EDD THE DUCK Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 375 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 93 Topic Count: 386 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4069 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 7848 Achievement Points: 37193 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/13/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 15 hours ago Birthday: 06/01/1970 Device: iPhone Posted September 10, 2014 We are considering removing the 24 man true hardcore server. This server is having a detrimental effect on our other two servers. we have found players we have recruited from the eu custom and us softcore servers are playing on the hardcore server but this severely affects the other 2 servers. player numbers are ok eu time. but as soon as the XI and FOXI members leave (Breakfast Club) the server empties and no recruiting. the population usa time is not very good .it only runs a few times a week and again there is no recruiting. At the moment we are looking at reducing the us softcore server player count to 48 . which we don't want to do but with the server population as it is we might have to. we are also going to try and change the EU by removing the minimap. Basically We need your support two keep our two primary servers running and populated. This is where we do all our recruiting from . dadda2, JAYsus_NL, Damit1 and 1 other 4 Awards
OddJob001 Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Rejoice!Aside, from the whole reducing 64 slots of course. That would be a terrible thing. Edited September 10, 2014 by OddJob001 Fir3Marshal and mouselad 2
JAYsus_NL Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 20692 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 217 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1943 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 2009 Achievement Points: 16789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/16/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 8 Birthday: 01/13/1980 Device: Windows Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Good thing.... If needed.... Edited September 11, 2014 by Jay80_NL Awards
mouselad Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Posted September 10, 2014 that's my favorite server. Sonovabich and DEEJAYKEG 2
Fir3Marshal Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 20789 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 936 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 325 Achievement Points: 7004 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2014 Birthday: 04/18/1981 Posted September 10, 2014 I support getting rid of the US Hardcore server, but I want the slots to stay at 64 on the US Softcore server. Darkstar, OddJob001, mouselad and 2 others 5
ArticBlue87 Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 21259 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 71 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 20 Achievement Points: 457 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/08/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 19, 2015 Birthday: 03/13/1987 Posted September 10, 2014 I support getting rid of the US Hardcore server, but I want the slots to stay at 64 on the US Softcore server. Feel the same, Really enjoy the softcore server the most. And the one I only focus my server rank on. But in the end as long softcore is still there im happy. OddJob001 and Freefry Freeburg 2
19animalmother83 Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 21240 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Achievement Points: 21 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Is the removal of the minimap on eu server perminant? im hoping the servers will pick back up once the new patch comes out, EDD THE DUCK 1
7Toes Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted September 10, 2014 hmmm seems like the none us guys want to kill the us hardcore server fuck that get rid of the uk server instead Mule and JohnnyDos 2 Awards
EDD THE DUCK Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 375 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 93 Topic Count: 386 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4069 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 7848 Achievement Points: 37193 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/13/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 15 hours ago Birthday: 06/01/1970 Device: iPhone Author Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) hmmm seems like the none us guys want to kill the us hardcore server fuck that get rid of the uk server instead You have only played 5.3 hours on the us hardcore server .maybe if you actually played any real time on it !!! You might find it mostly populated by the EU guys .http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/192.210.198.203:25200/top_players/?query=7toes&Search=Search Edited September 10, 2014 by EDD THE DUCK OddJob001, dadda2, Damit1 and 1 other 4 Awards
NITRO Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 1095 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3639 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 2460 Achievement Points: 24702 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 03/23/1979 Device: iPhone Posted September 10, 2014 LOL? Getting rid of a server because it's taking numbers from the other two?...what?? That would be ass backwards to cull a popular server, if people are leaving the other two for the us hardcore server then it's obviously the one they prefer to play on. Taking it away to force them back to the other two is fucked up. Cull the least popular one rofl. JohnnyDos, DEEJAYKEG, Evil-Monkey and 1 other 4 Awards
