grape-drank Posted September 23, 2013 Member ID: 8435 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 5 Achievement Points: 35 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 21, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I am a weekly guest of the XI servers, a privilege I appreciate very much. I don't have a mic so membership is not something for me. Up until this evening I thought I had a firm command of the rules. It is my understanding that due to the nature of our gaming style, especially the colorful way we express ourselves from time-to-time that XI is strictly an adult server. I seem to recall an Admin weighing in on that subject at some point. I pointed out to a 9 year old that he was not supposed to be on the server. I could be wrong; if I am the mistake will not be made again. There were players that weighed in , in favor of the child playing to which I stated I disagree. They eloquently pointed out that I was a guest and that I could leave if I did not like it. They were absolutely right, I am a guest, its a privilege of me being there and it may have been out-of-line for me to express my interpretation of the rules. Maybe some clarification is in order. I don't feel comfortable using the type of colorful language we use from time-to-time in the presence of a 9 year old, and as a father of small children I wouldn't want my children to hear that. If I was wrong in telling that child he should not be on the server I would like to apologize to the entire XI membership and Admins. Thank you for allowing me to be a guest on your servers, Tony AKA- Grape-Drank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 1450 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1210 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 469 Achievement Points: 7995 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7 Birthday: 06/02/1997 Device: Linux Share Posted September 24, 2013 Children are allowed to play on the servers. You cannot stop people from playing just because of their age. If they had no mic and did not type how would you know what age they are? If parents of the child allow them to play and are aware of what goes on in the servers then that's their choice. You can agree or disagree. If you know a young child is in servers and don't want to use bad language, then don't. If you want to, go ahead. I played on these very servers when I was ten with my parents fully aware of what discussions and language occurred. It is up to the parents. CobraBites, Xalandra, Hemps and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted September 24, 2013 Go on youtube and look for MW3 gameplay. Many 9 year olds and their language will shock you. YellowSnow and JohnnyQuest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
CobraBites Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Share Posted September 24, 2013 yes it is true that this is an adult server...however in all honesty we really cant govern open public servers that minors have access to....on the other hand yes we do allow minors play on our servers all ages are allowed....all we ask is keep in mind when like telling dirty jokes or certain way of talkn when they on is being said in front of them should be limited...just keep in mind that our rules and policies are ours to make and some of our members dont like it when registered users says something...but if you ever have problem and/or question bout something always feel free to ask them in our forums that what they are here for... YellowSnow, dadda2, JohnnyQuest and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraBites Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Go on youtube and look for MW3 gameplay. Many 9 year olds and their language will shock you. ikr...totally agree... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2J2HWN714 TecHnOBoY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRSin Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 45 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 68 Topic Count: 981 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 9046 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 3568 Achievement Points: 66033 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 02/25/1951 Device: Windows Share Posted September 24, 2013 First welcome to the forum Grape-Drank , Yes we do allow minors to play , It's the up to there parents to police them , But if they get out of contol we will bann them like anyone else, And if there using there parents game key it will banned to , I know sometimes a 9 year old can get a irratating , TecHnOBoY, billyblade and BigPapaDean 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Giggles Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 1217 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1596 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 1840 Achievement Points: 14592 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 06:54 PM Birthday: 01/21/1978 Device: Android Share Posted September 24, 2013 Grape I was the player and the reason I said if you did not like it you could leave was because after I told you 3 times it's up to the parent to police the child not us you kept at it ...Now if I come across as rude I am sorry but when I told you it was ok you had to just keep at it ..... TedsofBeverlyHills, JohnnyQuest and Xalandra 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
StormCrow Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 480 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 251 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2648 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 4848 Achievement Points: 45908 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 30 Joined: 09/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 09:57 PM Birthday: 03/11/1975 Device: Windows Share Posted September 24, 2013 My 9 year old son plays the game. He plays with the knowledge that he doesnt repeat what he hears. As an admin i AM fully aware of how things tend to get, to be honest, i have watched him play with speakers on, he doesnt pay attention to the ramblings, just the game talk as he is always trying to do his best to get a good score. When i see a Jr on (with the exception of our Jr's and Vicky who are on the cusp of adulthood AND act more adult then most people on the server!) i tend to try to tone it down a bit, that is MY preference and by NO means a rule of any sort and i dont expect anyone to tone it down when my kids are on. Keep playing, have fun and enjoy the game, if you are uncomfotable cussing and swearing when kids are on... then dont do it... but not everyone thinks the same. dadda2, BigPapaDean, JohnnyDos and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
