Sammy Posted December 27, 2019 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted December 27, 2019 Yup, got the popup that says win7 support ending in a couple weeks. Ah well. Good while it lasted. While not the best in longevity 10 years is pretty good for an OS. For something that lasts 10 years with free support/updates it was a good investment for any software. 2009, dont even remember what I was doing then. Going to have to read up further how to disable all those added 'user friendly' things that take away control. Also all the various privacy settings. RobMc and BlackRose 2 Awards
Merlin007 Posted December 27, 2019 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1127 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8582 Content Per Day: 1.64 Reputation: 7547 Achievement Points: 76567 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Posted December 27, 2019 If you're moving to 10 soon, there are many privacy settings, some of which however can not simply be turned off. For other windows stuff such as telemetry (not sure what this all is or encompasses), check out: https://www.safer-networking.org/products/spybot-anti-beacon/ I've also made a manual registry edit and disabled automatic updates. It's still limited in nature such that when you check for updates and there are more than one available, you can not pick and choose which ones to install. It's all or nothing. Been on 10 since it came out and have not had any problems as others have experienced. Probably their porn that caused the issue lol. BlackRose, baldie and AthenA 2 1 Awards
BlackRose Posted December 27, 2019 Member ID: 2208 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 112 Topic Count: 326 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3815 Content Per Day: 0.73 Reputation: 4308 Achievement Points: 39654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 63 Joined: 02/09/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 06/09/1963 Device: Windows Posted December 27, 2019 im not going to 10,,I hate the look of it,,Im to old to learn how to get around that main screen ,,hahahahaha Plau now I would have to buy 10..lolol Awards
Labob Posted December 28, 2019 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted December 28, 2019 Hang on for a bit. Twice now I've lost my build to windows updates on ten and the last one cost me. AthenA 1 Awards
Sammy Posted December 28, 2019 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Posted December 28, 2019 I guess if I went that route, which I may have to in order to get DX12, then daily full backups will be a must. Or at the very least, assuming auto WU can be completely shut off, to always backup first anytime any update is done. Even a small one. Awards
Merlin007 Posted December 28, 2019 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1127 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8582 Content Per Day: 1.64 Reputation: 7547 Achievement Points: 76567 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Posted December 28, 2019 13 hours ago, BlackRose said: im not going to 10,,I hate the look of it,,Im to old to learn how to get around that main screen ,,hahahahaha Plau now I would have to buy 10..lolol If you running 7 now, you can still get 10 for free. BlackRose 1 Awards
Wardogs411 Posted December 28, 2019 Member ID: 20698 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 445 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 407 Achievement Points: 3533 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/18/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 04/03/1990 Device: Windows Posted December 28, 2019 been running 10 since it came out, doing all the updates once every 3 months, haven't had a single issue with my pc. Merlin007 1 Awards
Barron Posted December 28, 2019 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 191 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1799 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 1788 Achievement Points: 14358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 23 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Posted December 28, 2019 23 hours ago, Sammy said: Yup, got the popup that says win7 support ending in a couple weeks. Ah well. Good while it lasted. While not the best in longevity 10 years is pretty good for an OS. For something that lasts 10 years with free support/updates it was a good investment for any software. 2009, dont even remember what I was doing then. Going to have to read up further how to disable all those added 'user friendly' things that take away control. Also all the various privacy settings. I aint touching that windows 10 again , had it on a 240gb new SSD and I got a blue screen randomly and it then wouldnt boot. Turned out that windows 10 actually ended up wiping the whole SSD. Luckly it was on a new SSD with a fresh copy of W10 on it but still imagine if it was a 1 or 2 TB drive with important files on it and the same happened I just renewed my Zonealarm subscription for the year anyway regardless of the non windows updates or not Windows 10 enterprise is the version I would reccommend for people though if they dont want the constant windows updates. You can disable them and alot more of their telemetry data collections Awards
BlackRose Posted December 28, 2019 Member ID: 2208 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 112 Topic Count: 326 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3815 Content Per Day: 0.73 Reputation: 4308 Achievement Points: 39654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 63 Joined: 02/09/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 06/09/1963 Device: Windows Posted December 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Merlin007 said: If you running 7 now, you can still get 10 for free. oh I thought it was only for certain time..im still afraid to mess up m y comp..lolol Awards
