PC not wanting to start

[blackcat]

Okay recently my pc is not wanting to start, it started doing this like once a week now it is to the point it's everyday. I have to unplug it and move it around in the power strip or plug it directly in the wall and this takes awhile changing it around then finally it will start. I'm thinking maybe the power supply or the internal battery? I hate to buy a new power supply and it's only the battery. I notice when it's off I look into it and there is no little light on I think there used to be. But I could be wrong. Is there a way to check the power supply or the battery? That way I would know which to order. Any advice is good.

Thanks,

Blackcat

[Merlin007]

The battery only maintains power to memory for things like the time when the power is off.  If the battery is dead, you would need to reset the time every time you turn on your PC.  Maybe you have a faulty power bar but sounds like maybe the power supply is going.  Unless you have the tools or a spare power supply, it's not easy to say for sure and verify it is that.  If you have a spare power supply or know someone who does, try that.  Other than that, I don't have much else to suggest without buying a new one.  Good luck.

[blackcat]

5 minutes ago, Merlin007 said:

The battery only maintains power to memory for things like the time when the power is off.  If the battery is dead, you would need to reset the time every time you turn on your PC.  Maybe you have a faulty power bar but sounds like maybe the power supply is going.  Unless you have the tools or a spare power supply, it's not easy to say for sure and verify it is that.  If you have a spare power supply or know someone who does, try that.  Other than that, I don't have much else to suggest without buying a new one.  Good luck.

Thanks Merlin, I do have to reset the time sometimes. Like this morning I did. it had lost 11 mins. Which seems to me about the time it took to get it running.

[Merlin007]

Batteries are cheap. I'd dtart with that as it sounds like you may need one of those anyways and see how it goes.

[BUDMAN]

You can buy digital plug in testers for under 20.00 on line.

[blackcat]

I think I'm just going to order a new power supply and upgrade to more watts and a battery if I can figure the battery out lol. Amazon has a special on the thermaltake 700 watts right now for a few more hours for like 40, that's way cheaper than I paid for this one years ago and it's got more watts. Now I have to figure out what type of battery goes in this, are they all standard?

[2_MANY_BEERS]

1 hour ago, BUDMAN said:

You can buy digital plug in testers for under 20.00 on line.

She didn't say anything about her digital plug in tester being bad. LOL

[RobMc]

Sounds like the CMOS battery on the motherboard to me, little silver one, when they go the time goes all to hell, and it won't start if down in voltage, easy fix

 

Edited July 14, 2018 by RobMc

[Angelz]

1 hour ago, blackcat said:

Now I have to figure out what type of battery goes in this, are they all standard?

Look on one side of battery for letters and numbers. Then order that battery.

How to remove and replace a cmos battery tutorial:  https://www.wikihow.com/Replace-the-Battery-in-Your-PC

Picture shows the batteries letters and numbers:

[Angelz]

2 hours ago, blackcat said:

Is there a way to check the power supply or the battery? That way I would know which to order.

 

1 hour ago, BUDMAN said:

You can buy digital plug in testers for under 20.00 on line.

 

23 minutes ago, 2_MANY_BEERS said:

She didn't say anything about her digital plug in tester being bad. LOL

I think BUD got his suggestion from her 1st post.  I thought the same thing as him when I read it.

Edited July 14, 2018 by Angelz

[Streetcleaner]

you should really leave it on all the time unless you have to reboot....so just leave it on.......

look,I do and mines a dinosaur and it's still going...

[n00ne]

my mb takes a CR2032, i got mine at walmart.  MB ASUS Maximus V1 HERO. the battery is about the size of a nickel.   I just went through the same problem bought a new power supply (EVGA 650) and Battery. working fine now.

[Tw33tle_Dee]

Be careful with a power supply that costs $40. Power supplies can cause many different problems if they are not stable at delivering power. Some of the cheaper power supplies efficiency is only at 30 degrees which is not high enough. I would not go with anything less than 80+ bronze rated, never skimp on a power supply.

 

[XTeKK]

BlackCat... What exactly is going  on??  are you unplugging the power then it's all Screwed up??   If So, and Not before..  it's a Bios, Or otherwise known as, a Cmos battery problem..  not a power supply.    Now  if it's blue screening  durring normal pc use, or while gaming.. then it's possible you might have a voltage problem.. or maybe a bad memory module...  or could be just a bad spot on your hard drive, your Pc is alocating while making use of swap file memory use..  aka  virtual memory.

