RANDALL Posted July 10, 2018 Member ID: 2582 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 778 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 6919 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2021 Birthday: 07/22/1991 Posted July 10, 2018 Hello, As many of you know, I love to use shotguns in video games. However, I do not know too much about them in real life. I would like to purchase a pump action shotgun for home defense and occasional target practice at a gun range. If anyone has advice for a good shotgun to buy, I'd greatly appreciate it. The reason I am interested in a pump action is because I heard they don't need to be calibrated, per ammo type, like an auto loading shotgun and have more versatility for what type of ammunition I load into it. Particularly, if I can shoot non-lethal bean bag rounds, that is what I'd like. I don't want to kill anybody, although of course I'd keep that type of ammo too. We had to down size and move into a more affordable home when my Dad died, and the area we live in now is not that great. Thanks. V/R, RANDALL ausimatador and piglo 1 1
deerejon Posted July 10, 2018 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3714 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28467 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) I own a bunch of shotguns but my first and favorite and most versatile is my Remington 870 express. I bought it (OMG) 30yrs ago.... It came with 2 barrels (1 slug barrel and 1 Bird shot barrel) and a few different chokes. It never jammed in my recollection, can bang through the woods and mud/rain and still is very affordable. I deer hunt with the slug barrel (or just blow holes in shit) and Bird and skeet/trap shoot with the shot barrel. And don't let the skeet/trap shooters lead you on...with practice you can break both birds with a pump... https://www.remington.com/shotguns/pump-action/model-870/model-870-express Mine is 12 ga. So...its cheap, dependable, versatile, durable and easy as anything to use. Edited July 10, 2018 by deerejon EastCoast50, FUNky, RANDALL and 5 others 7 1 Awards
Tron Posted July 10, 2018 Member ID: 4147 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 831 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 919 Achievement Points: 6736 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/07/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 4 Birthday: 07/25/1968 Device: iPhone Posted July 10, 2018 Get a Benelli SuperNova Tactical if you want a pump for home defense....although personally I have a Benelli M4....it's a bit more spendy though and it's a gas operated semi-auto. FUNky, ANGUS, L!ckALotAPus and 1 other 3 1 Awards
L!ckALotAPus Posted July 10, 2018 Member ID: 21216 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 20 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1695 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1732 Achievement Points: 15803 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Birthday: 02/09/1966 Posted July 10, 2018 all I can say is when you hear "shick ,shick!" you know it is my police issued Smith & Wesson 3000 with a short barrel to stand up in a squad car in the late 80's EastCoast50, PHUCKITMAN, Painsponge and 3 others 6
Blackbart Posted July 10, 2018 Member ID: 51 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 342 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5974 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 3766 Achievement Points: 45818 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 06/26/1949 Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) A word of advice, forget the bean bag rounds. If you feel you need to use a gun it should be a lethal situation. Nobody wants to shoot someone, but no one wants to be beaten or killed by an intruder. Anyone that breaks into your home has already shown a disregard for you and your family's life. Edited July 10, 2018 by Blackbart RANDALL, BigPapaDean, PHUCKITMAN and 17 others 18 2 Awards
Painsponge Posted July 10, 2018 Member ID: 294 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 113 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 981 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 920 Achievement Points: 8801 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/07/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 05:20 PM Birthday: 10/29/1963 Device: Windows Posted July 10, 2018 I have only ever owned Mossberg 500, currently in the pistol grip config. Six shot with one in the chamber,...if you need more than one shot to down an intruder, you need more practice. Another aspect of choosing home defense items is the ammo. If you live in an apartment with neighbors close by, then birdshot is going to be the choice. If you are in a house on a lot and no neighbors or other family members to worry about, then slug or buckshot should be your choice. Happy hunting! Spartacus, loaderXI, L!ckALotAPus and 2 others 4 1 Awards
RANDALL Posted July 10, 2018 Member ID: 2582 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 778 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 6919 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2021 Birthday: 07/22/1991 Author Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Blackbart said: A word of advice, forget the bean bag rounds. If you feel you need to use a gun it should be a lethal situation. Nobody wants to shoot someone, but no one wants to be beaten or killed by an intruder. Anyone that breaks into your home has already shown a disregard for you and your family's life. Good point. Thanks.