Merlin007 Posted December 28, 2019 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1127 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8582 Content Per Day: 1.64 Reputation: 7547 Achievement Points: 76567 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, BlackRose said: oh I thought it was only for certain time..im still afraid to mess up m y comp..lolol I upgraded another of my PC's about a month ago and still worked then. Check this out if you want, pretty straight forward. Windows 10 Upgrade *** Now, this is an upgrade, repeat, upgrade, which means it overwrites your current OS and does not (should not) affect your personal files. I have done this successfully now on 4 machines and have not had any issues on any machine. My machine I use for my gaming and all personal use has been running 10 since it first came out. DISCLAIMER: The above is of my personal experience only and in no way take any responsibility if you move forward and it does not work our for you. Sorry, had to say that as many people have claimed problems with windows 10. NOTE: If you do move forward, back up all personal files as a precaution. Installed applications can always be re-installed. Edited December 28, 2019 by Merlin007 baldie, BlackRose and BUDMAN 3 Awards
BUDMAN Posted December 28, 2019 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7099 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4638 Achievement Points: 60376 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Online Last Seen: 15 minutes ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Posted December 28, 2019 Two laptops 2 pc's no problems.... BlackRose and Merlin007 2 Awards
Sammy Posted December 29, 2019 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Posted December 29, 2019 I may do the free upgrade... after I back up the entire drive in case the worst happens. I just dont like the supposedly user friendly win10 interface. This user is old school I guess. Awards
WldPenguin Posted December 29, 2019 Member ID: 2995 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 185 Topic Count: 792 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 4712 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 7325 Achievement Points: 51139 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 90 Joined: 11/17/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 02/13/1966 Device: Windows Posted December 29, 2019 I just upgraded the 5 pc's at my office out of necessity.....tax software for this season isn't going to run on Windows 7. So far, so good.......not sure about updates and all of that yet, so any advice is appreciated. loaderXI 1 Awards
loaderXI Posted December 29, 2019 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 72 Topic Count: 396 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6438 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 6581 Achievement Points: 54654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 32 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27 Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Posted December 29, 2019 40 minutes ago, WldPenguin said: I just upgraded the 5 pc's at my office out of necessity.....tax software for this season isn't going to run on Windows 7. So far, so good.......not sure about updates and all of that yet, so any advice is appreciated. Windows 10 has a habit of removing drivers and replacing with their version...They have got me 3 times so far (video and sound) got me - Device manager/device/right click/properties and record current drivers and make sure they are from the device maker rather then windows/microsoft.... If you ever have a issue after a update you can also click the event tab and it will give you a time line and you can "roll back" the drivers but I just downloaded and installed fresh...They have also trashed some older programs I used and I was forced to use different programs....As always back up on a portable because there has been some that lost personal data.... As @Barron3000 said he lost everything and I would suspect because there was no partition to protect it but I have heard of just plain personal folder going missing WldPenguin 1 Awards
Merlin007 Posted December 29, 2019 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1127 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8582 Content Per Day: 1.64 Reputation: 7547 Achievement Points: 76567 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, loaderXI said: ... but I have heard of just plain personal folder going missing Yes, I do recall reading an article about the loss of personal folders after an update that reside under the root drives user data. I personally don't use those folders on the root or OS drive but either move the location or create my own on a separate partition or disk if you have multiple physical drives (which may be a reason I did not personally get affected). This keeps your personal files away from the OS just in case. Edited December 29, 2019 by Merlin007 loaderXI 1 Awards
Labob Posted December 29, 2019 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted December 29, 2019 I do not think my crashes were hardware related. I run some odd ball programs like mouse without borders. A bunch of modding tools ect and To me I think its those type of programs that cause the bad updates. WIndows 10 aside from that works fine for me. Awards
Sammy Posted December 29, 2019 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Posted December 29, 2019 I wonder if after an upgrade you can reinstall the original win7 to a virtual disk and have both. Or is the upgrade considered the same original license. There are likely older program that dont work on win10. Awards
