I want the MW2 ftag mod back!!!

[google]

I might move hardwired to tier 2. Looking into that today to see if there will be any issues or conflicts.

 

One of the things added to the perk was the enemy uav 'piggyback' ability that shows enemy positions when they fire. So the question is whether or not moving it would conflict with anything. I dont think so.

Thank you!

 

[ANGU5]

Just play the dam thing and quit whining... Get used to it try out for a while.. Thanks for something new and fresh...

[iboomboom]

Every time we change a mod, people hate it. Then in a month or two they get used to it and then start loving it. Remember when we replaced the ACR mod? Everybody hated the M16A, this and that and this that. Well suck it up buttercup.

 

I like the new mod, with all its goods and bads. Nobody likes things to change, as we are creature of habit and that's just that. It is a fantastic mod, with a lot of bells and whistles just keep playing... 

[WldPenguin]

The global spec works now thanks

[Sammy]

People originally hated the idea of the car defrosting. Now people love it. Most people anyways.

[Trailrtrash]

Fun is changing into frustration!!!!!!!

[Dukoo]

Quit whining / bitching and start playing ? 

 

if the active whiners stoped playing, there would be no one left for you kontelikkers to shoot at in the first place. 

it has nothing to do with bitching or whining. 

 

Yes, Things do change sometimes. T
his is the second time a mod change, it is not that much in the past years. 

It is not that bad! no its not, but there's a lot of stuff to work on, and sammy sure does understand that. 

And so do i, and other people that are saying i dont like it the way it is now... 

 

But that doenst mean they are whining or bitching. Its about speaking open about how the feel about it. 

It is giving sammy the chance to read the complains so things can be worked out togetter. 

 

some of u idiots must not and never forget that some of this whiners and bitchers are playing this mod for over 4,5,6 years. 

and they have all the right to say what ever they want.
just as much as you think you are free to call people whiners or baby's.

Most of you where still in dipers when they where already playing this mod.! Keep having respect for eachader u fucking idiots. We are all >XI< dont you ever forget that. We are a family, keep it like that please. 

[Trailrtrash]

Quit whining / bitching and start playing ? 

 

if the active whiners stoped playing, there would be no one left for you kontelikkers to shoot at in the first place. 

it has nothing to do with bitching or whining. 

 

Yes, Things do change sometimes. T

his is the second time a mod change, it is not that much in the past years. 

It is not that bad! no its not, but there's a lot of stuff to work on, and sammy sure does understand that. 

And so do i, and other people that are saying i dont like it the way it is now... 

 

But that doenst mean they are whining or bitching. Its about speaking open about how the feel about it. 

It is giving sammy the chance to read the complains so things can be worked out togetter. 

 

some of u idiots must not and never forget that some of this whiners and bitchers are playing this mod for over 4,5,6 years. 

and they have all the right to say what ever they want.

just as much as you think you are free to call people whiners or baby's.

 

Most of you where still in dipers when they where already playing this mod.! Keep having respect for eachader u fucking idiots. We are all >XI< dont you ever forget that. We are a family, keep it like that please. 

 

 

 

Thats true.

[Sammy]

The one change that seemed to get the most negative comments was where Hardwired was moved to. That will be moved to tier 2. I think its 2. It is late and I am tired so I get them mixed up. There are minor bugs being worked out.

 

Add something new, like Venom, and some will love it while others will hate it. The ones that hate it was usually the ones that get shot with it. And yes that will be fixed so that it will not work if shot through surfaces. The bullets will work normally but the poison will not. Or will have only a small chance. The original idea was that it was some kind of nerve agent. Venom sounds cooler tho.

 

Not everyone liked Duke either. But I think its great. Same with the mininuke. And on. Often the ones that hate it start using it effectively themselves, get kills, and like it.

[Blaze]

Its better in many ways than the old mod. A couple of bugs still need sorting out, having too many misses in can't miss situations.

[moonpie]

The one change that seemed to get the most negative comments was where Hardwired was moved to. That will be moved to tier 2. I think its 2. It is late and I am tired so I get them mixed up. There are minor bugs being worked out.

 

 

 

One of the H perks were in tier 1.  Not sure if that was hardwired or not.

[Sammy]

Hacker.

[moonpie]

Oh no, so moving this to tier 2 means i have to choose between hardline and hardwired? 

[Sammy]

See? I cant win.

[moonpie]

See? I cant win.

 

 

I've said since the beginning (early March) taht the only perks i use are Hardwire/Hacker/Hardline.  I didn't really say much about losing Hacker, since I still had Hardwire/Hardline.  Losing another will be tough.  Not sure what you mean when you say you can't win...but I may be missing some other thread?

 

If you mean you feel unappreciated then you shouldn't feel that way.  If it wasn't for your efforts then a great deal of clan fellowship would be gone....your work is a (read: the) big draw to this group of idiots.  I know I appreciate your efforts, as have other expressed this.  

 

If by "you can't win" you mean you cannot please everyone then remember what Bill Cosby used to say: "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone".

