Voting to skip maps

[Sourtap]

So today we were playing one of the worst maps ever, random spawns, bad rendering etc. etc. There were 19 players playing whilst the complaining started so we asked for a vote. @iBrock completely ignored all of us, we called our own vote (9 voted to skip, 0 to not skip) and eventually left the server after we spent minutes trying to get his attention and he kept on playing, so he was not afk. Great adminning !  Then @PnBear came in and called a vote. Yes or No to skip. 8 votes for yes, 0 for not to skip, with the same amount of active players and around 8 people in spectator. 

So what are the requirements for a vote to be passed or not? I personally think the rule of 'being in a team to be able to vote' is pure horsecrap, since someone dislikes the map so bad, they go to spectator. If there are numerous of YES votes and 0 NO votes, and the map still does not get skipped, then why even ask the 'yes or no' question? We all know there are a bunch of players who don't use their mics and/or don't type in game (frequently).

Call me stupid but if I play a match and I score 9 goals, whilst the opponent scores 0, I think I have won, as it should be with the voting thingy. In the end, a bunch of players stayed spectating while a decent amount left the server cause we all (except the 0 no votes) wanted to change map but the vote got ignored the first time, and denied the second time. "GREAT" way to handle that.

 

 :thumb

[Totty]

You can only vote as a player, else you could be sat there eating lunch or smoking a bowl, or whatever you do rather than being committed to playing the game.

Also 2 maps can not be skipped consecutively.  Ie you can't skip the present map if the previous map was skipped.

I know it can be a pain, but the rules are there so that a line can be written in the sand.

If you want to have a valid vote, then join a team and  vote, if more than 50 % of active players vote skip , then we will skip.

So long as the previous map was not skipped. 

I hope that makes sense, and enjoy the game and our servers 

[PnBear]

So sourtap (stupid) you was in spec in the game, jumped on a team to vote then jumped right back off.

your vote did not count for crap. spectator votes do not count.

 

[LOCO]

Spectators are NOT allowed to vote and players are NOT allowed to call their own votes  unless the admin starts the vote  if the admin is not present then you can fend for yourself and go to spec to force the change  but not if a admin is present

Its very simple to vote

Player asks for a Vote (Please do not abuse this just cause you want to play the next map)

Votes only Allowed in First round (Do not ask for a Vote in the other rounds)

Admin calls vote

Players can now Vote YES once (Spectators NOT Allowed to Vote) (if player keeps putting Yes in chat it will not count cause your causing problems with the vote)

Once Admin gets the count the Admin will let you know if the Vote Failed or Passed (If it Fails dont complain just enjoy the map or comeback when map is over)

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by LOCO

[Sourtap]

2 hours ago, PnBear said:

So sourtap (stupid) you was in spec in the game, jumped on a team to vote then jumped right back off.

your vote did not count for crap. spectator votes do not count.

 

Because if I am on a team I can vote right? Or does it have to be a x amount of time that I am on the team? Nothing has been said about that.

All I am asking about is what makes a vote a vote. Admins ask for a yes or no. We get 9 yes to skip a map and 0 no to skip a map, in a 18/19 playerbase map with about 8 frustrated spectators. Yet, the map does not get skipped. 

@Totty Please do not talk to me like I am a new kiddo. I've been here for multiple years, and you just came in a few months ago. I know more about this clan and servers than you.

 

@PnBear I played the entire round before it, asked for the vote. I voted in spec, indeed. Had to be in a team, so I joined a team and voted. So why does that not count then? Please elaborate. Sounds like XI got their rules mixed up. I did exactly what your fellow admin/mod @Totty said to do, which was to join a team and cast my vote.
 

Also it is kind of suiting how the 'admin/mod' people are reacting to a sincere question about how things work in these servers. Love it  

 

Edit: @iBrock Not afk enough this time to give me the finger huh? 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Sourtap

[J3st3r]

!FU Sourtap lol You starting trouble again? Bad @Sourtap very bad. 

 

I think the point is that you actually have to be on a team and playing for your vote to count?

There needs to be a majority vote of the players Playing on the server. If there are 30 people on the server and 15 vote yes then the vote fails. Need 16 or more Yes votes for a Majority Vote.

Some of the problem is that Alot of people playing do not even vote.

 

If ya don't like a certain map please feel free to ask an admin to cast a vote. If the vote fails (Like it often does because People do not vote) and you don't want to play that particular map? just leave the server for a few minutes. Go watch a couple Youtube videos or Porn or do something constructive for a few minutes until the next map starts.  

 

[evo]

sour is starting to sound like my ex wife

 

[RobMc]

45 minutes ago, evo said:

sour is starting to sound like my ex wife

 

Did she love camping too??

[Sourtap]

6 hours ago, J3st3r said:

!FU Sourtap lol You starting trouble again? Bad @Sourtap very bad. 

 

I think the point is that you actually have to be on a team and playing for your vote to count?

There needs to be a majority vote of the players Playing on the server. If there are 30 people on the server and 15 vote yes then the vote fails. Need 16 or more Yes votes for a Majority Vote.

Some of the problem is that Alot of people playing do not even vote.