Merlin007 Posted December 30, 2019 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1127 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8582 Content Per Day: 1.64 Reputation: 7547 Achievement Points: 76567 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Posted December 30, 2019 On 12/29/2019 at 10:37 AM, Sammy said: I wonder if after an upgrade you can reinstall the original win7 to a virtual disk and have both. Or is the upgrade considered the same original license. There are likely older program that dont work on win10. The upgrade uses your existing win7 license. For older programs, try running them in compatibility mode for win7. Awards
Barron Posted January 1, 2020 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 191 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1799 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 1788 Achievement Points: 14358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 23 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Posted January 1, 2020 Ironically last 2/3 days my windows 7 was acting up , eventually packed in last night. Whole OS just got corrupt in the end, spent all New Years night backing up all my files and stuff. Was having boot issues all night also , woke up at 4am randomly and said to myself i'll tackle this fucker again and suddendly it worked. Eventually installed fresh copy W10 Enterprise edition on a small SSD . Have the telemetry and stuff all disabled also the future updates (all up to date currently). I'll keep you's updated haha , hopefully I dont go through another bad experience with W10 Awards
piglo Posted January 1, 2020 Member ID: 26915 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 952 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1853 Achievement Points: 15189 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 03/19/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 29 Birthday: 02/14/1968 Device: Macintosh Posted January 1, 2020 My Windows XP still is doing well on a VM with my macOS, I don't understand. Barron and Angelz 2 Awards
RobMc Posted January 1, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted January 1, 2020 I'm going to keep using 7 until at least a year after it ends, whats the difference between that and 10 with the updates turned off which you all seem to do?
Barron Posted January 1, 2020 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 191 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1799 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 1788 Achievement Points: 14358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 23 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, RobMc said: I'm going to keep using 7 until at least a year after it ends, whats the difference between that and 10 with the updates turned off which you all seem to do? Windows 10 standard and Pro have no option to disable windows updates (some of them, not all have destroyed people's pc's) Enterprise edition has the option to disable all of it and run windows they way it should realistically be run. If your ever stuck or need a windows give me a shout , I have literally all versions of Windows going back to Windows 98 haha RobMc 1 Awards
Barron Posted January 5, 2020 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 191 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1799 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 1788 Achievement Points: 14358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 23 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Posted January 5, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 1:03 PM, Barron3000 said: Windows 10 standard and Pro have no option to disable windows updates (some of them, not all have destroyed people's pc's) Enterprise edition has the option to disable all of it and run windows they way it should realistically be run. If your ever stuck or need a windows give me a shout , I have literally all versions of Windows going back to Windows 98 haha Ran into more problems than Win7 in the end , I had all the W10 updates up to date , motherboard drivers too. I just disabled the future updates and Cortana. I was having major issues, long story Went back with a fresh copy of W7 and its all back to good For people saying its a component issues or so my build is below: CPU: AMD FX-8350 GPU: Radeon R9 290x RAM: 12GB DDR3 Ran into the same sort of issues with W10 Pro (different version) with Intel i5-3470s and a R9 270x RobMc 1 Awards
Angelz Posted January 5, 2020 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Posted January 5, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 7:04 AM, piglo said: My Windows XP still is doing well on a VM with my macOS, I don't understand. My step mother used w3.1 up till 5 years ago LOL She now has w7. I told her never to put w10 in any thing she owns that runs windows. I am looking forward to w7 support being gone. I have never ever trusted microsoft since day 1. The arrogance of that company trying to spy on the entire world. When they forced w10 on all pc's that cost them a few million in lawsuits (not enough to put a dent in their bank account). The latest lawsuit on microsoft is the one that I am hoping hurts them the most. It is going to be in the billions. I am just thankful I had windows auto update turned off. I was so grateful when someone posted the update number that we could delete so that update to w10 would not happen. All the businesses they lost to linux because of w10 made me laugh. The corporate copy of w10 still can not be trusted is why most businesses went to linux. There is nothing on God's green earth that will make me install w10 in my pc. W7 4 EVER!!!
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