Edited June 13, 2015 by CobraBites

Icequeen · June 13, 2015

This topic really need not get out of hand. I was taught that Jesus loves all so in turn should I not love all? And I do. End of story.

JAYsus_NL · June 13, 2015

Jay, I have 4 family members that are gay and for the most part, all they wish to do is live their lives , as normal people like everyone else. They want nothing more than to be excepted, without ths media circus.

True, same here, but... Gays appearing in movies or in series isn`t this media circus you are talking about. That was what my reaction was about....... Gay people appearing in movies and series and stuff is called a reflection of real life, not the whole Jenner circus or what so ever...

Edited June 13, 2015 by Jay80_NL

PimpedOutPete · June 13, 2015

This topic really need not get out of hand. I was taught that Jesus loves all so in turn should I not love all? And I do. End of story.

Can I get an Amen to this statement!

PS... Hxtr just sent me a pic from his new job.... Woof!

PimpedOutPete · June 13, 2015

its not hate that God has for gay people its the fact that it just immoral and against what God created....God created man ....God then created woman for man as a helper.....God DID NOT!! create man for man woman for woman ...plain and simple....God is equally against fornification ...adultery as well...everyone seems to forget that and act like God only wants to punish just the gays.....not true by any means...God doesnt like anyone who doesnt keep his commandments enough said....God also doesnt like ppl desicrating the temple of God which is our bodies....yes this includes tattos ....sex change operations ..yes smoking ...drugs ...etc....

personally this whole thing with brenner...is getn rather old ....time to move on with life he doesnt affect the things in my life if he wants to live that way and do those things to his body thats on him and between him and God ...he will have to answer to God eventually.....

We all will, not just Jenner.

Barron · June 13, 2015

its not hate that God has for gay people its the fact that it just immoral and against what God created....God created man ....God then created woman for man as a helper.....God DID NOT!! create man for man woman for woman ...plain and simple....God is equally against fornification ...adultery as well...everyone seems to forget that and act like God only wants to punish just the gays.....not true by any means...God doesnt like anyone who doesnt keep his commandments enough said....God also doesnt like ppl desicrating the temple of God which is our bodies....yes this includes tattos ....sex change operations ..yes smoking ...drugs ...etc....

personally this whole thing with brenner...is getn rather old ....time to move on with life he doesnt affect the things in my life if he wants to live that way and do those things to his body thats on him and between him and God ...he will have to answer to God eventually.....

Why is religion in this topic?

Edited June 13, 2015 by Barron3000

JAYsus_NL · June 13, 2015

Why is religion is this topic?

Same way the gay stuff is... ;-p

KingStinger! · June 13, 2015

I wanted to avoid this topic...But... Probably everyone in XI lives in a country that is part of the free world, a world where we can be who we wanna be, be what we wanna be and for that matter almost say what ever we wanna say.. Bruce Jenner to me crossed a fine line. Yet he has the freedom to be who he wants to be, I also have to freedom to say what i wanna say about it.. My belief is my choice, a freedom My grandfather fought for the in WWII in the US Army.. Also a freedom that soldiers fight for no matter the country, soldiers of the free world continue to fight for to this day.. THOSE MY FRIENDS ARE THE FUCKING HEROES , NOT GETTING YOUR FUCKING DICK CHOPPED OFF.. That is the fine line that was crossed.. I was fine with him doing has he chooses until he was label a hero, that pissed me off.

Be gay, be transgender, be lesbian, be muslim, be an athiest i dont care.. But until you strap on a 100lbs of gear dredging though a swamp to fight for my freedom or pull someone from a car that just drove into a lake dont call yourself or that person a fucking hero because of a choice that altered how GOD created you.. Is he a hero because he stood up to God? God create man perfect, and him chopping his dick off is like slapping GOD in the face.. Again, my personal belief and my freedom to believe that.

