Manchester members

[Olive]

I hope everything is allright for you and your family guys...

[WookieSM]

I live not far from manchester and my thoughts go out to the families of the victims 22 confirmed dead so far 59 injured in hospitals around manchester.

for those who don't know a concert in manchester last night was victim to a suicide bomber

makes me sick that people even think about doing this shit in the first place 

Edited May 23, 2017 by WSMFreak
more info

[FRENCHI]

de tout cœur avec nos amis anglais ......

 

[RobMc]

Yes thank you my French friends you have suffered more than most of us, unfortunately terrorism is here to stay by the look of it, in their sick warped minds killing innocent people aids their cause whatever it is, their cowardly acts only make us good people stronger. Like Olive I have travelled a lot, there are only two types of person, regardless of race, colour etc good and bad, let us not go back a thousand years to the bad man ruling us by sword and fear, we need a deterrent and that deterrent can only be for them to see us united against them, however hard it gets, and we are not at the end of the road yet.

[Sonovabich]

It was a pop concert so people probably travelled from all over the country not just from Manchester

[Damage_inc-]

horrible  senseless killings hope you and your  families are safe

 

Edited May 23, 2017 by Damage_inc-

[HarryWeezer]

  Trying not to politicize this but I heard a report that there are some 3,500 names on the UK terror watch list. In the U.S., we can't act against terror suspects unless they break a law but that's not the case in the UK and I wonder why these people are not simply removed from the country forthwith? 

   Our thoughts are with you. Horrible, horrible thing.

[Sonovabich]

6 minutes ago, HarryWeezer said:

  Trying not to politicize this but I heard a report that there are some 3,500 names on the UK terror watch list. In the U.S., we can't act against terror suspects unless they break a law but that's not the case in the UK and I wonder why these people are not simply removed from the country forthwith? 

   Our thoughts are with you. Horrible, horrible thing.

It's called the European Union Harry, we are not allowed to, Merkel and all her globalist wankers set our laws nowadays, that's why we are trying very hard to make a clean break from these bastards.

[RobMc]

4 hours ago, HarryWeezer said:

  Trying not to politicize this but I heard a report that there are some 3,500 names on the UK terror watch list. In the U.S., we can't act against terror suspects unless they break a law but that's not the case in the UK and I wonder why these people are not simply removed from the country forthwith? 

   Our thoughts are with you. Horrible, horrible thing.

Yes Harry we're bound by the 'Human Rights Act' imposed on us by Europe, it took ten years for our now Prime minister to chuck one of them out when she was home secretary, another great milestone by our socialist/liberal loonies, it's caused untold misery to innocent people. To add insult to injury the British taxpayer funds these people too, free meals, free houses, free travel etc etc and if taken to court we defend them at our expense, we are absolutely stark raving mad, you watch Germany in around ten years time, that will be interesting.

Edited May 23, 2017 by RobMc

[DEEJAYKEG]

4 hours ago, HarryWeezer said:

  Trying not to politicize this but I heard a report that there are some 3,500 names on the UK terror watch list. In the U.S., we can't act against terror suspects unless they break a law but that's not the case in the UK and I wonder why these people are not simply removed from the country forthwith? 

   Our thoughts are with you. Horrible, horrible thing.

A lot of them, Harry, are British nationals and not even naturalised ones at that (from whom nationality could be stripped).

There is a threshold beyond which the authorities can intervene e.g. if there is evidence of collecting information (even visiting web sites).

This requires heavy surveillance which is why we live in a Big Brother society nowadays and universal monitoring of us all is no longer something just in a George Orwell novel.

The youngest victim who was killed has been revealed to have been EIGHT years old.  EIGHT!!!  How could she ever be a "crusader"?!

The reaction of some has been an outpouring of hatred but I am pleased to report that the Manchester Evening News paper set up a fund for the victims that has, within hours, raised more than £473,000 ($614,000).  If anyone wants to give Manchester some love in a financial way, the page is here:

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/westandtogethermanchester

Please, Manchester members, check in and let us know you and your loved ones are OK.  Praying and thinking of you all.

 

 

[Power!]

I am very sad about that

 

[Labob]

You know I'm not a big fan of the political side and probably a big liberal but maybe its time to kill the whole lot of them as they find them. I mean maybe its time to end it you guys have the power and now my blessing as that might be. So sad really so sad 

[Hunter1948]

My condolences to all the family members.

