djMot Posted February 16, 2017 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5234 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 11106 Achievement Points: 48752 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted February 16, 2017 Ditch your Antivirus program UNLESS it's Microsoft Defender. No one, and I mean NO ONE knows how to protect Windows better than Microsoft themselves. If you have not upgraded past at least 8.1 (and what the fuck are you waiting for?), read the last paragraph of this article, otherwise, time to face some cold hard facts. Your non-Microsoft AV program is absolutely putting you at greater risk. http://www.zdnet.com/article/ex-top-mozilla-dev-to-windows-users-ditch-all-antivirus-except-microsofts-defender/ Damage_inc-, L!ckALotAPus, HarryWeezer and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
L!ckALotAPus Posted February 16, 2017 Member ID: 21216 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 20 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1695 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 1732 Achievement Points: 15803 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Birthday: 02/09/1966 Share Posted February 16, 2017 i have ben saying that for years djMot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barron Posted February 16, 2017 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 190 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1794 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1775 Achievement Points: 14304 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Share Posted February 16, 2017 Ditch your Antivirus program UNLESS it's Microsoft Defender. No one, and I mean NO ONE knows how to protect Windows better than Microsoft themselves. If you have not upgraded past at least 8.1 (and what the fuck are you waiting for?), read the last paragraph of this article, otherwise, time to face some cold hard facts. Your non-Microsoft AV program is absolutely putting you at greater risk. http://www.zdnet.com/article/ex-top-mozilla-dev-to-windows-users-ditch-all-antivirus-except-microsofts-defender/ I don't agree with that whatsoever I am sorry. I am on Windows 8.1 currently and I don't feel the need to run Microsoft Defender when it can barely catch half as trojans as a paid AV can. I currently am paying for Zone Alarm Professional anti virus and firewall for over 3 years now. Only once in the last 2/3 years I didn't have ZoneAlarm as it expired so I began experimenting with other free AV software and they did absolutely nothing at all apart from ruin all of my firewall permissions and much more. With that alone I said enough was enough at the time and went ahead and purchased another licence for ZoneAlarm and everything was back to normal. In that time I was without ZoneAlarm I ran multiple free AV's such as AVG/Avast and even Microsoft Defender. They all literally did nothing apart from detect files that are already on your HDD I knew weren't viruses and they suspected them of being keyloggers/trojans (which they weren't). I had all the free AV only run on my C drive and had a copy of the files that in the past were accused of trojans in rar files backed up on another drive so they would be kept safe. Most of free AV's including Microsoft Defender removed the files automatically without any confirmation and they were literally the only files they ever caught. Also with Microsoft defender I never got once a pop up on a dodgy website saying that there a suspicious javascript file or an anti-phishing tool running on this website. Overall security like that is worth paying the extra bit of money for as you never know these days what is running on certain websites. I even experimented with paid ZoneAlarm and running NoScript on a web browser and it was detecting the suspicious javascripts. More or less they were all on those free soccer live stream websites but then again you can see how vulnerable people would be on those websites L!ckALotAPus and KicknDatAzz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted February 16, 2017 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted February 16, 2017 Well like many others I dont trust win10 as I am very particular with privacy and other things. Maybe that means for most internet related stuff run a linux vm as an extra layer of protection. I dont recall anything ever blocking a firefox update. L!ckALotAPus and YACCster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted February 16, 2017 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On all of my home computers I've been saying no to Win10 forever. Now they're making it impossible to use certain sites unless I do the update, otherwise I just use Firefox. He'll I can't even post on XI using IE. YouTube won't let me watch video using my older version of IE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted February 16, 2017 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3351 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4089 Achievement Points: 45243 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted February 16, 2017 I'd insert a little exception here, IBM has over 100,000 computers that use just the OS for AV: https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/19/jamf-ibm-mac-deployment/ L!ckALotAPus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Barron Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 190 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1794 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1775 Achievement Points: 14304 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 Here is a link to an independent AV website that tests out numerous of big branded Anti virus softwares and compares them to each other for each