 

If ya don't like a certain map please feel free to ask an admin to cast a vote. If the vote fails (Like it often does because People do not vote) and you don't want to play that particular map? just leave the server for a few minutes. Go watch a couple Youtube videos or Porn or do something constructive for a few minutes until the next map starts.  

 

Well, this makes more sense. The 'yes or no' kinda struck me, if there is  nobody saying no, yet still getting skipped. I'll pass on the doing something constructive though

[Sammy]

Are you saying watching porn isnt constructive? Im not offering a 'yes' or 'no' and thus not voting. Just asking the question.

[Totty]

18 hours ago, Sourtap said:

Because if I am on a team I can vote right? Or does it have to be a x amount of time that I am on the team? Nothing has been said about that.

All I am asking about is what makes a vote a vote. Admins ask for a yes or no. We get 9 yes to skip a map and 0 no to skip a map, in a 18/19 playerbase map with about 8 frustrated spectators. Yet, the map does not get skipped. 

@Totty Please do not talk to me like I am a new kiddo. I've been here for multiple years, and you just came in a few months ago. I know more about this clan and servers than you

I don't want to burst your bubble, but this is the second time I have been an XI

The first time was a long time ago, before you joined

[Cheyenne]

Is there a difference in voting between server 1 and server 2 ?

[Timmah!]

45 minutes ago, Cheyenne said:

Is there a difference in voting between server 1 and server 2 ?

I'ma guess the amount of crying!

[BlackRose]

On 2/26/2023 at 5:45 PM, PnBear said:

So sourtap (stupid) you was in spec in the game, jumped on a team to vote then jumped right back off.

your vote did not count for crap. spectator votes do not count.

 

everyone in spec does that to get their vote in,,its done all the time

[BlackRose]

I think the admins should record in the forums maps that are continualy skipped so penguin does not put them into rotation. or not as often.

[LOCO]

we do know which ones but players complain on the good ones too

Edited February 28, 2023 by LOCO

[Sammy]

Unless I am mistaken, removing a map from someone elses rotation isnt done unless there is something actually wrong with it. Meaning buggy or glitchy. Not because some other players dont like it and make a fuss until they get appeased. Peace in our time. Rejoice.

The answer has always been that if you dont like it, make your own rotation and submit it. But perhaps times have changed and "dont like it, dont play it" has today become "dont like it, ensure nobody can play it".

Perhaps every potential rotation should first be posted in an open forum thread. Then debate and take a vote whether or not to add it, or alter it. Then there will be no need to hold in-game skip votes and it can be shut off, so to speak.  That should be fun.

[T-Rat]

We are different on Freeze Tag #1.

We do not have a voting system in place.

If a single XI member requests to play the map we will.

So, you could have ten non-XI  saying skip the map and only 1 XI member saying play it, we'll play it.

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers!

[Sammy]

To paraphrase Orwell. All players are equal but some players are more equal than others.

[Sourtap]

21 hours ago, Sammy said:

Unless I am mistaken, removing a map from someone elses rotation isnt done unless there is something actually wrong with it. Meaning buggy or glitchy. Not because some other players dont like it and make a fuss until they get appeased. Peace in our time. Rejoice.

The answer has always been that if you dont like it, make your own rotation and submit it. But perhaps times have changed and "dont like it, dont play it" has today become "dont like it, ensure nobody can play it".

Perhaps every potential rotation should first be posted in an open forum thread. Then debate and take a vote whether or not to add it, or alter it. Then there will be no need to hold in-game skip votes and it can be shut off, so to speak.  That should be fun.

The 'dont like it, dont play it' has been a thing for some time now. I got my own rotation which I submitted multiple times for the past 1 or 2 years. It got pulled up like 2 or 3 times, which is awesome. But the 'posting a rotation in an open forum thread' would be a good idea as well i think!

[P!nk]

On 2/27/2023 at 8:33 PM, Totty said:

I don't want to burst your bubble, but this is the second time I have been an XI

The first time was a long time ago, before you joined

I can’t recall your Name, did you had another name back then? 

[loaderXI]

38 minutes ago, P!nk said:

I can’t recall your Name, did you had another name back then? 

Same name @P!nk 

[Totty]

6 hours ago, P!nk said:

I can’t recall your Name, did you had another name back then? 

No, it was Totty, same as now.

 

[Totty]

7 hours ago, P!nk said:

I can’t recall your Name, did you had another name back then? 

I originally joined in 2009

I did play a few league TDMs for XI, but wasn't great 

I used to hang out on the early ftag server in Atlanta which had friendly fire on

T-Rat was one of my mentors along with sir Johnny Dos (RIP)

Edited March 1, 2023 by Totty

[RobMc]

3 hours ago, Totty said:

I originally joined in 2009

I did play a few league TDMs for XI, but wasn't great 

I used to hang out on the early ftag server in Atlanta which had friendly fire on

T-Rat was one of my mentors along with sir Johnny Dos (RIP)

Now  is 'Totty' from Totnes?, or does he like a 'Totty (drink) or is he a cross dresser like 'A bit of Totty (Female)'? perhaps a photo in your new frock could clear it up for us?

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