Also, i have stated I dont care what others choose to do with there life but when im out at the grocery store shopping and some chick that i might think is good looking starts getting flirty with me only to find out later that she is/was actually a he, well that just bullshit, thats disgusting and deceitful to other.. Im not sure how i would react if that case ever came about.. but wow, think about that.. Its just not right.

I believe in Bruce Jenner's right to make a free choice, but i do not believe in the choice he made.

Enough said, that is my contribution to this topic.

Edited June 13, 2015 by KingStinger!

Leadfinger · June 13, 2015

I hear you, but... The original topic was indeed about Bruce Jenner getting his gender changed and the media attention comming with that. I only reacted to a different line in that original post. Please read back......

I quote from the first post;

                                    ''Just wondering what an idiot thinks about the transformation of Bruce Jenner.

And a bit further

                                    I'm not anti gay or lesbian or whatever I just think what you do in private should stay private''.

I just asked te following on that line;

                                               ''What has this to do with gay???? This has nothing to do with gay what so ever.... It`s called transgender....

                                               She now is a transgender who happends to be gay....''

The discussion took a turn to the ''gay side'' afterwards. And yes, i personally think with that, the discussion went the wrong way!

I, btw, sincerely do respect someone else his/her opinion, but i`m not going to bail to keep the peace. If someone has to shove their opinion trough my throat, i`m going to vent mine.. ;-p

@Jay80_NL Why do you act as though I am anti gay when i stated that "I am not anti gay or lesbian or whatever" ("whatever" would include transgender) I am fully behind gay and lesbians having all the legal rights that a hetero couple have. Insurance companies and pension funds ect. should recognize these relationships and transfer the assets to their partner.upon death or serious illness.

I included this line " I'm not anti gay or lesbian or whatever" Because I do recognize that >XI< has gay and lesbian members and I wanted to reassure them that I am not anti gay and lesbian or transgender or whatever and this post wasn't about being gay or lesbian it was about Bruce Jenner and the media hype surrounding his "transformation"

you said "She now is a transgender who happends to be gay....''

When ever a man becomes a woman and still likes men that man is gay because genetically he is still a man.

I am guilty of mentioning Gay and lesbians in my original post but not for the purpose of "bashing them" I made the reference for the sole purpose of not being misunderstood by our fellow members who are gay or lesbian.

The conversation veered away from the original topic and began to focus on Gay's with your post

"What has this to do with gay???? This has nothing to do with gay what so ever.... It`s called transgender....

She now is a transgender who happends to be gay....

I think you deserve the credit for the conversation going off topic . . had you not posted these comments the conversation would have stayed on topic.

you said "Let me tell you something; My relationship is just as mainstream as yours, ok, i fuck dudes, so what?

If you could take a moment and read back I said " I just think what you do in private should stay private'' Why did you feel the need to tell everyone reading this topic that you "fuck Dudes" isn't that something that should be considered private?

Jay your posts were an attempt to put focus on being gay and your un-needed attacks on me for something I didnt say were an attempt to put yourself in the spotlight .. . . by informing everyone that you "fuck dudes" gave your story a more sensational "feel" about it . . .perhaps such comments should be published in the same magazines that printed the Bruce Jenner story but as you can see from reading these posts most >XI< members don't give a shit about stories like this.

hxtr · June 13, 2015

@Jay80_NL Why do you act as though I am anti gay when i stated that "I am not anti gay or lesbian or whatever" ("whatever" would include transgender) I am fully behind gay and lesbians having all the legal rights that a hetero couple have. Insurance companies and pension funds ect. should recognize these relationships and transfer the assets to their partner.upon death or serious illness.

I included this line " I'm not anti gay or lesbian or whatever" Because I do recognize that >XI< has gay and lesbian members and I wanted to reassure them that I am not anti gay and lesbian or transgender or whatever and this post wasn't about being gay or lesbian it was about Bruce Jenner and the media hype surrounding his "transformation"

you said "She now is a transgender who happends to be gay....''