mouselad Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Posted September 10, 2014 You have only played 5.3 hours on the us hardcore server .maybe if you actually played any real time on it !!! You might find it mostly populated by the EU guys . http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/192.210.198.203:25200/top_players/?query=7toes&Search=Search I've played 41.88 hours on it. but yea i do find it populated by the EU guys. I just enjoy the low ping, and true hardcore no minimap. The only thing I don't like about hardcore actually is snipers. I like the no regenerative health or armor. actually makes being a medic and repairman way more useful... I am iffy about the damage model though. I think true hardcore is going to change soon. I rely on enemy callouts like "medic" or "ammo here" to locate enemies on true hardcore. I heard soon they are going to make it where you cant hear enemy callouts. only friendlies. i think that kinda sucks and is going to take a bit of the immersion and realism out of the game. Sonovabich 1
EDD THE DUCK Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 375 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 93 Topic Count: 386 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4069 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 7848 Achievement Points: 37193 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/13/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 15 hours ago Birthday: 06/01/1970 Device: iPhone Author Posted September 10, 2014 LOL? Getting rid of a server because it's taking numbers from the other two?...what?? That would be ass backwards to cull a popular server, if people are leaving the other two for the us hardcore server then it's obviously the one they prefer to play on. Taking it away to force them back to the other two is fucked up. Cull the least popular one rofl. It doesn't get populated like the other 2 OddJob001 1 Awards
NITRO Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 1095 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3639 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 2460 Achievement Points: 24702 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 03/23/1979 Device: iPhone Posted September 10, 2014 Oh ok *walks very slowly away hoping no one notices...* LOL On another note you can kick my ass when I finally come say hi Fir3Marshal 1 Awards
Fir3Marshal Posted September 10, 2014 Member ID: 20789 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 936 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 325 Achievement Points: 7004 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2014 Birthday: 04/18/1981 Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) From what I see what happens now is the folks that used to only get on and populate the US Softcore servers started playing on the US hardcore server, but the difference is once they leave for the day that server fails to stay populated.So now you have two empty servers and the EU players are sleeping. if we get a few guys / admins every day on the US Softcore server I know we will have no issue getting it populated. I used to always help by logging on the US Softcore server before I left for work, it would not kick for idle until we had over a certain number. I would be more than willing to do this again if it meant that the US Softcore server could stick to 64 players and help out the community. What might be a good compromise for shutting down the US Hardcore server is take some of the features / rules that folks like from the US Hardcore server and implement them on the EU Hardcore server. Just a thought. Fir3Marshal Edited September 10, 2014 by Fir3Marshal OddJob001, Freefry Freeburg, EDD THE DUCK and 1 other 4
Sonovabich Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) BULLSHIT the True Hardcore server is doing ok, if the other servers are failing don't blame this server, you told me long ago Edd that the US 64 man server was getting less traffic BEFORE the Hardcore server came into existance and it was you who asked me and Johnnydos to post and ask for more slots in this server only a few weeks ago, what's changed since, we have got a good regular group of players in here and now you want to close us down because of the failings of other servers, you have Admins sitting in the Euro server two hours yesterday to try and get it populated it just looked very sad, i say again it's BULLSHIT. Edited September 11, 2014 by Sonovabich JohnnyDos and DEEJAYKEG 2
BoomSlang Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 94 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 565 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 375 Achievement Points: 3842 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 12/03/1955 Device: Windows Posted September 11, 2014 THEN GET RID OF THEM. IF THIS ONE GOES SO DOES MY $$$ Pud Muscle, JohnnyDos and Sonovabich 3 Awards
IJHicks Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 20676 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 176 Achievement Points: 1296 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 1, 2018 Birthday: 03/29/1981 Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) What might be a good compromise for shutting down the US Hardcore server is take some of the features / rules that folks like from the US Hardcore server and implement them on the EU Hardcore server. Just a thought. Fir3Marshal Thats pretty much what has been done with the removal of the minimap, think that was the only difference except hit markers which is currently still on in the EU server.... when they work (Welcome to battlefield....) I know there will be a few complaints about the minimap going, but from the games I played, a lot of people didn't even notice it was gone until someone got the cheese and WHINE out :-) On a side note losiong the smaller proper HC server and having a larger 48/50 proper HC server (with spectator slots for my perving... I mean hack watching needs) in my mind is better, hell maybe we can increase the slots if it all works out. Edited September 11, 2014 by IJHicks Fir3Marshal and Damit1 2 Awards
