Freezetag Friendly Fire

[deerejon]

Let me know how you feel.

Edited December 7, 2018 by deerejon

[Nanobeast]

1. y

2. y 

Thats what i voted for .

 

[_-Draco-_]

Non-reflective damage because if you don't contribute to the team, then you can be a Popsicle

[deerejon]

Polls open until 12/12 5:pm..the results will be reflected in the next rotation....

 

[Ruggerxi]

Is there a reason why we want to put it on? Is there something happening on the server that this would address? 

[deerejon]

2 hours ago, Ruggerxi said:

Is there a reason why we want to put it on? Is there something happening on the server that this would address? 

No not at all...but as I see things on/off off/on I think that sometimes the gameplay wold change a little and figure no harm putting it there to the regulars that play there to see what they think of stuff...so far the poll is for turning it on...

I just started maintaining this server, is there a reason its off?

 

Edited December 7, 2018 by deerejon
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[Hunter1948]

I think we tried this years ago and it didn't go over very well. So if you want to try it ok but any complaints and it should go off.

[Sammy]

Nope dont change it. And that is because people are terrible at figuring out friend from foe even with a minimap and icons over friendlies.  Only way it would work is if team 1 dressed all in pink and team 2 all in orange.

[deerejon]

33 minutes ago, Sammy said:

Nope dont change it. And that is because people are terrible at figuring out friend from foe even with a minimap and icons over friendlies.  Only way it would work is if team 1 dressed all in pink and team 2 all in orange.

Did you vote?

[deerejon]

59 minutes ago, Hunter said:

I think we tried this years ago and it didn't go over very well. So if you want to try it ok but any complaints and it should go off.

Did you vote? And it depends on whos complaining and why...

For example Dragon complained about arty and ever since he started getting it, he stopped and uses it to good effect...sometimes people are scared of change but dont know why until the try. 

And dont forget, this is a poll open for a week or so...everyone gets to be heard...if it goes on and we find it doesnt improve anything and is a crappy idea it can be turned off just as easy as on...

It's like maps...some were taken out of rotation for bad spawns and such and they are off the list....others were taken out years ago due to a complaint or someone didnt like it. Dont even know if the someone whoever they were even still play so why not try again. Garden of Heat was taken out because someone didnt like that you cant thaw through the perimeter fence. I always liked that map and worked hard to get to teammates needing a defrost on the other side of the fence...strategic gameplay. I put it in this week and so far everyone I've played it with likes it. But if I get complaints (that outweigh the likes) then out it goes...

It's your server and I encourage everyone to tell me what they like and dont like...hence the poll...and the scrolling message on the server to come here and tell me how its going...

If all you all want is map changes fine, but like I tell my wife...."come on Baby...you never know you just MIGHT like it!!!"

Edited December 7, 2018 by deerejon

[Sammy]

37 minutes ago, deerejon said:

Did you vote?

As the modder who is responsible for making such things happen, or not, on another server I disqualified myself from voting.  Conflict of interest. 

[deerejon]

2 minutes ago, Sammy said:

As the modder who is responsible for making such things happen, or not, on another server I disqualified myself from voting.  Conflict of interest. 

Ahhh come on...we just came through a November that reminded us that EVERY vote counts...

[Hunter1948]

1 hour ago, deerejon said:

Did you vote? And it depends on whos complaining and why...

For example Dragon complained about arty and ever since he started getting it, he stopped and uses it to good effect...sometimes people are scared of change but dont know why until the try. 

And dont forget, this is a poll open for a week or so...everyone gets to be heard...if it goes on and we find it doesnt improve anything and is a crappy idea it can be turned off just as easy as on...

It's like maps...some were taken out of rotation for bad spawns and such and they are off the list....others were taken out years ago due to a complaint or someone didnt like it. Dont even know if the someone whoever they were even still play so why not try again. Garden of Heat was taken out because someone didnt like that you cant thaw through the perimeter fence. I always liked that map and worked hard to get to teammates needing a defrost on the other side of the fence...strategic gameplay. I put it in this week and so far everyone I've played it with likes it. But if I get complaints (that outweigh the likes) then out it goes...

It's your server and I encourage everyone to tell me what they like and dont like...hence the poll...and the scrolling message on the server to come here and tell me how its going...

If all you all want is map changes fine, but like I tell my wife...."come on Baby...you never know you just MIGHT like it!!!"

