Map Skipping

[wildthing]

IF a player or players do not like a map then spec I am tried of trying to play maps and people whining oh this takes forever to play. Pull your fucking head out of your asses and get the camping players. I have been in here over the last 2 months and listen to players whine about skipping maps. If you don't like the map ask them to remove from a rotation. freeze tag is not a run and gun game. It is a team play mod and always has been. Spec if you don't want to play but then it does take longer because the rest of us like the change in rotation so we are not always playing the same fucking maps. This has always been my feelings about skipping maps from the time i was an admin to current. If you want to run and gun go to ace mod.  Just my two cents worth.

[Sourtap]

But then again...there are some totally fcked up maps. Usually I sit a map out. But if after 3h of sittinng out crap maps, yet another pops up (constant rock music, stormy sound or filled with glitches) people get sick of it and want a decent map (not blaming any).

You suck at each map so you don't care what map you play 

[ANGUS]

Well,It was worth one response I guess......

[RobMc]

Deer admons, I luv crap maps cos all the good players leeve and I get good scores, canne we have more please?  luv u Rob

[Sammy]

Thats why its set up that if certain maps are deemed too slow for a full 9-round match then we can lower it to best of 5 rounds. Its a good compromise instead of simply complaining and making demands.

Many people put in a lot of time into making rotations for everyone. Especially when it comes to testing them for playabiity. But if there is a map that would be better if shortened people have to open their mouths and say something in the forums.

Oh and it might be crap to you but to others rainy maps are fun. Same with larger open maps that are more friendly to snipers than say Killhouse. And of course night maps.

"Sarge, I dont like fighting in the rain. Can we wait until it clears up?"

"MOVE YOUR FUCKING ASS MAGGOT!"

[ReaPeR]

only time I suggest  map rotation or skipping if it killing the server . if u go from 30-20 people to 9 theres a problem.

 

[Sammy]

Depends on why they left. Would making a particular map shorter keep those people in. They might like a particular map as a good alternative to the usual fare but not for a full 60 minutes or more. Maybe 30 at most. You can do best out of three also.

Even so you are going to get some people leaving when they dont get that constant %100 24/7 adrenaline rush that comes with constant spray and pray in a small map. Its a tough job and we should all applaud dadda for the work he does,

You have five people. Two really like a particular map. Three really hate it. And if those three dont get their way they leave. Do you say 'too bad' to those two players and take it out? Or do you try and make adjustments so everyone will think its a decent map and play it? Personally I cant stand mp_homelandsecurity with a full server and 9 rounds, but I dont think it should be removed either.

[Sourtap]

53 minutes ago, Sammy said:

Thats why its set up that if certain maps are deemed too slow for a full 9-round match then we can lower it to best of 5 rounds. Its a good compromise instead of simply complaining and making demands.

Many people put in a lot of time into making rotations for everyone. Especially when it comes to testing them for playabiity. But if there is a map that would be better if shortened people have to open their mouths and say something in the forums.

Oh and it might be crap to you but to others rainy maps are fun. Same with larger open maps that are more friendly to snipers than say Killhouse. And of course night maps.

"Sarge, I dont like fighting in the rain. Can we wait until it clears up?"

"MOVE YOUR FUCKING ASS MAGGOT!"

Hey now...my sarge made me get into my tent when I complained about the cold. Had to stay in there for 3 days tho and had to redo the assignment (2 day march) again, but then solo. But still...it was a lot warmer

[J3st3r]

Ok here's my 2 cents

 

Wouldn't be a problem if EVERY ONE would friggin Vote.  @ReaPeR very seldomly do you vote btw.

 

Map skipping is done VIA a Vote. More than 50% of the people on the server at that time Must vote Yes before I will skip the map.  Which hardly ever happens because a good 60%-70% of the people on the server Never vote.  Unless there is only a couple of people on at the time and it still takes forever to get enough people to vote.

If the server is full and your in Spectate don't bitch if you get kicked.

I'm not getting my ass chewed out AGAIN because Someone complained to someone about switching maps or not kicking spectators. And I'm not kicking Anyone that's been loading in for 3 maps and never connects. Got royally chewed out for that to so    

Edited May 10, 2018 by J3st3rXI

[FUNky]

 

[Lunkster]

[Sixgun]

on a thursday

Edited May 10, 2018 by Sixgun

[daniel]

Disable the “next map” for admins, just play all the maps in the rotation. 

If you want something changed, make a topic and all members can give their opinion, not just the ones in the server who are playing at that moment.

 

[pitbullpete]

I play all the maps I don' like all of them but this is what is available. Some of the maps have been shortend round wise that's a good thing. There used to be an auto kick for spectators after a certain time in spectate. If someone is down loading a map they show up as a negative ping when downloading then they go to spec. Oh and if you don' like a certain rotaton dadda said you can submit to him your own rotation of maps.