 

[Labob]

Wel you can always lean it up against a door. If it looks good there maybe it was meant to be a door stop.  Good luck cat 

[Krackennutz]

sounds to me like a rail is failing in power supply,but if you want to try the battery first not expensive ebay USA for 2 $3..https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=cr2025+battery&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&rmvSB=true&_fosrp=1

if its a 2032  $2.99 walmart...https://www.walmart.com/ip/Energizer-Lithium-2032-Coin-Battery-2-Count/15988109

2025 $4.99   https://www.walmart.com/ip/Energizer-Lithium-Coin-Watch-Electronic-Battery-2025-2-Count/15940749?findingMethod=wpa&tgtp=0&cmp=-1&relRank=6&tax=1229749_1070964_3945_473219&pt=sp&adgrp=-1&plmt=1145x345_B-C-OG_TI_2-20_HL-BOTTOM-NY&wpa_qs=0bBI167BpMsCtCJqHqQ14TCxAkpd_e40j-qz1J7uAaolhrNjW-zsDYKU1viyytXN3975YtN_CeGU9Jc4e_ItsA&bkt=&mLoc=bottom&pgid=cr20225-battery&isSlr=false&itemId=15940749&relUUID=aaa4fd78-da75-48d2-b377-a4b618dd10c4&adUid=cd311474-3a0b-419d-bd7d-8d941f82335f&adiuuid=c57ba61c-d9e5-40ce-ac38-fa3fda1d1787&adpgm=hl&pltfm=desktop

[Krackennutz]

descibes your symptoms in youtube, and how to replace cmos battery .

 

[RobMc]

???? this is the third time this has been said, read the posts.n

[blackcat]

On 7/14/2018 at 9:37 PM, XTeKK said:

BlackCat... What exactly is going  on??  are you unplugging the power then it's all Screwed up??   If So, and Not before..  it's a Bios, Or otherwise known as, a Cmos battery problem..  not a power supply.    Now  if it's blue screening  durring normal pc use, or while gaming.. then it's possible you might have a voltage problem.. or maybe a bad memory module...  or could be just a bad spot on your hard drive, your Pc is alocating while making use of swap file memory use..  aka  virtual memory.

 

You have to continually plug it up till it starts. It's a pain in the ass. I ordered a new power supply should be here Tues. It's more wattage that I had anyway and it is a 80 +, just got it on a good deal with one of Amazon's lightening sales for Prime members. I'm replacing the battery also since I know what it is now. I didn't want to take the video card out just to see what the battery is. The battery is back behind the card and it's so so so tight in there. Anyway by Tues evening it should be good to go without crawling under my desk and messing with the plug. It's not blue screening at any time. Once I get it going, it's good.

So thank you all for your comments and advice.

[RobMc]

Be careful of static, earth yourself before touching remember, better still wear an earthing strap

[Angelz]

35 minutes ago, blackcat said:

 I'm replacing the battery also since I know what it is now. I didn't want to take the video card out just to see what the battery is. The battery is back behind the card and it's so so so tight in there.

That is the easiest part of it. Unplug what is plugged into it and pull up.

Your probably gonna go nuts trying to put the power supply in with all those cords.

16 minutes ago, RobMc said:

Be careful of static, earth yourself before touching remember, better still wear an earthing strap

I really do hope she knows about that. Hate for all this she is about to do and have it fry her pc because of static.

[RobMc]

Yea, I also hope the power supply has the correct connectors for her motherboard, as time marches on connectors change, too late now. Gently support motherboard from underneath when pressing new connectors in, easy to damage. When I replace power supply I take all cards off the motherboard, makes it easier, when routeing wires.

[blackcat]

I checked to make sure it has the cords I need. The one I bought is the same brand just updated and bigger than what I had. The one that's in it right now I put in myself about lol 6 yrs ago, (yes my pc is old, but so am I) so I'm not worried about hooking it up. While I have the old power supply out, I'm going to clean everything in it really good . Get all the little dust bunnies that hide in the back. Funny thing it started right up this morning!

[RobMc]

Yea batteries do that, if not used they regain some charge, just enough to fool you and give you false starts until the voltage drops low enough not to work, you can test if you have a multimeter

[blackcat]

Maybe if I had a meter and the battery wasn't so old I would test. But I know this battery is old so I'm just going to replace it.