operating system as far back as XP. https://www.av-test.org/en/ Windows Defender's protection is nearly always down at the worst....free anti viruses such as Avast and Avg still out perform it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 Maybe someone was offered a job at Microsoft but has to first pledge by promoting its products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 Ditch your Antivirus program UNLESS it's Microsoft Defender. No one, and I mean NO ONE knows how to protect Windows better than Microsoft themselves. If you have not upgraded past at least 8.1 (and what the fuck are you waiting for?), read the last paragraph of this article, otherwise, time to face some cold hard facts. Your non-Microsoft AV program is absolutely putting you at greater risk. http://www.zdnet.com/article/ex-top-mozilla-dev-to-windows-users-ditch-all-antivirus-except-microsofts-defender/ you are so full of it... Defender??? hahahhaaha ZoneAlarm kicks the shit out of it. Anyone who uses Windows 10 puts them self at risk. My 7 compared to your 10... mine is much more secure and blazing fast on a SSD. L!ckALotAPus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 296 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4473 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3635 Achievement Points: 36539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 hahaha you'all doomed for M$N is a virus to moniter and pester you to buy crap that they push on you this why OS is sluggish eating cpu time hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 1238 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted February 17, 2017 Nope!Better to make an informed decision based on actual testing. See: https://www.virusbulletin.com/testing/results/latest/vb100-antimalware hxtr and KicknDatAzz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Damit1 Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 1188 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 258 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1692 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 1355 Achievement Points: 15036 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 25, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I have use defender since going to win10. However I dont count on defender or any other program for my security... I just dont put anything on my computer that I dont care if it gets stolen, recked or other. What would anyone want with my login info for XtremIdios.com. Maybe they want my spam and junk email acct... I say have at it. lol ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 12 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 I got a 3 month trial version of Bullguard when i got my new PC and when that ran out i paid for another year, i am happy with it. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djMot Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5234 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 11106 Achievement Points: 48752 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 On all of my home computers I've been saying no to Win10 forever. Now they're making it impossible to use certain sites unless I do the update, otherwise I just use Firefox. He'll I can't even post on XI using IE. YouTube won't let me watch video using my older version of IE. Making it impossible to use certain sites? What sites? You mean the ones running requiring Adobe Flash player? It's been long understood that Flash is an over-exploited technology and should be retired. Sadly, it sometimes takes a forcing function to push that kind of wrecking ball into motion. However, this is NOT a Windows 10 issue. Let's be perfectly clear about another thing here. While I absolutely love and support Windows 10, I am far from taking a position that Microsoft can do no wrong. Internet Explorer is the prime example of a MAJOR piece of indispensable software - the web browser - that Microsoft has fucked up so badly I should think it would be an embarrassment to them. Well, I guess it sort of was since they started over with Edge. But so far, it's a POS, too. Google Chrome, on the other hand embraces the newest and safest technologies only. You can't run Flash on Chrome, but YouTube works just fine in Chrome using the HTML5 media engine, which is a part of the HTML5 specification, btw. Everyone needs to go this direction. So far, Firefox lets you make an exception and run Flash anyway. Not ideal, but at least they have started to initially block it before letting you shoot yourself in the foot with it. Why is IE such a POS? Because Microsoft never followed the standards, apparently believing they were above all that. In the meantime, browsers like Firefox and Chrome fully adhered to the standards. Web developers, faced with following the standards (as they should) or pandering to Microsoft's abomination (which still has a seriously large market share since it comes with Windows and people who don't know better blindly believe it must be a great browser) came up with hacks to force IE into some sort of normal behavior using special CSS directives like: <!