As Forest Gump would say

"That's all I.have to say about that"

[Unchileno]

2 hours ago, pitbullpete said:

I play all the maps I don' like all of them but this is what is available. Some of the maps have been shortend round wise that's a good thing. There used to be an auto kick for spectators after a certain time in spectate. If someone is down loading a map they show up as a negative ping when downloading then they go to spec. Oh and if you don' like a certain rotaton dadda said you can submit to him your own rotation of maps.

As Forest Gump would say

"That's all I.have to say about that"

Vote Pete for Admin..

[Lunkster]

@pitbullpete

This is for you my friend...

[ReaPeR]

I vote by saying yes or no but I don't have a key set to vote in the actual key vote . in mod settings. jester

[LilAcorn]

Every time there is a sniper map and there was just one on a few mins ago and everyone was saying keep in voice and in chat and in TS and a few said yes to skip.... i havent had the damn chance to play on it and it gets skipped. Skipping maps causes a lot of player's games crash therefore not wanting to play. I quit after they skipped this map, i have said it if they skip it again i will quit the server. i have already vented to wildpenguin in TS yesterday or day before yesterday that it is dumb to skip maps. so her and pigdog skipped the map. this makes people not want to play period, you start losing players when they really wanted to play such map just because some cry baby dont like the map because of snipers or its to dark or this or that. just sit in spec or leave the server for a few mins then come back when map is over. let those who want to have fun no matter what the map is to enjoy their fun.

vent over... sick of this shit.

[Gatorgirl]

Maps are only skipped when 50% or more vote yes to skip the map.  It is the admin group's decision that if a majority of the players want to skip then we will skip the map.  Our goal is to keep the server as populated as possible.  I'm sorry if you don't agree.

[Sammy]

So, when its 51 to 49 the map is skipped. Still means 1/2 the server is going to be unhappy. Perhaps the threshold should be larger than that.

[Gatorgirl]

20 hours ago, Sammy said:

So, when its 51 to 49 the map is skipped. Still means 1/2 the server is going to be unhappy. Perhaps the threshold should be larger than that.

Not necessarily, most of the time people don't even bother to vote. But when a map comes on and 1/2 the people leave because it isn't skipped that's a problem.  The admin team held a discussion on this matter and this is what was voted on as a result.

[FUNky]

I think it’s hilarous that the people who get mad and quit when they don’t get their way are calling everyone else cry babies.  My opinion is that when there are 25 people in the server and over half don’t like a map and five or six others don’t care one way or the other, the map should be skipped.

I don’t get my feelings hurt if I don’t like a map and we do end up playing it but if that’s what you want to do, head on out.  My wife and I never responded to temper tantrums from our son and soon enough, he learned that they didn’t work.  Maybe we just need to step over you and go on about our business when you throw yourselves down and start pitching a fit. 

The whiny posts notifying everyone about someone’s intention to drop their tags or never play the servers again are ridiculous.

”Don’t go away mad, just go away”  —Stitch Jones

Edited May 13, 2018 by FUNky

[Sourtap]

50 minutes ago, FUNky said:

I think it’s hilarous that the people who get mad and quit when they don’t get their way are calling everyone else cry babies.  My opinion is that when there are 25 people in the server and over half don’t like a map and five or six others don’t care one way or the other, the map should be skipped.

I don’t get my feelings hurt if I don’t like a map and we do end up playing it but if that’s what you want to do, head on out.  My wife and I never responded to temper tantrums from our son and soon enough, he learned that they didn’t work.  Maybe we just need to step over you and go on about our business when you throw yourselves down and start pitching a fit. 

The whiny posts notifying everyone about someone’s intention to drop their tags or never play the servers again are ridiculous.

”Don’t go away mad, just go away”  —Stitch Jones

Still got my tantrums you focker! 

[Sammy]

Its still the same thing. To keep that 1/2 in the server... assuming they werent leaving anyways... the 1/2 that remained to play that map are not a consideration. Their choice is voided. It is an understandable catch-22 but it still comes down to 'why' some leave with some supporting numbers. Maybe they are done with games. Maybe they are done with freezetag and going to a standard TDM game. If however its because a certain map is too long that can be easily dealt with. But if its because it doesnt conform to their insisted 24/7 style of play then too bad.

Of course you could use this approach to bunny hopping. Half the players hate it. But it remains and those that dont like it can go elsewhere. Hmm, maybe I should add that to the mod. Allow a call vote on whether or not to shut off bunny hopping. An interesting thought. Your ability to hop is shut off because %51 says so.

[Dessy]

hey hey  lets talk about  map skipping   none such talk about removing the hop from our server  shhhhsssss you