RANDALL Posted July 10, 2018 Member ID: 2582 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 778 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 6919 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2021 Birthday: 07/22/1991 Author Posted July 10, 2018 4 hours ago, deerejon said: I own a bunch of shotguns but my first and favorite and most versatile is my Remington 870 express. I bought it (OMG) 30yrs ago.... It came with 2 barrels (1 slug barrel and 1 Bird shot barrel) and a few different chokes. It never jammed in my recollection, can bang through the woods and mud/rain and still is very affordable. I deer hunt with the slug barrel (or just blow holes in shit) and Bird and skeet/trap shoot with the shot barrel. And don't let the skeet/trap shooters lead you on...with practice you can break both birds with a pump... https://www.remington.com/shotguns/pump-action/model-870/model-870-express Mine is 12 ga. So...its cheap, dependable, versatile, durable and easy as anything to use. deerejon, I also live in NJ. Are you familiar with the gun laws? Do I need some sort of permit? ANGUS and YACCster 1 1
ANGUS Posted July 11, 2018 Member ID: 2985 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1688 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 3056 Achievement Points: 20377 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 03:04 AM Birthday: 12/01/1966 Device: Android Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) https://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2013/08/twenty-plenty Lots of good advice Randall.. You really need to think before buying a gun home defense... You need to understand your laws where you live and how they apply to home defence in your state... Also 20 gauge is all you need. With right choke and shells its plenty of gun for home use... Go to a good local dealer and try to shoot everything your looking at so you can get use to it...And remember one thing.. You don't pull a gun unless you are going to use it and understand the taking of a life... Also always make sure whats behind your target.... Good luck and please be safe.... Edited July 11, 2018 by ANGU5 RANDALL, Blackbart, LaRSin and 6 others 8 1 Awards
Timmah! Posted July 11, 2018 Member ID: 26443 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 38 Topic Count: 501 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 6181 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 10622 Achievement Points: 52816 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 121 Joined: 11/01/17 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 09/26/1971 Device: Android Posted July 11, 2018 No respawns. ANGUS, RobMc, FUNky and 3 others 1 4 1 Awards
Tw33tle_Dee Posted July 11, 2018 Member ID: 23628 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 344 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 232 Achievement Points: 2327 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/26/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 20, 2024 Device: Android Posted July 11, 2018 I have the Mossberg 500, one of the few that has double extractors on the bolt as apposed to single one's that sometimes jam.
TheLastColdBeer Posted July 11, 2018 Member ID: 489 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 52 Topic Count: 553 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4745 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 6058 Achievement Points: 42053 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 18 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 23, 2024 Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Android Posted July 11, 2018 Mossberg 500 that I purchased new 37 years ago. Everything is in the gun safe. Illinois law is so draconian, if you did pull the trigger on an intruder, YOU would be in court for the rest of your life. I rely on a bag of baseballs & a Louisville slugger under the bed. Nobody is walking away from a beaning, then a finish swing w/a good piece of hickory. loaderXI, Painsponge, WeednFeed and 2 others 2 3 Awards
deerejon Posted July 11, 2018 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3714 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28467 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted July 11, 2018 13 hours ago, RANDALL said: deerejon, I also live in NJ. Are you familiar with the gun laws? Do I need some sort of permit? Yes....in NJ all you need is a federal gun license for rifles and shotguns. For handguns you need individual permits, so if I was you I'd get the fed lic. and put in for 2 permits for handguns. You dont need to go out and get a handgun but I think they are good for 12 months so it wont hurt to apply for that too. Go to your local police station and get the forms. You will need to get finger printed and they used to (when I got mine) do it at the station but I get finger printed a lot for the various other licenses I have and its now BIG business at a finger print center. Bullshit but.... YACCster, ANGUS, Spartacus and 1 other 3 1 Awards
deerejon Posted July 11, 2018 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3714 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28467 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted July 11, 2018 When you get yours gimme a holler....we can go do some skeet or trap. Get to know the gun and we'll get a "I met ya" badge too!! YACCster, ANGUS and RANDALL 3 Awards