OddJob001 Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted September 11, 2014 BULLSHIT the True Hardcore server is doing ok, if the other servers are failing don't blame this server, you told me long ago Edd that the US 64 man server was getting less traffic. LOL? Getting rid of a server because it's taking numbers from the other two?...what?? That would be ass backwards to cull a popular server, if people are leaving the other two for the us hardcore server then it's obviously the one they prefer to play on. Taking it away to force them back to the other two is fucked up. Cull the least popular one rofl. Since we have so many bitchers, complainers and whiners... Lets set some things straight. The US Server gets the most traffic. The EU Server gets the 2nd most traffic. The US Hardcore gets the third. Now that thats out of the way, why the fuck would we want to get rid of the higher populated servers? Guess what? BOTH servers had even HIGHER populations before the US Hardcore server was started. So whatever your basis is for thinking this is BULLSHIT, is, well, BULLSHIT in itself. you have Admins sitting in the Euro server two hours yesterday to try and get it populated it just looked very sad, i say again it's BULLSHIT. Making fun of Admins for trying to help populate the servers that you love to play on? Wow. What a commendable thing for a member to do.. I dont sit and try to populate the server for my own good. I do it for members and for the future well being of the clan. I do it to try and get good people in the server that we can then eventually invite into our family. Perhaps if others had this same attitude we wouldnt be having this discussion. THEN GET RID OF THEM. IF THIS ONE GOES SO DOES MY $$$ With a shitty-ass douchebag attitude like that I hope when we remove it, that not only your money goes, but that you go too. Its the likes of you we dont need plaguing us. Here you are, happily enjoying the service your Admins and Leader spend great deals of time and money on. All while not providing any real value to the clan, and then acting like children when something doesn't go your way. Instead of criticizing or pissing and moaning, why don't you find a way to help or contribute. Insane.. Who knew there were so many whiners, bitchers and moaners that surround us. mouselad, Freefry Freeburg, Damit1 and 1 other 4
Evil-Monkey Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 221 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1865 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 751 Achievement Points: 12313 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 06/10/1967 Device: iPhone Posted September 11, 2014 WoW Awards
Sonovabich Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Since we have so many bitchers, complainers and whiners... Lets set some things straight. The US Server gets the most traffic. The EU Server gets the 2nd most traffic. The US Hardcore gets the third. Now that thats out of the way, why the fuck would we want to get rid of the higher populated servers? Guess what? BOTH servers had even HIGHER populations before the US Hardcore server was started. So whatever your basis is for thinking this is BULLSHIT, is, well, BULLSHIT in itself. Making fun of Admins for trying to help populate the servers that you love to play on? Wow. What a commendable thing for a member to do.. I dont sit and try to populate the server for my own good. I do it for members and for the future well being of the clan. I do it to try and get good people in the server that we can then eventually invite into our family. Perhaps if others had this same attitude we wouldnt be having this discussion. With a shitty-ass douchebag attitude like that I hope when we remove it, that not only your money goes, but that you go too. Its the likes of you we dont need plaguing us. Here you are, happily enjoying the service your Admins and Leader spend great deals of time and money on. All while not providing any real value to the clan, and then acting like children when something doesn't go your way. Instead of criticizing or pissing and moaning, why don't you find a way to help or contribute. Insane.. Who knew there were so many whiners, bitchers and moaners that surround us. All this from a man who spat his dummy out yesterday and said he was going to say bye bye because we are getting hover tanks, i guess you know all about whining....tosser...oh yeah do you think we didnt know you were in TS with us all day us pretending you were'nt there and listening to everything we said, you can now go back and report it all to whoever, hey you might get a pat on the head like a good little doggy and we can make a new spy medal for you......TOSSER. Edited September 11, 2014 by Sonovabich CobraBites and JohnnyDos 2
JohnnyDos Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Posted September 11, 2014 Yeah,I remember reading that from OddJob also SOB.We like our 24 man serever,just like you like your Soft Core and Euro likes their mini map and Boomslang as long as he has been in this clan has always supported the clan. Sonovabich 1