ANGU5 Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 2985 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 71 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1671 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 3013 Achievement Points: 20186 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 12:50 PM Birthday: 12/01/1966 Device: Android Share Posted September 24, 2013 My 9 year old son plays the game. He plays with the knowledge that he doesnt repeat what he hears. As an admin i AM fully aware of how things tend to get, to be honest, i have watched him play with speakers on, he doesnt pay attention to the ramblings, just the game talk as he is always trying to do his best to get a good score. When i see a Jr on (with the exception of our Jr's and Vicky who are on the cusp of adulthood AND act more adult then most people on the server!) i tend to try to tone it down a bit, that is MY preference and by NO means a rule of any sort and i dont expect anyone to tone it down when my kids are on. Keep playing, have fun and enjoy the game, if you are uncomfotable cussing and swearing when kids are on... then dont do it... but not everyone thinks the same. Than you Stormy ,My thoughts, and you saved me some typing )) JohnnyQuest and Gatorgirl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
billyblade Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 34 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 47 Topic Count: 182 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2097 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 1003 Achievement Points: 14880 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12, 2018 Birthday: 04/29/1966 Share Posted September 24, 2013 yup...its like letting your kids watch southpark because its a cartoon...i never did with my son..no way. I AM DA GAMECHANGER AND I DONT KNOW YOU ARE A KID ON SERVER TIL I HEAR YOU SPEAK...THEN I DONT CARE. THEN I MUTE YOU AND RAZ MY BUDS IN A TYPICALLY ADULT XI MANNER!!! ANGU5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted September 24, 2013 Go on youtube and look for MW3 gameplay. Many 9 year olds and their language will shock you. ikr...totally agree... Perfect example. Of course if it were up to me I would ban his ass for being annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
dadda2 Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 1566 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1152 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 7674 Content Per Day: 1.51 Reputation: 4167 Achievement Points: 68081 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 8 Joined: 07/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 5, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2013 stormcrows hit the nail on the head enjoy the game and keep playing baldie, PingLo and JohnnyQuest 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabreeyes Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 1642 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 22 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 900 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 241 Achievement Points: 6952 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 3, 2016 Birthday: 07/30/1958 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Go on youtube and look for MW3 gameplay. Many 9 year olds and their language will shock you. ikr...totally agree... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2J2HWN714 this kid should be banned, and if this was my kid he would no longer have a computer or console. He would be perma banned by me Bas and john tams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsofBeverlyHills Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 255 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 24 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1809 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 2091 Achievement Points: 15969 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 14 Birthday: 12/17/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted September 24, 2013 Grape Drink I was in that server when you told that youngboy to leave, he was polite and respectful I enjoyed playing with him as I dowith you, you are a very competitive player. I'm going to guess that you might of been having a bad day. I played with you beforeand I did not see any negative issues. But today was another matter you calledme out on being on a spawn point, first this is the first time I played thismap and don't know where the spawn points are. second after being killed by youtwice from that so called spawn where you were camped from where you killed me 2 times from, I came across the map and killed you and you came back treetimes and I got lucky and killed you all three times. My real is issue is sportsmanship I get killed so manytimes at spawn points or just seconds after I spawned and you will never here me complain,,,,, its just part of the game. For some reason their seems to be a small minority of whiners on this server like I never seen before, if I did notlove the maps and mods I would never player on this server. Of course theirs alot of fun and great folks playing on this server too and they are the majority, I would like to suggest to you that in the future you really make sure your right before you go a whine tangent andaccuse someone in error and be one of our cool guys you certainly know how toplay. Most important the fact that you apologized says something good about you and I respect you for that............. Ted Paperman, JohnnyQuest and Giggles 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'm not sure whether the issue features in Admins' training or the wider perceptions of our gaming community but one thing I would ask people to look out for when children are playing on the clan's servers are any attempts to elicit personal information from them. If someone seems over-friendly towards a child in the game, it may indicate something more sinister. I know the problem of "grooming" is associated more with social networks but, if guest kids are going to be permitted to play, we should look out for them whilst they're here. I haven't read about any instances