When ever a man becomes a woman and still likes men that man is gay because genetically he is still a man.

I am guilty of mentioning Gay and lesbians in my original post but not for the purpose of "bashing them" I made the reference for the sole purpose of not being misunderstood by our fellow members who are gay or lesbian.

The conversation veered away from the original topic and began to focus on Gay's with your post

"What has this to do with gay???? This has nothing to do with gay what so ever.... It`s called transgender....

She now is a transgender who happends to be gay....

I think you deserve the credit for the conversation going off topic . . had you not posted these comments the conversation would have stayed on topic.

you said "Let me tell you something; My relationship is just as mainstream as yours, ok, i fuck dudes, so what?

If you could take a moment and read back I said " I just think what you do in private should stay private'' Why did you feel the need to tell everyone reading this topic that you "fuck Dudes" isn't that something that should be considered private?

Jay your posts were an attempt to put focus on being gay and your un-needed attacks on me for something I didnt say were an attempt to put yourself in the spotlight .. . . by informing everyone that you "fuck dudes" gave your story a more sensational "feel" about it . . .perhaps such comments should be published in the same magazines that printed the Bruce Jenner story but as you can see from reading these posts most >XI< members don't give a shit about stories like this.

I'm getting the funny feeling I'm the only one not having a mainstream relationship.

Help me out. Click this link below and watch some gay midget porn with me. Lets make it mainstream damit!

http:\\www.supermidgetporn.com

PimpedOutPete · June 13, 2015

I am puzzled by this. Why does courage have to be defined by whether someone needs to die defending their country?

Courage comes in many forms. A child struck by AIDS who chooses to fight to make the disease mainstream before he dies from it. An African American women who chooses to stand for her rights when she chooses to not give up her seat on a bus. The men on Juno beach who died defending this great nation.

i not comparing Bruce Jenners actions to those individuals for he would most likely agree that they are the true heroes.

Johnny3Time · June 13, 2015

its not hate that God has for gay people its the fact that it just immoral and against what God created....God created man ....God then created woman for man as a helper.....God DID NOT!! create man for man woman for woman ...plain and simple....God is equally against fornification ...adultery as well...everyone seems to forget that and act like God only wants to punish just the gays.....not true by any means...God doesnt like anyone who doesnt keep his commandments enough said....God also doesnt like ppl desicrating the temple of God which is our bodies....yes this includes tattos ....sex change operations ..yes smoking ...drugs ...etc....

personally this whole thing with brenner...is getn rather old ....time to move on with life he doesnt affect the things in my life if he wants to live that way and do those things to his body thats on him and between him and God ...he will have to answer to God ev

My point wasn't about God punishing the Gays it was about people using God to pass judgement on another's lifestyle, it's selectively using morals to push a belief while at the same time ignoring a Cardinal rule that says you shouldn't do that... there is a word for it but it escapes me

JAYsus_NL · June 13, 2015

@Jay80_NL Why do you act as though I am anti gay when i stated that "I am not anti gay or lesbian or whatever" ("whatever" would include transgender) I am fully behind gay and lesbians having all the legal rights that a hetero couple have. Insurance companies and pension funds ect. should recognize these relationships and transfer the assets to their partner.upon death or serious illness.

I included this line " I'm not anti gay or lesbian or whatever" Because I do recognize that >XI< has gay and lesbian members and I wanted to reassure them that I am not anti gay and lesbian or transgender or whatever and this post wasn't about being gay or lesbian it was about Bruce Jenner and the media hype surrounding his "transformation"

you said "She now is a transgender who happends to be gay....''

When ever a man becomes a woman and still likes men that man is gay because genetically he is still a man.

I am guilty of mentioning Gay and lesbians in my original post but not for the purpose of "bashing them" I made the reference for the sole purpose of not being misunderstood by our fellow members who are gay or lesbian.

The conversation veered away from the original topic and began to focus on Gay's with your post

"What has this to do with gay???? This has nothing to do with gay what so ever.... It`s called transgender....