LaRSin Posted July 11, 2018 Member ID: 45 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 981 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 9420 Content Per Day: 1.65 Reputation: 3730 Achievement Points: 68073 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 02/25/1951 Device: Windows Posted July 11, 2018 Just remember dead men can't testify against you ... YACCster, RobMc, baldie and 2 others 2 2 1 Awards
Labob Posted July 11, 2018 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted July 11, 2018 I'm not cleaning up the mess YACCster 1 Awards
ANGUS Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 2985 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1688 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 3056 Achievement Points: 20377 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 03:04 AM Birthday: 12/01/1966 Device: Android Posted July 12, 2018 13 hours ago, LaRSin said: Just remember dead men can't testify against you ... Also remember that when you shoot one make sure they fall in the house... Less legal issues that way : RobMc and YACCster 2 Awards
deerejon Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3714 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28467 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted July 12, 2018 9 hours ago, ANGU5 said: Also remember that when you shoot one make sure they fall in the house... Less legal issues that way : Or drag em in.... Better judged by 12 than carried by 6. ANGUS, baldie and Spartacus 2 1 Awards
ausimatador Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 383 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 398 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 294 Achievement Points: 4106 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 28, 2021 Birthday: 10/23/1948 Posted July 12, 2018 Im from Downunder..and you might not like my comments...well..Thats is just BULLSHIT all that defence stuff...it all scalate to that..defence..attack..bad people..bad area..defence again...NO GUNS MATE..JUST NO GUNS... JohnnyDos, RobMc, Unchileno and 2 others 2 1 2 Awards
BROMODROSYS Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 676 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 14 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 24 Achievement Points: 527 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 09/16/1958 Device: Windows Posted July 12, 2018 Three things to remember when the cops show up: 1. "I was in fear for my life" 2. "I didn't know what else I could do, had no choice" 3. "I wanna talk to my lawyer" When they ask why you shot him 6 times, you say "I couldn't find my reloads/spare magazine" ANGUS and RobMc 1 1 Awards
BROMODROSYS Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 676 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 14 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 24 Achievement Points: 527 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 09/16/1958 Device: Windows Posted July 12, 2018 Almost forgot, I own more than one Mossberg Cruiser package with long barrel, short barrel, full stock and pistol grip. Nothing has been more affordable or dependable. Even have one in Nitex stainless for the boat. Awards
MordBlack Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 1830 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 186 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 175 Achievement Points: 1970 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/24/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 08:46 AM Birthday: 10/29/1981 Device: Windows Posted July 12, 2018 I was told this would be a great Shotgun for Home defense https://www.cabelas.com/product/STANDARD-MFG-DP-SHOTGUN/2645521.uts?slotId=0 BoomSlang 1 Awards
ANGUS Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 2985 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1688 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 3056 Achievement Points: 20377 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 03:04 AM Birthday: 12/01/1966 Device: Android Posted July 12, 2018 53 minutes ago, deerejon said: Or drag em in.... Better judged by 12 than carried by 6. Amen... deerejon 1 Awards
ANGUS Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 2985 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1688 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 3056 Achievement Points: 20377 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 03:04 AM Birthday: 12/01/1966 Device: Android Posted July 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, ausimatador said: Im from Downunder..and you might not like my comments...well..Thats is just BULLSHIT all that defence stuff...it all scalate to that..defence..attack..bad people..bad area..defence again...NO GUNS MATE..JUST NO GUNS... No hate here.. But agree to disagree.. Better to have then have needed.. And I live in great neighborhood... baldie, TheLastColdBeer and ausimatador 3 Awards
ANGUS Posted July 12, 2018 Member ID: 2985 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1688 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 3056 Achievement Points: 20377 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 03:04 AM Birthday: 12/01/1966 Device: Android Posted July 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, BROMODROSYS said: Three things to remember when the cops show up: 1. "I was in fear for my life" 2. "I didn't know what else I could do, had no choice" 3. "I wanna talk to my lawyer" When they ask why you shot him 6 times, you say "I couldn't find my reloads/spare magazine" So true. Admit to nothing but was concerned for my life... And answer to God and a judge.. Awards
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