 

You certainly don't have to change anything for me.  I will still play the game.  That said, as I said in my first post on the other thread that you should save yourself a lot of headache by just let ppl pick any 3 they want. 

[Sammy]

No it just means its not possible to make everybody happy. If, say, I were to move Hacker to tier one then people who want both Hacker and Stopping Power wouldnt be happy..

 

Also dont want a top heavy tier 1 with 12 perks and the other two with 6 each. Anyways, since my #1 goal is the most fun, within the realm of game balance, then I will move things if they need to be. It should have lots of good options to choose from, based on what players want to try and do, but nothing that could be overpowered. Good Stealth package or good r&g package. But neither should be invincible and wanting both together should offer several compromises. Fighting enemies that have both isnt very fun.

 

I could make it so its a pot luck and you can choose whatever you want. But then you get overpowered combinations. Ghost, I think, does Greed. Which I think offers this. But their perks are much more varied and they have the 'pro' thing. However I dont know if the Greed idea causes more problems than has benefits. As far as the game is concerned.

 

All gets complicated, doesnt it?   

[moonpie]

No it just means its not possible to make everybody happy. If, say, I were to move Hacker to tier one then people who want both Hacker and Stopping Power wouldnt be happy..

 

Also dont want a top heavy tier 1 with 12 perks and the other two with 6 each. Anyways, since my #1 goal is the most fun, within the realm of game balance, then I will move things if they need to be. It should have lots of good options to choose from, based on what players want to try and do, but nothing that could be overpowered. Good Stealth package or good r&g package. But neither should be invincible and wanting both together should offer several compromises. Fighting enemies that have both isnt very fun.

 

I could make it so its a pot luck and you can choose whatever you want. But then you get overpowered combinations. Ghost, I think, does Greed. Which I think offers this. But their perks are much more varied and they have the 'pro' thing. However I dont know if the Greed idea causes more problems than has benefits. As far as the game is concerned.

 

All gets complicated, doesnt it? 

 

 

I certainly understand...I never used stopping power so I don't even know what tier it was in last time.    I would imagine that the "pick your own" perk set up would ultimately self-balance since many kills come from things other than guns.  Meaning, since you are limited to three you can't really stack the deck...you still have to pick a set of perks that support your playstyle. 

 

I do agree that someone that is invisible, avoids cars, and can avoid claymores could be a bit frustrating for folks....but they lose other things too (weaker guns, weaker explosives, etc..).  I am certainly happy with anything really, as long as I can choose Hardline...I fell in love with you the day you added that...haha.

[Sammy]

Also have to take into account that this is a hardcore server and people want their enemies to die when hit by a pea shooter to the foot. So stopping power or AP isnt needed unless everyone runs around with the ballistic vest. Which I do because I suck.

[iboomboom]

Armor Piercing

Hardline

Hardwired

 

Yeah baby!

[Sammy]

There you go. I would have to think about what that combination would do to balance. Offhand I dont know.

 

But I must be totally frank and say that an old problem, including $100 million dollar games, is that players want to totally dominate and game balance be damned. Developers, or I should say their masters, are the exact opposite. While EA and the rest have an extreme profit motive by nature I cannot. But I do want people to play the mod, have fun, and not fall into some obscure category.

[htobyC]

I myself have always used hacker\hardline (snatch & grab before hardline)\dead silence or hacker\stealth\dead silence. I always thought hacker (or bomb squad in the original) was a balance for players who didn't want to use the explosives but since you now have an inventory section what about moving light weight into the inventory section as an option for those who don't play with explosives and then putting hacker back into tier 1? It sorta makes sense that if you want to be light weight and run farther that you would give up something that would add more weight right?

[Sammy]

I thought, instead, if there was some kind of non-explosive inventory item I could do that doesnt involve more mod assets. Right now think its only the non-exp crossbow.

[htobyC]

Something I forgot to mention earlier is that while I was checking out some other servers to see some of the things they had done with different mods I was in one that when you used things like the RC car, Reaper, or Predator  you didn't turn invisible. When you wanted to use them you had to find a hiding place or you would get shot and loose it, and when you came out of it there was no spawn protection. I thought this might make the people who don't like the car as much feel better about it being in the game since you couldn't use it for an escape route if someone was after you and you would have to put more time into finding a good place to hide before using it. Just a thought.

 

as for inventory that's not an explosive how about a megaphone that let's you tell everyone on the server how lame someone is for using a tube? maybe in DUKE's voice?

[Sammy]

Mod already does that for streaks. Disabled for this server.

[iboomboom]

Something I forgot to mention earlier is that while I was checking out some other servers to see some of the things they had done with different mods I was in one that when you used things like the RC car, Reaper, or Predator  you didn't turn invisible. When you wanted to use them you had to find a hiding place or you would get shot and loose it, and when you came out of it there was no spawn protection. I thought this might make the people who don't like the car as much feel better about it being in the game since you couldn't use it for an escape route if someone was after you and you would have to put more time into finding a good place to hide before using it. Just a thought.

 

as for inventory that's not an explosive how about a megaphone that let's you tell everyone on the server how lame someone is for using a tube? maybe in DUKE's voice?

 

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