[Spartacus]

At the risk of hurting people feelings, this Guy states exactly how I "Feel"...

Saying... "My Thought And Prayers.... Means  Nothing!"

Time for waking up people...

Edited May 23, 2017 by Spartacus

[PimpedOutPete]

Thoughts and prayers are for the families and individuals who lost love ones in this senseless tragedy. Regardless if your liberal or conservative, We need to unify and strengthen our resolve against these  animals for this is not an act of humanity. 

Edited May 24, 2017 by PimpedOutPete

[Sonovabich]

There are still 15 people missing after this terrible incident....that is 15 that have most likely been vapourised into dust by this explosion, the body count will surely rise in the coming days, at least 6 from where i live North East England are amoungst those missing.

[RobMc]

Yea don't you just love these fuckers, Sharia law, beheadings, suicide bombs, throwing gays off towers, stoning to death etc etc not only animals but morons, they think we want to go back 500 years?? There is a very simple solution, Harry mentioned it, if it is so attractive make it treason. Then stop all benefits forever to them and their families (who surely know), either execute them or send them to one of the countries they love, the goats and sheep will be trembling, if they don't like our society and our values they should not be allowed to cause the rest of us problems, but of course they have Human Rights, apparently their victims, in this case almost entirely young girls don't, commonsense to me. So thank you America for Guantanamo, nice try but this was the result  over here,  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/22/17-british-guantanamo-detainees-20m-compensation-fund-now/,   Right I'm angry but no more politics, I'll leave that to the grown ups!

[Sonovabich]

I am all for executing them, they love death don't they? so if it's treason let's execute them all, i am not sure if we still can execute someone for treason in the UK or not, i don't care if we are accused of being barbaric or anything, i am sick of trying to be nice to these fuckers, this fucking suicide bomber in Manchester was born in the UK yes but his family were from Libya, apparently we saved them from bad old Gadaafi, this is the thanks we get from their lovely son, when Gadaafi fell why didn't they fuck off back to their lovely country.

[HarryWeezer]

   As is usually the case, the Birmingham bomber was known to English authorities. I am dumbfounded by what our English friends say. As RobMc points out, it is madness for European nations to mainly react to the consequences of Islamic terrorism rather than attack it head-on.
   Terrorists operate under a perverted view of Islam. As with the Bible, the Koran can be misinterpreted to condone violence against innocents and so these religious fundamentalists believe they are doing God's work. Logic, then, dictates what must be done.
   First, the U.S., which provides most of the money, must demand that all NATO nations unite under an act of war against terrorism worldwide. Those NATO nations which refuse to support that declaration with troops and money should be removed from the alliance.
   The fight must begin within Islamic nations. Not all who follow Islam are terrorists but all terrorists follow Islam, and countries where that is the dominant religion must not only denounce this interpretation of the Koran but mount extensive campaigns against it, including imprisoning those those who condone it - most especially the Mullahs.
   So long as Islamic nations allow radicalism to exist and to feed upon itself, it can never be stamped out. And so, those Islamic nations which fail to act are the enemies of Western civilization and should be so treated. Islamic nations which don't remove Sharia Law, which fosters fundamentalism, should be isolated financially and economically and if that doesn't bring them to their knees, the next step must be military intervention to bring down their governments.
   Of most immediate concern is a nuclear Iran, which cannot be permitted. The U.S. and Israel should immediately take out all of that infrastructure.
   Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism isn't going away until the West comes together to defend itself. It's only a matter of time before that happens. But rather than wait until it's forced, until many, many more innocent people die, isn't it better to act now?
 

[Labob]

Your right harry but I do not want to toss our kids at this mess but deep down inside I know  its the thing that needs doing and it leaves a foul taste in my thoughts even thinking abut it. I could settle on bombing them back into the stone age . There is the question of just closing them in and letting them do there thing. There's the wall that needs building but we have that in Korea. So its time for the snipers so little is the loss of the fool at the top.  