Yes I did vote. Yes agree a little change is okay but as I said if you get complaints not if you get one complaint.

 

[deerejon]

52 minutes ago, Hunter said:

Yes I did vote. Yes agree a little change is okay but as I said if you get complaints not if you get one complaint.

I wasnt being sarcastic at all, I was saying make the vote heard....

 

[Elvis9]

@deerejon, keep up the good work, You are doing a fantastic job. The only complaint I have is , "How the hell do people (and I am not saying any names, as this person is  "a pro-gamer", how do they jump 15 feet in the air and turn around to shoot you, even though they don't know you are there?"

[White_Dragon]

I want to change my VOTE to YES then we can Shoot RealEstaufa and maybe he'll learn a little about not being a Team Player. LOL

[Merlin007]

2 hours ago, Elvis9 said:

@deerejon, keep up the good work, You are doing a fantastic job. The only complaint I have is , "How the hell do people (and I am not saying any names, as this person is  "a pro-gamer", how do they jump 15 feet in the air and turn around to shoot you, even though they don't know you are there?"

 

1 hour ago, White_Dragon said:

I want to change my VOTE to YES then we can Shoot RealEstaufa and maybe he'll learn a little about not being a Team Player. LOL

Jon asking for opinions to a potential change in play guys so give him the courtesy and respect.  Lets keep this topic on track please.

[White_Dragon]

I have questions

1) Freeze tag Friendly fire - shoot a team mate - them thaw him - then shoot him again - then thaw him again you have just made 50 points in 5 seconds if you use a flame thrower? ect.................................

2) If you shoot a team mate should you be able to thaw him?

3) Does someone else have to thaw them or do you just not get points for either kill or thaw?.

4) should you have points removed for killing a team mate? 25 sounds right -10 for the kill and -15 for the thaw needed to revive them ? basically amounts to "0" points + or - to their score?

5) when you shoot a team mate should you be the one that is frozen? 

[deerejon]

35 minutes ago, White_Dragon said:

I have questions

1) Freeze tag Friendly fire - shoot a team mate - them thaw him - then shoot him again - then thaw him again you have just made 50 points in 5 seconds if you use a flame thrower? 

Thats why MAYBE this wont work...but if I do make the change it really should be reflective damage...I can set it so the teammate you shot gets NO damage and you get it all, 50/50 etc...its in the idea stage.

I can also setup punishments meant to discourage intentional shooting of teammates...spawn delay for the shooter, dropped weapon, etc...so again its just an idea....I think of this shit to keep me from thinking about work stuff when I wake up in the middle of the night...lol...

And anyhow the no's are in the lead....

Edited December 8, 2018 by deerejon

[White_Dragon]

I was sitting here after playing with the guys from Europe their night my afternoon and had those thoughts I posted above and just thought I'd ask.

I like the reflective Idea, "When you shoot a friend you freeze" it make the most sense in getting people to pay attention and not just start firing wildly.

[_-Draco-_]

On 12/7/2018 at 9:41 AM, Sammy said:

Nope dont change it. And that is because people are terrible at figuring out friend from foe even with a minimap and icons over friendlies.  Only way it would work is if team 1 dressed all in pink and team 2 all in orange.

WHAT?!?!?! Since when has there been a MAP!?!?!? I bet next you're going to tell me that there are also giant, no reason you should not see them, snowflakes above your team mates that need to be thawed!!!

[_-Draco-_]

On 12/8/2018 at 12:32 PM, deerejon said:

Thats why MAYBE this wont work...but if I do make the change it really should be reflective damage...I can set it so the teammate you shot gets NO damage and you get it all, 50/50 etc...its in the idea stage.

I can also setup punishments meant to discourage intentional shooting of teammates...spawn delay for the shooter, dropped weapon, etc...

It would be one way for teams to skip maps faster if you don't have it reflective 

 

Can the punishments be, first offense you get kicked from the server, second offense you get kicked from whatever clan you are in (the second would take a bit of computer work)

[Morris]

To improve pliability, Make Morris invulnerable..... immortal or better still invisible to the enemy?

Pretty good ideas I think.......    

[Dessy]

is there also a penalty for the player who kills his own team mates?   iv been on servers where  players where auto kicked where they killed to many team mates.

 

keep up the good work.

Edited December 12, 2018 by Dessy

[deerejon]

Well, in a startling last minute upset the no's have won by a slim margin. Friendly fire will remain off! Thanks for voting!!