of this occurring, but, as the authorities polish their act with regards to predators using other online means, the threat cannot be precluded. I'd suggest that Admins and users take similar action to that used when we suspect cheating - video with audio would capture voice chat and noting time/date/server/map would help retrieve any chat log for referral to local law enforcement. It seems logical that any such action by a player towards a child would result in a permanent ban? BigPapaDean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BigPapaDean Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6529 Content Per Day: 1.25 Reputation: 4411 Achievement Points: 63453 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 17 Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted September 24, 2013 I have seen some very good points made here and while I would agree with most of them it occurs to me the only ones we really should address are the ones that directly involves our servers and clan and all servers. We can't use youtube to excuse or judge what is right and wrong on our servers. They may be valid but not as part of this discussion. I wasn't there and some that were has spoken and said what happened and Rascal let me just say you said exactly what I would have said in a very well spoken piece. Thank you for being up on the rules and how to answer questions about them. Some times someone like me who has a very protective mindset about these servers gets to over the top, but the rules for us here are what matters. I too have reservations about the use of language with miners, but that's just me. My mouth sometimes runs away but children make me take a second thought. Our servers are for us to have fun and enjoy ourselves. Beings that is the case then don't cause a scene about language unless it is one of two uses. A personal attack or a racial slur of any kind> Keg I believe what you posted should be what all of us adults should do anytime we have a cluse someone is out of order and putting a child at risk. I appreciate your thoughts and comments about that. We all need to be reminded how big and ugly the world we live in from time to time even in places where we go to play and relax. Thanks DeeJayKeg! Rascal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Joe Canadian Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted September 24, 2013 My 9 year old son plays the game. He plays with the knowledge that he doesnt repeat what he hears. As an admin i AM fully aware of how things tend to get, to be honest, i have watched him play with speakers on, he doesnt pay attention to the ramblings, just the game talk as he is always trying to do his best to get a good score. When i see a Jr on (with the exception of our Jr's and Vicky who are on the cusp of adulthood AND act more adult then most people on the server!) i tend to try to tone it down a bit, that is MY preference and by NO means a rule of any sort and i dont expect anyone to tone it down when my kids are on. Keep playing, have fun and enjoy the game, if you are uncomfotable cussing and swearing when kids are on... then dont do it... but not everyone thinks the same. I agree 100%. I allow both, my 11 year old son and 9 year old daughter to play. No complaints, the ramblings on the servers are milk and cookies compared to the things they hear at school. Bas and JohnnyQuest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JohnnyQuest Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 1965 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1176 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 1082 Achievement Points: 8599 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 15, 2016 Birthday: 02/11/1969 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'm not sure whether the issue features in Admins' training or the wider perceptions of our gaming community but one thing I would ask people to look out for when children are playing on the clan's servers are any attempts to elicit personal information from them. If someone seems over-friendly towards a child in the game, it may indicate something more sinister. I know the problem of "grooming" is associated more with social networks but, if guest kids are going to be permitted to play, we should look out for them whilst they're here. I haven't read about any instances of this occurring, but, as the authorities polish their act with regards to predators using other online means, the threat cannot be precluded. I'd suggest that Admins and users take similar action to that used when we suspect cheating - video with audio would capture voice chat and noting time/date/server/map would help retrieve any chat log for referral to local law enforcement. It seems logical that any such action by a player towards a child would result in a permanent ban? wtf?,,,,how did this get this derailed?,,,it boils down to parent your kid or let him hear colourful language...two options, this is way overboard.who ta piss would ask a kid their information?unless it was who's kid are you...[clan member],,my nephew just laughs at all the sentence enhancers we use sometimes...this is going a bit over the top Mr. Keg. Bas, Giggles, Bryuk and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryuk Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 266 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 673 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 125 Achievement Points: 3852 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2022 Birthday: 11/16/1964 Share Posted September 24, 2013 fuck ja JohnnyQuest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TecHnOBoY Posted September 24, 2013 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Hey Grape, welcome to the forums. Nice to see you around here.As many members and admins said above: Children are allowed and it is not in our hand to control them. If their parentsallow them to play games which are rated 18+... There is nothing any admin can do against this kids. Sure, they could ban them, but why? For playing a game? IMHO there are only two reasons: they are disrespectful or offensive to other players. Also you can not expect from all players to change their gaming style or terms.We have junior members like Rascal, Cobrabites Jr and many more. And playing with them is always fun.See you on the field JohnnyQuest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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