OddJob001 Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) All this from a man who spat his dummy out yesterday and said he was going to say bye bye because we are getting hover tanks, i guess you know all about whining....tosser HAHAHAHAHAHA. Ah man, thanks for the laugh. Is that all you could come up with? Really? Must be because I called you out on your shit and you know I am right. LOLOL. Your reply makes no sense what-so-ever.... Me saying I dont like a certain game era vs. You calling your Admins BULLSHIT and making fun of them for trying to help. The comparison is night and day. Next time try to come up with an educated response that doesnt make you sound like a pathetic fool. Or rather how abut you respect your admins and what they do for you instead of always being against them.. Yeah,I remember reading that from OddJob also SOB.We like our 24 man serever,just like you like your Soft Core and Euro likes their mini map and Boomslang as long as he has been in this clan has always supported the clan. Threatening to stop donating because you dont get your way is NOT supporting the clan. Edited September 11, 2014 by OddJob001
Sonovabich Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted September 11, 2014 HAHAHAHAHAHA. Ah man, thanks for the laugh. Is that all you could come up with? Really? Must be because I called you out on your shit and you know I am right. LOLOL. Your reply makes no sense what-so-ever.... Me saying I dont like a certain game era vs. You calling your Admins BULLSHIT and making fun of them for trying to help. The comparison is night and day. Next time try to come up with an educated response that doesnt make you sound like a pathetic fool. Or rather how abut you respect your admins and what they do for you instead of always being against them.. Threatening to stop donating because you dont get your way is NOT supporting the clan. You better check with some of your fellow Admins tosser because we were told by a Head Admin months ago that your great 64 man server was having problems getting people to play there anymore, looks like you are not all on the same page don't it, we were also told that they could not remove the mini map from the Euro server because people would not play there, look now they are offering to put a mini map in because the numbers are dwindling, us regulars in the True Hardcore server were happy playing there until somebody decided they wanted more players in another server, well Rugger already said it wasn't a money problem so just what is your fucking problem with the True Hardcore server, why do so many want to see it closed down, nobody has given us a good explanation yet, if it isn't money what the fuck is it, come on big man you like to pretend you know everything, let us into this big secret please why do YOU wan't rid of this server, i can't wait for another clever big headed reply because man you are really big headed. JohnnyDos and Sweatnbullets 2
Sweatnbullets Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 213 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 820 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 521 Achievement Points: 5654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 16 Birthday: 06/06/1963 Device: Windows Posted September 11, 2014 Well part of the reason we wanted the Us hardcore server is the 64 server admins refuse to kick players who are cheaters, time and time again year after year people who have 20 30 more kills every round, better than the best XI players are allowed to stay around for the benefit of the doubt, and these players are killing our traffic. I would like to have XI members stacked up on servers, and getting rid of a server makes sense. Why can't we all get along and fix this, most of us are pretty fun to hang out online with, untill this subject is brought up. JohnnyDos and Sonovabich 2 Awards
OddJob001 Posted September 11, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) You better check with some of your fellow Admins tosser because we were told by a Head Admin months ago that your great 64 man server was having problems getting people to play there anymore, looks like you are not all on the same page don't it, we were also told that they could not remove the mini map from the Euro server because people would not play there, look now they are offering to put a mini map in because the numbers are dwindling, us regulars in the True Hardcore server were happy playing there until somebody decided they wanted more players in another server, well Rugger already said it wasn't a money problem so just what is your fucking problem with the True Hardcore server, why do so many want to see it closed down, nobody has given us a good explanation yet, if it isn't money what the fuck is it, come on big man you like to pretend you know everything, let us into this big secret please why do YOU wan't rid of this server, i can't wait for another clever big headed reply because man you are really big headed. Well, you seem to know so much about my past posts... Shouldnt that mean you know I have never supported the USHC? Its not a big secret. FYI, the US server population doesn't have issues. Has there been a week or two here and there where population is low? Of course. Summer just got over. But we are doing just fine. Your admins wont stand for fine, they strive for the best. Do you? Ed gave you the explanation, Im not sure what you dont understand? USHC took from those that populate our two servers that have been the bread and butter of our BF community over the last 3 years. No one said it was impossible to populate or that its completely dead. I feel like that is what you are thinking. The point you are missing is the concept of respecting your fellow clan members. Instead of first bitching, like you always do, and then asking, how about listening first and then discussing it like a man, not complaining like a child tosser. Right now, with the attitude you have, its not worth my time trying to explain anything more to you, it will just fall upon deaf ears. I dont have a big head. I just dont respect people who bitch, complain and always have an attitude right out of the gates. Calling your admins BULLSHIT... and I'm the one with the big head? Edited September 11, 2014 by OddJob001 Fir3Marshal 1
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