[Sonovabich]

2 hours ago, HarryWeezer said:

   As is usually the case, the Birmingham bomber was known to English authorities. I am dumbfounded by what our English friends say. As RobMc points out, it is madness for European nations to mainly react to the consequences of Islamic terrorism rather than attack it head-on.
   Terrorists operate under a perverted view of Islam. As with the Bible, the Koran can be misinterpreted to condone violence against innocents and so these religious fundamentalists believe they are doing God's work. Logic, then, dictates what must be done.
   First, the U.S., which provides most of the money, must demand that all NATO nations unite under an act of war against terrorism worldwide. Those NATO nations which refuse to support that declaration with troops and money should be removed from the alliance.
   The fight must begin within Islamic nations. Not all who follow Islam are terrorists but all terrorists follow Islam, and countries where that is the dominant religion must not only denounce this interpretation of the Koran but mount extensive campaigns against it, including imprisoning those those who condone it - most especially the Mullahs.
   So long as Islamic nations allow radicalism to exist and to feed upon itself, it can never be stamped out. And so, those Islamic nations which fail to act are the enemies of Western civilization and should be so treated. Islamic nations which don't remove Sharia Law, which fosters fundamentalism, should be isolated financially and economically and if that doesn't bring them to their knees, the next step must be military intervention to bring down their governments.
   Of most immediate concern is a nuclear Iran, which cannot be permitted. The U.S. and Israel should immediately take out all of that infrastructure.
   Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism isn't going away until the West comes together to defend itself. It's only a matter of time before that happens. But rather than wait until it's forced, until many, many more innocent people die, isn't it better to act now?
 

What will you do with Saudi Arabia Harry, they follow Sharia Law to the letter beheading or stoning woman in the street if they have committed adultery, your President has just signed one of the biggest trade(arms) deals in your country's history, we can't pick and choose which ones we like because we like to trade with them, the Saudis were heavily implicated in 911 but it was just ignored, i was reading the other day that it is them that want Iran and Syria neutered, makes you wonder if all this crap going on over there ain't down to them and us just fanning the flames, we should keep our noses out of other countries business, who gives us the right for "regime" change just because we don't like who is running things, good luck with going after Iran, they are already allied with Russia and Syria.....Russia are not going to just sit back and see their allies recent and former either fall or be seduced in Europe by the crooked European Union, their borders are being squeezed and they feel surrounded which basically they are, instead of all this crap against Russia we should be breaking our necks to ally with them, they have the same terrorist problems as the rest of us, it's madness not to aid each other, at this moment in time i think the biggest danger in the world for everyone is Islamic terrorism but most of these groups (if not all) have all been created by us in the West, it's time we stopped fighting with each other and eliminate these bastards once and for all......but it seems it suits particular groups to keep this shit going, everytime there is a terror attack it is OUR freedoms that eroded more and more which i feel is the real plan behind this.

Edited May 24, 2017 by Sonovabich

[Joe Canadian]

10 hours ago, PimpedOutPete said:

Thoughts and prayers are for the families and individuals who lost love ones in this senseless tragedy. Regardless if your liberal or conservative, We need to unify and strengthen our resolve against these  animals for this is not an act of humanity. 

Agree 100+%

[Sonovabich]

Our terror alert in the UK is now at "Critical" we have 1000 soldiers on the streets to free up Armed Police, another 4 potential terrorists have been arrested with bomb making gear, we also have Armed Police patrolling in Manchester City centre...this stuff has never been seen on this scale in the UK before.

 

[RobMc]

Remember what I sais earlier in the post about the family MUST know, well guess what,  his brother was arrested on his way to commit another atrocity, the father is in Libya - doing what?? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/24/manchester-attack-latest-detectives-hunt-terror-network/  ,  We have made the rod for our own backs, we let them protest when our brave soldiers were brought back in coffins from Afghanistan, they support the Pakistan cricket team on UK tours not the English, we let them rape and abuse our young girls in Rotherham as the police were scared due to their 'race'. etc etc etc.  We now have large percentages of European countries non Christian it will only get worse, listen to your President Americans, he's telling you not to make the same mistake of just letting anyone into the country, too late for us in Europe my children face a civil war, Sonovabich is correct the western world must ally with Russia, otherwise we will lose Russia to the East and that will not be good, and I'm talking politics again which I promised to stop?

Harry has it 'spot on' pity our leader wasn't him!

Edited May 24, 2017 by RobMc

[Sonovabich]

Apparently the "Father" who thinks his lovely son is innocent by the way is an Officer in some sort of security service or something in Libya, Libyan special forces arrested him yesterday during a live TV interview while he was telling the world of his sons innocent, i hope they don't go easy on him, yes his dirty scumbag brother is also involved in the plot and with ISIS too, 4 more of his family in Manchester have also been arrested, i am so glad we saved them from that monster Gadaafi, just think what they might have done to us if we never helped them at all.