She now is a transgender who happends to be gay....

Exactly. I don`t like to be compaired with transgenders. I`m gay, not that! I really don`t understand why you would bring up gay in your post. You say you did that to not be misunderstood..... You saying that made you get misunderstood in the first place...

I think you deserve the credit for the conversation going off topic . . had you not posted these comments the conversation would have stayed on topic.

you said "Let me tell you something; My relationship is just as mainstream as yours, ok, i fuck dudes, so what?

If you could take a moment and read back I said " I just think what you do in private should stay private'' Why did you feel the need to tell everyone reading this topic that you "fuck Dudes" isn't that something that should be considered private? Okay, i could have put that differently, but on the otherhand. If you look at my medals, there`s a particular one were you can see my sexual preference. Me being male and having a same gender better half kinda makes it obvious, doen`t it? Nothing privet about that....

Jay your posts were an attempt to put focus on being gay and your un-needed attacks on me for something I didnt say were an attempt to put yourself in the spotlight .. . . by informing everyone that you "fuck dudes" gave your story a more sensational "feel" about it . . .perhaps such comments should be published in the same magazines that printed the Bruce Jenner story but as you can see from reading these posts most >XI< members don't give a shit about stories like this. Most defenately not! My initial post was about you compairing transgenders to gay people. I tried to tell you with that you should not see it like the same....

Shadix-CF · June 13, 2015

He got a sex change.

Big deal, lots of men and women have done the same before him.

Spartacus · June 13, 2015

In that respect, the media isn't a reflection of society, rather society is a reflection of the media which happens all too frequently today.

Society is to Pottery Clay as the Media is to the Artist...

They promote Garbage and Society Acts it out...

Puppet Masters.

Edited June 13, 2015 by Spartacus

Gatorgirl · June 13, 2015

I think his whole family is a bunch of attention seeking money grubbing idiots and we should stop paying attention to them and let them fade into obscurity.

Well said..........

Astronomer · June 13, 2015

The only part of this discussion that has me unsettled is the use of religion as a justification for holding a discriminatory position.

Joe Canadian · June 13, 2015

Juice Gender-Blender?

I think the Guy Has Identity problems (maybe psych. problems) and is being exploited by the media for ratings....

http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s09e01-mr-garrisons-fancy-new-vagina

Besides, now he can become a celebrity like his step daughters sleeping with dudes and putting sex tapes online!

I Mean, They Got Famous For That! Why Not Him.... Or Her?

I think the proper word to describe the Kardashians is not "famous" but "trash celebrity". Their sex videos and artificially boosted big butts are not among top 10 achievements of humankind.

Edited June 13, 2015 by Joe Canadian

KingStinger! · June 13, 2015

I am puzzled by this. Why does courage have to be defined by whether someone needs to die defending their country?

Courage comes in many forms. A child struck by AIDS who chooses to fight to make the disease mainstream before he dies from it. An African American women who chooses to stand for her rights when she chooses to not give up her seat on a bus. The men on Juno beach who died defending this great nation.

i not comparing Bruce Jenners actions to those individuals for he would most likely agree that they are the true heroes.

courage yes hero no. I've never bungee jumped and I never will but if I happen to do it that's courage, I'm not a hero

PimpedOutPete · June 14, 2015

courage yes hero no. I've never bungee jumped and I never will but if I happen to do it that's courage, I'm not a hero

I totally agree.

Logan · June 14, 2015

Well, that was a long read. Anybody want a beer?

little_old_man · June 14, 2015

Well, that was a long read. Anybody want a beer?

Just so it's not Canadian, yes.

Logan · June 14, 2015

Old Milwaukee for you

Leadfinger · June 14, 2015

Hell yes an ice cold beer does sound good about now thanks @@Logan.

hxtr · June 14, 2015

Hell yes an ice cold beer does sound good about now thanks @@Logan.

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