--[if lte IE 7]> which means, "if the version of this browser is less than or equal to (lte) IE version 7, then override the normal style sheet and use the following one instead." And by the way, I copied that snippet of code from THIS website. Anyway, point is. This thread is about Antivirus programs, not dated and dangerous browser technologies. Just trying to shed some light on that distinction. And for the record, being a long-standing lover of Firefox, I have recently made the decision to make the move to Chrome as my daily driver due to its superior speed and the way it sandboxes each browser tab thereby stabilizing the browsing environment. And that's not to mention its transparency in letting you know what extensions are gaining access to when you install them so you are at least going in eyes-wide-open. Chrome is not without its faults, but I'm coming to grips with what I must do to enjoy a faster, safer, and more stable internet experience. HarryWeezer, Damit1 and FUNky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5234 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 11106 Achievement Points: 48752 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 you are so full of it... Defender??? hahahhaaha ZoneAlarm kicks the shit out of it. Anyone who uses Windows 10 puts them self at risk. My 7 compared to your 10... mine is much more secure and blazing fast on a SSD. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA omg. too funny. Damit1 and BigPapaDean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
KicknDatAzz Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 833 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 766 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 591 Achievement Points: 5693 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 04:19 AM Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 Ditch your Antivirus program UNLESS it's Microsoft Defender. No one, and I mean NO ONE knows how to protect Windows better than Microsoft themselves. If you have not upgraded past at least 8.1 (and what the fuck are you waiting for?), read the last paragraph of this article, otherwise, time to face some cold hard facts. Your non-Microsoft AV program is absolutely putting you at greater risk. http://www.zdnet.com/article/ex-top-mozilla-dev-to-windows-users-ditch-all-antivirus-except-microsofts-defender/ LOL! Fake News! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5234 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 11106 Achievement Points: 48752 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 LOL! Fake News! NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 Unless firefox changed it I thought they simply required a specific version or it wouldnt run. But maybe later they set disabled as the default. I have it but wont turn it on unless it is a reputable site that wont work at all without it. Fortunately I havent seen many these days. At least the ones that keep up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 hahaha you'all doomed for M$N is a virus to moniter and pester you to buy crap that they push on you this why OS is sluggish eating cpu time Exactly my point. Windows 10 is spyware. KicknDatAzz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L!ckALotAPus Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 21216 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 20 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1695 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 1732 Achievement Points: 15803 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Birthday: 02/09/1966 Share Posted February 17, 2017 you are so full of it... Defender??? hahahhaaha ZoneAlarm kicks the shit out of it. Anyone who uses Windows 10 puts them self at risk. My 7 compared to your 10... mine is much more secure and blazing fast on a SSD. to bad windows 7 does not do Direct X 12 hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 to bad windows 7 does not do Direct X 12 Does a Mac? If so when I need it I will buy a Mac. Screw Microsoft. L!ckALotAPus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L!ckALotAPus Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 21216 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 20 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1695 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 1732 Achievement Points: 15803 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Birthday: 02/09/1966 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Does a Mac? If so when I need it I will buy a Mac. Screw Microsoft. ask Yackster but i am not sure about apple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny3Time Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 20371 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 159 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 306 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 341 Achievement Points: 2727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 06/11/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 I agree with the article on paid AV products as far as the products mentioned. I would never trust my comp to Nortons McAffee Trend Micro Commodo etc... all bloated junkware. Eset and Malwarebytes.....never a worry 24oz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Johnny3Time Posted February 17, 2017 Member ID: 20371 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 159 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 306 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 341 Achievement Points: 2727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 06/11/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted February 17, 2017 All of you that think you are somehow "safe" on windows 7, I hope you realize MS is slowly integrating all the same things into 7 that scare you so much in 10. Sonovabich and Dessy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted February 18, 2017 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted February 18, 2017 All of you that think you are somehow "safe" on windows 7, I hope you realize MS is slowly integrating all the same things into 7 that scare you so much in 10. I have not put one patch on after SP1. So what is changing on my computer? Why fix what is not broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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